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xCon

Social climber
909
Sep 14, 2018 - 04:42pm PT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYwl1cOZ9jo
xCon

Social climber
909
Sep 15, 2018 - 07:51pm PT
Why We’re Voting “No” at UPS

While there are a lot of reasons to vote “no,” such as the inclusion of excessive overtime in the form of 70-hour workweeks during peak season, and no additional protections against harassment by management, the biggest issues are the union’s abandonment of the fight for $15 an hour and their push for two-tier wages for drivers.

the workers are bucking the union and have authorized a strike...

https://truthout.org/articles/why-were-voting-no-at-ups/
Lituya

Mountain climber
Sep 15, 2018 - 08:19pm PT
Make no mistake, UPS is trying to break the Teamsters. While UPS drivers make good money--$80-120k--they are certainly not treated with much dignity. A lot of this stems from computer-driven efficiencies e.g. minimizing left turns, backups, blah blah blah, beholden to euler circuits in place of a driver who knows and loves his customers. Fresh outta college supervisors who view human capital as nothing more than production quotas are a problem there too.

FedEx is non-union--and with regional non-union carriers expanding and Amazon utilizing non-traditional routes to final, the union is in a very precarious spot. That said, Teamsters still hold the power to decimate UPS and should not let that leverage fade into the night.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Sep 15, 2018 - 10:01pm PT
80 thou...bull sh#t...
Yury

Mountain climber
T.O.
Sep 16, 2018 - 10:24am PT
According to https://www.truckdriverssalary.com/ups-driver-salary/:

Seen on the highway, the freight OTR truckers for UPS earn $57,886.40 per year based off of user contributions on Glassdoor and Indeed.com for our 2018 update. That breaks down to $27.83 per hour.

According to the company, this is 34% higher than the national average for most OTR drivers. Our research shows that is not completely accurate as our industry average for 2018 is 66,711. However, for new drivers, this would be a big bump to their 1st year earnings.

Bonuses are not mentioned in this number.

Since the focus of our site is traditional OTR drivers, this is the number we use in our company rankings. But that number doesn’t tell the whole story if you are interested in driving local routes with UPS.

Consistent routes and exceptional pay is what’s offered to UPS drivers. While this data does not account for seasonal drivers, it does account for the full-time employee that gets to work regular shifts and routes



The brown trucks you see are referred to as “package cars.”

These drivers earn, on average, roughly $19.82 an hour.

While this figure comes out to $41,267.20 a year for a 40-hour work week, drivers can expect to work more than 8 hours a day, especially during the peak holiday season. The key to understanding the amount you can earn at UPS is that most drivers work overtime pay with 11 to 12 hour days common.

Overtime pay averages $45 an hour.

With that said, we think it is safe to add 35% to the total earnings ($12,380) for a package delivery driver for grand total of $53,647.36.
xCon

Social climber
909
Sep 16, 2018 - 11:01am PT
conservatives love to tell you

"we will have great jobs for everybody! right after we take them away from the last people who have them now..."
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Sep 16, 2018 - 01:47pm PT
Their other favorite line is if you raise minimum wages , businesses will go under...
xCon

Social climber
909
Sep 16, 2018 - 02:35pm PT
ending child labor sure did us in...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 16, 2018 - 02:46pm PT
Regarding road construction wages vs teachers’ - a sign holder could easily make $50/hr on a weekend with overtime. As usual you losers just want to split hairs rather than talk substantive issues. On top of that I am basically on yer side but yer too stoopid and to entwined in yer twisted knickers to realize it. The base pay for a gubmint Davis/Bacon road job sign holder is most certainly close to that of a elementary school teacher.
Lituya

Mountain climber
Sep 16, 2018 - 03:24pm PT
As usual you losers just want to split hairs rather than talk substantive issues.

