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Ed Hartouni

Trad climber

Livermore, CA

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:39pm PT

why would some poster here make up an avatar like JoeM?

Lituya

Mountain climber

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:41pm PT

Canada's immigration laws are far more selective/strict than ours. Maybe that's why they're not becoming a shithole?

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber

Wilds of New Mexico

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:43pm PT

Trumps remarks are no surprise, he is a racist piece of sh#t and always has been. What is shocking is that he thinks Norwegians are lining up to emigrate to the U.S. LOL!!!

JoeM

climber

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:47pm PT

Stonefly: besides just riding on the liberal bandwagon, tell us what makes a shithole country.
I'm not seeing much intelligent thought, truth be told.

stonefly

Social climber

Alameda, California

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:49pm PT

Read what I wrote. Open your mind. Listen.I'm going to bed, this whole conversation depresses me.

JoeM

climber

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:51pm PT

Stonefly: I thought so, no original thoughts, just name calling and riding the bandwagon.
Disappointing. :(

Mighty Hiker

climber

Outside the Asylum

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:56pm PT

It seems fair to guess that the government of Norway will put some effort into distancing itself from Mr. Trump's vulgarity, particularly as Prime Minister Solberg met with him on Wednesday. Ms. Solberg is leader of a moderately right wing (by world standards) party, which is therefore somewhat to the left of say the US Democratic Party. But her government probably wants as little association with Mr. Trump as possible. He's pretty much toxic to most politicians (and many others) outside the USA, as evidenced by his staff cancelling his trip to London to open the new USA embassy there. Pretty embarrassing, that your leader is virtually persona non grata in one of your oldest and closest allies.

Mr. Trump probably didn't care that the ancestors of most Norwegian-Americans, just like his ancestors, came to the USA because they were poor - although that has long changed.

The cover of Mr. Trump's home town paper Friday:

As for Ballo, CPorter and JoeM, well, let's just say that they need to work on their street cred as climbers.

Lituya

Mountain climber

Jan 11, 2018 - 09:59pm PT

Most liberals are incapable of original thought. Except the queen, of course. Try not to disrupt the hive.

Lituya

Mountain climber

Jan 11, 2018 - 10:03pm PT

Mr. Trump probably didn't care that the ancestors of most Norwegian-Americans, just like his ancestors, came to the USA because they were poor - although that has long changed.

Here, here! When you're awash in petro-cash and bathing the planet in North Sea oil you can afford to be a little smug, I suppose.

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Jan 11, 2018 - 11:08pm PT

Crikey, the dude is the president and he shouldn't be talking about Alabama and Texas that way.

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Jan 12, 2018 - 02:44am PT

If I lived in Norway I could afford to go out to eat out about once a month. I would also be fighting an uphill battle with the effects of sun deprivation.

jstan

climber

Jan 12, 2018 - 03:35am PT

https://twitter.com/ndula_victor/status/951710403570077696/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fworldviews%2Fwp%2F2018%2F01%2F11%2Fhere-is-what-my-shithole-looks-like-african-countries-and-haiti-react-to-trumps-remark%2F

JoeM

climber

Jan 12, 2018 - 04:09am PT

I am disappointed to see no original or persuasive thought in this thread. I see a lot of reference to the presidents color in a derogatory way. I thought the liberal mentality was color blind? Not surprised by many, but one of you I thought was above such unproductive nonsense.

not a trump supporter for the record. My life's not affected by the man that's elected. ( credit to avett bros maybe)

CPorter

Trad climber

London

Jan 12, 2018 - 04:56am PT

^Trooooooollllllllllllllll

JoeM

climber

Jan 12, 2018 - 05:50am PT

CPorter : Hmmm. More name calling and still no cogent thought. I'm starting to think you liberals are not as smart as you think. It is looking like blind hysteria to me.
Convince me otherwise.

Gary

Social climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Jan 12, 2018 - 05:52am PT

Jstan: has our transition to third world happened because the third world came to us?

No, JoeM, our transition to the third world, or actually second world status, began in the mid 1970s with the dismantling of the New Deal and the assault on labor.

It wasn't secret, you read about it in the business pages. Their idea was that workers made too much money if they could afford to send kids to school and buy houses. No, really, as unbelievable as that is. It really intensified under Reagan. The New Democrats were just as supportive. Bill Clinton fought tooth and nail for NAFTA, but when some of the old school Dems tried to pass the anti-scab Striker Replacement Bill, Clinton was off in Europe, couldn't, or wouldn't, be bothered to help there.

So we continue to descend into shithole status. And don't worry, no matter what the buffoon in the White House might say, third world immigration wil continue. It helps keep wages low.

JoeM

climber

Jan 12, 2018 - 06:11am PT

Gary:
Thank you for that thoughtful and well reasoned response. I can agree that the erosion of the labor(middle) class hastens the erosion of our world standing. Don't we all only have ourselves to blame for that? Our purchasing desiscions drive that trend?
Not to pick on Yvon, only an example, but wouldn't greater good be realized buy manufacturing his goods domestically with union labor? Or, like most corporations, is PG only interested in removing the most $ from the middle class as possible.
Again, only an example.