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Russ Walling
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2018 - 05:23pm PT
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Houston signs Gerrit Cole from the Pirates...
Rotation is stacked!
From Yahoo sports:
The World Series champion Astros add Cole, the former 19-game winner, to a rotation already armed with Justin Verlander, Dallas Keuchel, Lance McCullers Jr. and Charlie Morton.
Looks like rebuild time for the Pirates... maybe now McCutchen can go to SF??
Sunday: LA's Adrian Gonzalez goes to the Mets!
He will earn $21.5 million in 2018, with the Mets paying him the major league minimum of $545,000 and the Braves on the hook for the rest.
Monday: McCutchen goes to Giants!
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ms55401
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minneapolis, mn
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Jan 24, 2018 - 05:25pm PT
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HoF has been diluted by mediocre talent for years. Chipper Jones? Jesus Christ.
at least put in Charlie Hustle.
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Russ Walling
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2018 - 05:29pm PT
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I've been following it for years....
Most interesting takeaway of the HOF thing is all the old guys are anti PED... the new writers that are able to vote are voting for Bonds and Clemens at a 99% rate. So, they will get in as soon as enough old goats die off. The next wave of voters seem to not give a sh#t. That is sad.
Edit to add: Charlie Hustle FOR SURE. Biggest slight in the history of the game, if not all of sport.
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Russ Walling
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2018 - 05:46pm PT
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I did the guinea pig nuts thing for a while... did nothing for me.
As for greenies et al... the do not equate with steroids as far as physical advantage goes. Greenies will not make your 390ft fly ball go 406... your one hopper to the shortstop into a screaming liner, or your rapid recovery from injury that makes a lizard growing a new tail look like nothing.
Amphetamines were a big part of the game back when, no doubt. But the freakish power and record distorting attributed to steroids is unequaled, and not just in baseball.
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henny
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The Past
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Jan 24, 2018 - 05:52pm PT
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Hey Russ,
Too bad about the Cubs this year (2018), eh?
You did get some of your revised 2017 pre-WS predictions right last year, but you still missed a few.
For my part I'm not nearly as good at predicting so I won't venture any guesses. Had to get your goat (hahahha) with the Cubs condolences though.
PED fueled careers don't seem fair to those who made the HoF pre-era. At least to me. Seems kind of like chipping holds to do moves instead of using what's there. Rose is a different story.
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Russ Walling
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2018 - 05:56pm PT
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I've got my predictions in early this year it seems... third post! hahaha! We'll see how it goes.
Early prediction: Cubs and Yanks World Series. Red Sox close, Dodgers choke. Houston will have the WS hangover. Angels will make a run but fail again in Sept. Washington...pfffft, no winning culture there.
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henny
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The Past
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Jan 24, 2018 - 06:12pm PT
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Dodgers choking could happen, unfortunately. We'll see. I'll check your 2018 predictions average at the end of the season.
OK, wait. Cubs and Yanks, but no call on the winner? We need that for completeness.
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Russ Walling
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2018 - 06:12pm PT
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CUBS!!!!
w00t!!
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Reilly
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The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 24, 2018 - 08:06pm PT
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You really think the Cubbies’ pitching will be that much better?
FWIW, me mum would give me like 3 samolians BITD and I could take the bus to Wrigley,
buy a ticket, get a dog and a coke, watch Ernie & Co, and take the bus home!
Life was phukking sweet!
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 25, 2018 - 03:54am PT
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Keep Charlie Hustle where he is....forever.
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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 25, 2018 - 07:02am PT
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Keep Charlie Hustle where he is....forever.
Right on. He bet against his team.
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Russ Walling
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2018 - 09:11am PT
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Right on. He bet against his team.
Unproven... Betting on baseball, yes, but he has never been fingered for betting against the Reds
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henny
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The Past
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Jan 25, 2018 - 09:37am PT
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As a player it is pretty hard to overlook his copious achievements. From the perspective of player it's a joke he isn't in.
As a manager, meh. Had he not gotten into betting it would make things much simpler. Like a slam dunk.
I used to feel different. Being a Dodger fan the Reds were a royal PITA in the 70s. Hated Rose, and that whole crew. Guess I've mellowed over time. There is no doubt he was one hell of a player, and pre PED, which I still think matters.
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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 25, 2018 - 10:32am PT
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Unproven... Betting on baseball, yes, but he has never been fingered for betting against the Reds
Don't you wonder why Rose reached that agreement with Giamatti?
"Peter Edward Rose is hereby declared permanently ineligible in accordance with Major League Rule 21 and placed on the Ineligible List."
"Rose will conclude these proceedings before the commissioner without a hearing and the commissioner will not make any formal findings or determinations on any matter including without limitation the allegation that Peter Edward Rose bet on any major league baseball games.... Nothing in this agreement shall be deemed either an admission or denial by Peter Edward Rose of the allegation that he bet on any major league baseball game"
And you all don't think he was betting as a player? You think sometimes he didn't owe some bucks to the wise guys? "Hey, Charlie Hustle, dat's a real nice house youse got. It'd be a shame if sumtin' was to happen to it. It might be smart to strikeout against Jenkins tomorrow."
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Russ Walling
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from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2018 - 10:58am PT
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And you all don't think he was betting as a player?
I don't see anyone here disputing that.
Betting against the Reds is what you claimed. Let's see your proof.
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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 25, 2018 - 11:03am PT
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He was betting big time, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't bet against his team if he thought that was where the money was. And it's been shown he was into big time debt.
Every time he gets caught lying, he changes the story. I wouldn't trust the guy farther than I could throw him.
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Russ Walling
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from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2018 - 11:11am PT
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So you got nuthin'....
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little Z
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un cafetal en Naranjo
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Jan 25, 2018 - 11:42am PT
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Being a Dodger fan the Reds were a royal PITA in the 70s. Hated Rose, and that whole crew
Being a Reds fan the Dodgers were a royal PITA in the 70s. Hated Garvey, Cey and that whole crew
Henny, very magnamimous of you to be in Pete's corner now. I think he'll wind up in the HOF eventually, but unless he comes out with a full confession, and the commish grants him a pardon, it's going to be a posthumous award.
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Russ Walling
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2018 - 04:15pm PT
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Yelich goes to the BrewCrew for 4 prospects.... It's getting thin in Miami right about now
Lorenzo Cain goes from the Royals to the Brew Crew for 5 years and 80 Large
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donini
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Ouray, Colorado
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Jan 26, 2018 - 03:37am PT
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Does Rose remind anyone here of Trump or vice versa?
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