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guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 13, 2017 - 10:59am PT
Off white for the HUGE win.....

very nice.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 13, 2017 - 11:21am PT
When we bought our 5-acre "ranchette" back in 91, the ad didn't mention the abundant basalt outcrops & small cliffs, the spring creek, or the waterfall.





It had been on the depressed real estate market for a while, since "white-trash" were living in the trashy farmhouse & the property was also full of trash & weeds.

The real mistake was not bull-dozing the house, but at the time it was un-thinkable for us to destroy a perfectly good house, when we could instead remodel it. It's comfortable now, but it ain't going to be in Sunset Magazine anytime soon.


AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Dec 13, 2017 - 11:47am PT
I will take a so so house in a great location before a great house in a lousy location
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 13, 2017 - 12:36pm PT
I went for a bulldoze-able house, the last '60s un-touched slab built raised ranch, but in a 7 figure neighborhood, basically raw value of the land, was equal to what it would cost to remove the remains, even if the burn was donated to the VFD . . .





https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/topic/109584575/mosher-cliff-for-sale

NEVER MIND
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oh holy crap, ! Where is that a Chalet,V V V V ? !
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 13, 2017 - 01:15pm PT
I was serious about buying this joint in Colorado but The Wife said "JAMAIS!"

I figured it was also burglar proof unless they had Bill Forrest's plastic nuts.
ec

climber
ca
Dec 13, 2017 - 01:55pm PT
‘Never thought a cliff could be used as currency...

 ec
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2017 - 02:53pm PT
Clint, that's gotta be one of the best in the country. I mean it is Pinns, right? :)


Clink, not so good on the cave. I got some stuff organized so there is more space now. But putting boards on walls has lost traction as we go into winter and the garage gets colder.

Come up and manage! Beer fridge is in.
steve s

Trad climber
eldo
Dec 13, 2017 - 06:37pm PT

Does this work? From my casa in Eldo to the base of the Bastille is a 5 minute walk, 2 minutes by bike. About 7 minutes to base of Redgaurden wall and Naked Edge etc. It’s actually faster to walk in then drive. Pretty killer to have Eldo as my back yard. Dirt road, expensive shack... it’s not for everyone. Picture shows last pitch of Naked edge and Divingboard. And a full moon. Cheers
mike a.

Sport climber
ca
Dec 13, 2017 - 09:30pm PT
I bought a house with lots of cliffs, I have the whole Southern Yosemite to myself!!! love living in Oakhurst!!!
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Dec 13, 2017 - 09:44pm PT
Just build a moonboard!
John M

climber
Dec 13, 2017 - 09:55pm PT

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/19233136_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/37.655608,-119.703599,37.63923,-119.733425_rect/14_zm/



Yosemite West. Inside the park. 15 minutes to the valley.

Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 13, 2017 - 10:10pm PT
$898,000.00! What does a hotel room in Yosemite cost per night?

It seems like you could spend a lifetime of nights in a Yosemite hotel, for what that place, plus property tax, plus upkeep, would cost.
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Dec 13, 2017 - 10:13pm PT
I am trying to talk my wife into buying this as a second home.
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Lone-Pine-CA/18880587_zpid/29218_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/36.908999,-117.920723,36.262822,-118.423348_rect/10_zm/?
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2017 - 10:24pm PT
Kalen, I got ya covered. you buy the LED xmas lights drill the holes. You just have to move fast as it flickers!


guyman, any luck finding it?


Some great posts.


That Bama Hills spot looks pretty dern nice!


Yeah, Yosemite West, for that much to deal with that traffic in summer, you'd have to love living in Yosemite. Lot of reasons to love it.



John M

climber
Dec 13, 2017 - 11:05pm PT
you have to figure out how to avoid the traffic. Travel early or late. For 4 months it sucks, but the rest of the year it isn't that much of a problem, except on some saturdays. It sucks getting into and out of the park on weekends if you want to do things out of the park, but mostly you try to leave the park midweek. It didn't bother me because I only left the park once a week to go shopping. I will say that the last 15 years or so it has gotten significantly worse. The thing about living in the park is that you are inside the park already, so that is more then half the traffic issue. If you head out for climbing early, then parking usually isn't that much of an issue. but don't try to move to a different spot. You learn to ride the shuttles. The 90s were pretty darn good to live in the park. I left 4 years ago after 24 years in Wawona.