Bingo. As above, I'm on their side e.g. UPS, but they're just too f@#$%&* wound up and dumb to read or understand.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Sep 16, 2018 - 04:21pm PT
I agree...xcon is a total looser....
xCon

Social climber
909
Sep 16, 2018 - 05:41pm PT
the substantial issues is accepting duel tier wages and how its little if not effectively shooting your kids in the face

not to mention the piss poor wages

those drivers deserve the 80k their not getting...
Yury

Mountain climber
T.O.
Sep 16, 2018 - 07:31pm PT
Guys, your situation down there is not that bad.

I do not understand why people are talking about teachers' salaries without specifying a state.
Some states pay better and some states pay worse salaries.

Bad Climber:
Here's an article with a VERY lively comment stream on teacher pay. The graphs are a little misleading, and a lot is based on "averages," which mislead as well. Anyway, worth a read if you're into this stuff.
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/no-public-school-teachers-are-not-underpaid
These graphs are definitely BS because they are "annualized" and "adjusted".
However I do not see anything wrong with using averages.
Averages can also tell a story like in my neck of the woods:
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/allan-richarz-ontarios-teachers-are-overpaid
"Toronto tells a similar tale, with secondary school teacher salaries averaging $87,000, followed closely by their elementary counterparts at $82,000. Add in benefits and the numbers clock in at a hair under $100,000 annually. For comparison, the median family income in Ontario is $75,000."

Salary (including benefits) is decent, but it depends only on their seniority and doesn't depend on their skills and efforts.
Bad teachers and good teachers with the same seniority are getting exactly the same salary.
There is no incentive for a teacher to work better and quite a few of them put just minimal efforts.

Moreover, parents typically can't chose a school for their children.

In this case we have a rigid government monopoly with unionized employees.
There is almost no feedback and very limited opportunity to make it better.

Salaries per se are not important. They would not make teachers better . Salaries should be supplemented by real feedback loops.
Down there you started implementing these feedback loops (charter schools, school vouchers etc.) and you have a good chance that your school system will be fixed.

However in my province quality of school education was deteriorating lately (and this quality decrease was even officially acknowledged by a provincial government) and all attempts to improve it by implementing feedback loops were broken by trade unions opposition and mass opposition by Liberal politicians.
xCon

Social climber
909
Sep 16, 2018 - 07:55pm PT
" all attempts to improve it by implementing feedback loops were broken by trade unions opposition and mass opposition by Liberal politicians."

to be expected when ALL your proposals involved destroying their hard won gains...
Yury

Mountain climber
T.O.
Sep 16, 2018 - 08:49pm PT
xCon, do you know what was attempted and failed here?
Based on your comnents I think not.

Getting rid of bad teachers and bad headmasters while promoting good teachers and good headmasters is an orthogonal dimension.
Lituya

Mountain climber
Sep 16, 2018 - 09:11pm PT
Private-sector unions - good (generally)
Public-sector unions - bad (always)
Power Crux

Social climber
is everyone in the car a us citizen?
Sep 16, 2018 - 10:47pm PT
if old man reilly is siding with the good guys then why is he always cupping trumps balls

?
xCon

Social climber
909
Sep 19, 2018 - 06:08am PT
Wharton's top professor says America should shorten the work day by 2 hours

In one experiment in Sweden, employees at a nursing home adopted a six-hour work day (with no change in pay), which resulted in improved productivity and worker health. Other research has also linked decreased productivity to an increase in the number of hours worked.


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/17/whartons-adam-grant-on-linkedin-6-hour-work-day-can-be-as-productive.html


those against are just afraid of their productivity being measured...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Sep 19, 2018 - 06:44am PT
After 6 hrs. the production slows down unless you're doing meth , in which case you're always at the dentist
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Sep 19, 2018 - 06:54am PT
I see a few people are still crying about the minimum wage not being a "living wage", should be "$15/hr", etc.

THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A 'LIVING WAGE'! GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL!

I don't think they will even hear me if I yell.
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