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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 07:23am PT
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says the person living in luxury, in Palm Springs..........of Washington
Yeah, it's a great sign and makes me so proud!. At least I don't live near the reactors!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:08am PT
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Last time I was in Yakima was 35 years ago, when it was more like Calexico than Palm Springs. 😝
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 11:26am PT
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This is for all you doubters and haters..........
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 16, 2017 - 11:29am PT
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My kid did part of his internship in Yakivegas three or so years ago. Lots of gunshot wounds, he tells me.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 16, 2017 - 11:38am PT
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Yakima must not know that Palm Springs is now referred to as the "Gay Oasis of the Southwest".
Just saying.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 12:02pm PT
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The sign was put up in 1987 and is privately owned. Not sure what the owner's intent was, but I can assure you Yakima ain't no Palm Springs, more like a sort of central valley of Washington. Having said that, it isn't a bad place to live as long as you aren't in the hood. I have a great house in the Yakima-Barge historic district and the neighborhood is really nice, lots of trees and unique homes.
I'll tell you Cali people about one thing we do have: an irrigation system that's independent of the domestic water supply. Water all you want, keep the lawn green and the trees happy for about $200/year. Traffic isn't an issue, although there might be 10 cars at a traffic light during rush hour. There is a homeless problem, there are gang problems, and there are lots of eastern Washington conservative farmers; you should hear these guys talk about Hispanics, although their livelihood depends on Hispanic labor.
Anyway, better than some places, worse than others. It's only an hour to the mountains, which is great. Friends have a cabin in Goose Prairie which is a wonderful jumping off point for the Goat Rocks and other places.
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David Knopp
Trad climber
CA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 02:38pm PT
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On the edge you gotta it right-there's a ton of the city is pretty damn sweet-my house looks out across a valley to a hillside of little pink houses that twinkle at night-i can feel the seabreeze float by my door.
Dingus-look me up when you're in town-i tried to yell at you at the Sports' Basement showing of that yosemite movie.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 16, 2017 - 04:24pm PT
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On the edge you gotta it right-there's a ton of the city is pretty damn sweet-my house looks out across a valley to a hillside of little pink houses that twinkle at night-i can feel the seabreeze float by my door.
My sentiments exactly. And almost our house exactly -- we're on a ridgetop, surrounded by forest, and yet just 20 minutes from the center of the city.
Seattle is a wonderful place to live. And, as ontheedge said about SF:
even at its worst [Seattle] is not even close to the poop hellhole described by some- like 99% of the city is completely awesome.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
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Yeah well, go on down to 'Rat City' for a different perspective. I lived in the Maple Leaf area near Northgate, then in Lake Forest Park, two blocks from the lake and loved it, but the commute to Kent for work, later to south Boeing Field was just killer. 30 minutes to Boeing in the morning then 1:15 hours getting home, just to travel 20 miles or so. I was dying. It's overcrowded, expensive, and has lost so much of the charm it used to have.
I understand the Eastlake Zoo tavern, the Blue Moon, the Rez, and other places still exist, but it used to be fun and they are rapidly dying. Seriously, if you get to Seattle do a tavern dive journey; ain't like it used to be, but still fun. I remember being in Ballard and seeing a large crowd; it was the King of Norway opening a bus station. Blew me away. Good times. And there's things like the Ogre.
My brother drove from Capitol Hill, across the Aurora Bridge and up Hwy 99 to our house in Maple Leaf, at night, totally drunk, in reverse cause the transmission died!!!! Seriously, he made it all the way. Damn. This was a 1969 Chevy Impala that we had painted with multicolored crossways stripes; we called it the PopsicleŽ Car, so it wasn't a sort of machine to just blend in. True story: after it died another brother was visiting from Denver so we, for some reason mostly involving beer and to see what it was like, broke all the windows out with hammers, removed the plates, pushed the car to 15th Avenue and then coasted it down the hill to a grocery store parking lot. My brother (the reverse driving guy) started the engine, placed a cinder block on the throttle to give it gas and jumped out, only to remember he had left his keys in the ignition! He jumped back in, turned it off and pulled his keys out. The damn thing kept running, engine screaming, sparks started shooting out the exhaust, and the thing went ballistic. It was GREAT!!! I saw a couple of kids pushing it down the street a few days later. Hope they had fun with it. My brother was a pretty hot DJ on KISW and KZOK and had a VW bug that was a giveaway in a station contest: big sticker on the back saying 'Honk if You're Jesus'.
