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Toe Jamb
Trad climber
CA
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Whenever Beth writes one of her mushy articles about her life you see a lot of replies, especially the filtered ones on her website, about how sweet, nice, and innocent she is and what a wonderful role model she is. I was just pointing out that after torturing and treating Tommy like dirt for over a year in 2007 and 2008 plus the things she conveniently leaves out of her articles she may not be the shining example she tries to portray herself as. I am certainly no saint and I am fully aware that relationships sometimes fall apart but she took it to an extreme in lying, cheating, and being downright mean and cold hearted. I may be old fashion but I would not consider what she did as normal adult actions in the real world. Take for example Tommy and Beth’s six week bouldering/climbing vacation to Rocklands South Africa in June/July 2008. You are half way around the world with your wife hanging out and climbing with a bunch of great friends enjoying some of best climbing in the world (see Andy Mann – Pro Blog 1,2,3,4,5). Two weeks into your vacation your wife stops climbing and starts hanging out at an internet café in a nearby town Clanwilliam (talking/texting with Randy back in the states). You come back after a full day of climbing with your friends and when you get to your room you see your wife on the bed sobbing. You walk over, put your arm around her, and softly ask what is wrong. Your wife then looks at you and says she misses her boyfriend. Ouch, and only after being away for two weeks. What makes this even more salacious is that Courtney Hemphill, Randy’s fiancé, is on this same trip with Tommy and Beth. So Beth is telling Tommy she misses Randy while his fiancé is just down the hallway. Take a look at Andy Mann – Pro Blog 4 and scroll down a ways and you will see a very haunting and creepy (some might say disgusting) photo of Beth giggling and making Apple Crisp deserts with Courtney knowing the whole time she is having a secret affair with her fiancé. Certainly not my kind of role model.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Damn.... Ouch....
But that's like 10 years ago right Tommy? You've moved on an have a kid (2?) with someone else?
You still kick ass... Let it go man....
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2019 - 10:39am PT
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So that's a bunch of creepy info I didn't know about. Ugh.
BAd
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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There should be a statute of limitations on allowing people their past transgressions. However, in this case, Beth chose to share her story with the public... and she conveniently omitted her own transgressions.
A little contrition goes a long way.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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If cheating is what you need or have chosen to do to get out of an unhappy marriage - I've never seen it go any other way.
A completely classless post about ancient history that was obviously none of his business in the first place.
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Toe Jamb
Trad climber
CA
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A couple of thoughts. Yes, this was 10 years ago but Beth just brought it up, without the salacious details, in her 2017 article. She also recently wrote about the 2008 South African trip (see Beth Rodden Facebook sugar packet). In regards to Beth Rodden’s Local Hero article note that it was published September 1, 2008 which means she wrote it in early August 2008 just after returning from the South African trip and two month prior to telling Tommy about her affair. So Beth is romantically hiking (and likely sleeping) with Randy in Yosemite immediately after her return while Tommy has been sluffed off to Colorado so she can have time to think about her life (note that there is an editorial timeline blunder in Tommy’s book The Push in that the two month separation could only have occurred AFTER the South African trip and not before). This is also the time that she told Tommy that she was not going to be calling or talking to Randy. Yes this was a long time ago but I do not believe that Beth has every come clean of what she really did and I do not believe she has ever said she was ever sorry or ashamed for all the people she hurt. She seems to think this is acceptable behavior as long as it justifies her feminine independence.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Maybe it wasn't mentioned because it's nobody's fuking business.
Has Tommy approved of your posts? I highly doubt it. I would be pretty disgusted and upset myself to have this aired if it involved me in any way.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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. Yes this was a long time ago but I do not believe that Beth has every come clean of what she really did and I do not believe she has ever said she was ever sorry or ashamed for all the people she hurt. She seems to think this is acceptable behavior as long as it justifies her feminine independence.
We all die dirty in some aspects. Their relationship never seemed to be a real healthy one from the outside view at least. That doesn't justify what she did but even good people are complicated and sometimes even cruel.
I doubt many even remember who Beth was as she seems to have moved on with motherhood and whatnot. I doubt she's visible enough to be the role model you might think. May you find peace with your own life.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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I hope that you can move past all this.
That you can be happy after more time
take away something good from a sad episode
see the best in what is sad
passion is what happens.
A mix of powerful emotions
accept what happened.
Look away to see happiness
so to be ready when Providence shines on you
find some solace and can place the pain
in a place that allows you too, to move on.
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Toe Jamb
Trad climber
CA
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To be fair, Beth, Tommy, Randy, and Becca have all seem to have gotten over and moved on over what Beth and Randy did in 2008. I can not imagine going on vacations with my ex-wife and her husband knowing they had a sexual affair behind my back for six months. Tommy is certainly a much bigger and more forgiving person than me. However, Beth in her November 2018 article Rebuilding Your Climbing Life After Losing a Partner seems to imply there are still some hard feelings and that it was only recently that Beth and Tommy actual did a roped climb together. FEAR may be correct that Beth’s role model as a climber has probably played out and forgotten by the younger climbers and she is now relegated to writing about her nipples and how to make almond milk. I do have to commend Beth for all her articles on climbing while pregnant which has not likely ever been covered.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Toe Jamb = Cortenay?
Pretty sure Toe Jamb has never climbed 14c trad.
Move on with your life. No primates are 100% monogamous.
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brotherbbock
climber
So-Cal
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How do you know all this info Toe Jam?
EDIT:
I'm glad no one is spraying online about the stupid sh!t I did 10-15 years ago.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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especially the filtered ones on her website, about how sweet, nice, and innocent she is and what a wonderful role model she is.
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What amazes me is that adults living in the real world could still believe "Instagram Perfect" is anything but an idealized load of sh#t and that this is somehow a mark we are supposed to live up to and oh what a shame and a bummer when we can't because we should cause we're better than that cha cha cha.
We're all partially made and finished with claw hammers. That's just the way it is. Who really wants it otherwise?
That wasn't really airing "dirty" laundry. It was just laundry. You'll find much the same in most everyone's hamper. Congratulations.
Ain't it grand?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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We're all partially made and finished with claw hammers. -JL
Added to my list of favorite quotes.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2019 - 06:29am PT
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I'm kinda with Somebodyanybody on this one. It's gotta be rough living in the public eye.
BAd
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Bargainhunter
climber
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Yawn. What a lame soap opera. No one cares.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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We all reincarnate in this school of life again and again, as we each have hidden and open character defects, along with attachments and vain desires, which keep us tied to the cycle of deaths and rebirths. Only difference is, when you become even a little bit of a celebrity in any field, even for a brief time, your stuff becomes more public, albeit temporarily.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I never take sides in relationship issues...no one is privy to what goes on behind closed doors.
I don’t agree, however, that everyone who is cheated on deserves it...a lot do but certainly not all.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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I'm not sure why you think it is incumbent upon her to "come clean" in some kind of public sense, or have some ritual parade of self-shaming.
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The old hair suite syndrome. Or the Scarlet Letter. In my experience, the person posing on the high road has a closet full of skeletons, gay porn, S & M gadgets and drinks himself silly while watching FOX news and Cheers reruns. They're ain't no saints, amigos.
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