Fritz, the lodge is 400+ a night from spring to fall. If you can get a room. It has mediocre rooms and you are stuck eating in concession restaurants. Not too bad for a few nights, but we are talking about living in a place. So your 9000 dollars a year property tax would only get you 20 nights a summer or so. And at the end you would have no investment. Just memories. A place like that one in Yosemite West rents for between 400 and 600 a night. I don't know how many nights a year one could expect to keep it rented if you owned it. Friends in Wawona say they about break even renting their cabin through Redwoods cabin rentals, but Redwoods take a 40 percent cut. Plus they charge for a lot of the services they provide, like filling your propane tanks on your gas grill. Friends of mine in Wawona rent their cabin through AirBnB. I believe for 400 a night, with $150 cleaning fee. And they clean it, so they keep the whole 400, minus county taxes. But then they live next door to it and own it outright. So its not that hard to deal with issues such as things breaking, and they have no mortgage to pay.

When I first moved to Wawona in 1990, a 3 bedroom house came on the market for 235,000 dollars. I went to look at it to buy it. It sold in less then 24 hours for the asking price. Today it would market for close to 750,000. Its crazy inside the park.

Here you go Fritz.. in Wawona. Only $329,000

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/2094746522_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/37.550685,-119.629848,37.533705,-119.659717_rect/14_zm/


Edit: forget everything I said above. That was nostalgia speaking. The traffic flat out sucks. LOL.. But I still miss Wawona.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Dec 14, 2017 - 06:21am PT
"Gunks Guy, You Gno ME? I had the place at the End of Springtown Rd"

I might know you; do I owe you money?

We looked at a property at the end of Cragswood Road 20 years ago. But it abutted preserve and had other building issues. Had a nice one pitch crag right behind the property, between sun bowl and that other crag with some good short routes on it.

We own some property on Sparkling Ridge Road. Had full-on plans to build a nice cabin but the kids grew, got more expensive and then went to college. And the main areas in the Gunks have become untenable on weekends for me. Not so enamored with the place anymore. We'll probably sell the property in the next five to ten years and move to San Diego. Pacific Beach is calling my name.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 14, 2017 - 06:52am PT
No Gunkie, I got 1/2 the deposit back on the LBI house, just down from the Acme on the ocean ,at the end of Jerome, bad surf report, the better break is up by the cause-way by Harvey Cedars. . where were we? oh useless county real estate,
Im sorry
I mean it, really, I am sorry I ever owned anything there. I had hoped to age and enjoy the place but was done when the stations went in. I was looking forward to using them, but they turned out to be the harbinger of the end of my 30 yrs in the Gunks.. The addition of un-necessary bolted anchors changed things , intrinsically'

Bringing - it all - down to a lower level.
That lower level;
of risk/ vulnerability, commitment needed to participate,
led to swelling the crowds waiting at the base of walls, many not climbing. climbing in crowds made it no fun. Then to it all became much more of a walk. & the way that some of the properties are,?
that place is a sink-hole.( Did they ever evict the women with the puppy-mill from the hart of Clove Valley?)Chamilliel!?
We Left When The bolts Started going in, grabbed at a spike in a spring market, had a hard time deciding between Mass & Ct.for close rock,
Farley in 20 minutes or The Gunks in an an hour, hard to know which was the better? Then I found That perfect mix with lots of rock, so Ct, less than 1 hour from NYC and the same 60 miles to the white cliffs
I was happy when I could close My accounts in Emty Bank.

Cragswood Road! standing facing up hill at the end of the road,So the Marks property, That Drive way of which some do not speak, is on your left, the trail on your right leads towards Porteouse(?) lane and another great climbing zone I knew by the old, original owners name,The "Ws" next to the ("Conglomerate"(w/ Bruce & Elaine?)

I wonder? I buried a dog under the twin cracks that split the steepest short alcoe, the rock platform is the headstone, for a Goofey Newfie; Boulder (dog). is it that WALL? original sticky rubber shoe/And a beer production, With
dave Lahnman








The major developers of Cragswood road; Joe And Sheri (?)
? forget the last name - maybe?-
We were excellent neighbors, equally helpful in anyway we could be.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2017 - 11:49am PT
Petch, nice proximity!


Off white, the classic example is your place. :)


John M. - good points.





I always liked the places in Bishop that had streams (irrigation?) running through their yards. Almost as good as a cliff.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 14, 2017 - 02:12pm PT
Saw this place last summer. Sadly, it wasn’t on the market.

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
A buyer's realtor is great.

A seller's, not so much. Hence Zillow. Disruption of the elastic margin.

what we need is a Zillow for climbers. or a filter function...

"Does the home require a boulder that overhangs on all sides?"

"Does the home require a slab with desperate runouts?"

"Does the home require sandstone with overhanging offwidth?"

Of course the filter could select for height of the crag.
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