That's the Seattle I remember and love. Still good stuff, just too crowded.
We had an alley behind the Maple Leaf house, so for the 4th of July I had a brother in Alabama ship me a 20 packages of bottle rockets (20 X 144 = 2880 f*#king bottle rockets for god's sake). Got a garbage can and loaded it with 5 gross (720 bottle rockets), added a splash of gunpowder (FFF) then threw a match in. Damn, those suckers just shot out of there!!! Amazing sight. To be repeated a number of times. And this was in a downtown Seattle neighborhood.
We'd be arrested for terrorism nowadays.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 16, 2017 - 06:44pm PT
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Yeah well, go on down to 'Rat City' for a different perspective.
We go to Rat City all the time. It ain't what it used to be. Gettin' gentrified. Still not the most upscale neighborhood in the greater Seattle area, but if I were moving here now and looking for a place to buy...
And, like you, we lived in Maple leaf for a while, and liked it.
But you really need to come back for a visit (seriously. I'll open my cellar to you). The wonderful things you remember -- like the dive bars you listed -- are either gone, or you wouldn't like them now. But there are new wonderful things. That's the way of cities. Nothing stays the same, and to staple your feelings about a city to a particular point in time is to guarantee unhappiness.
And regarding the commute: Yes, commuting in [insert hated big city] sucks. For most people. But if you think about the path from home to work and back before you choose your home, you can considerably reduce the aggravation.
Or, you can get a bicycle.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 16, 2017 - 07:00pm PT
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Bicycle...? I want the Popsicle car with the cinder block...
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:12pm PT
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Hey Ghost, just whining. I really liked Maple Leaf and lived there for 18 years; used to frequent the Reservoir Tavern. We'd take the old guy across the alley, Vic, down to the Spot 2 Tavern on 15th and get him drunk on MD 20-20. His wife Esther used to get really pissed at us. What the hell, the guy was 80 years old and he deserved a time with the guys. He used to piss in a jar in his garage.
rj. It's yours for $50k, a collectors item.
Edited to add: Writing about this just brought back so many great memories and so much fun. I remember working on my Formula Ford race car in the garage and hearing Mount St. Helens erupt........... Writing this stuff made me call my brother who still lives on the west side and share memories. Golden.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 10:29pm PT
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Wino, lived on Green Lake BITD. I bet nobody skinny dips there any more.
Eastlake Zoo? Lived two blocks from it. Did some serious swilling there
which often led to skinny dipping in Lake Union. Used to go up to the
Volunteer Park Water Tower and do laps around it in the rain in my double
boots with a pack on. Oh, and then there was going up to Phinney Ridge
and schussing down the hills and seeing how much air we could get with
our cars off the bumps at the intersections! Just like Bullitt!
Those were the days!
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Carson City, NV
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Dec 17, 2017 - 09:58am PT
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So, it sounds like the SPCA has too much money. Who donates to them? I find the organization too top heavy and I despise their slanderous methods. This robocop thing just confirms my opinions.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2017 - 11:44am PT
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SPCA is a sanctimonious and elitist group that invaded the Mission District, harassing and driving off the area's homeless residents with a robotic security droid named R2-FU.
The SPCA's behavior were so heinous, so despicable, Ed Lee's heart gave out. The compassionate SF Mayor's final request was a new law to help the homeless.
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