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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 8, 2017 - 08:28am PT
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No 2018 sport abalone diving in Northern California per California Fish & Game decision yesterday . What's Trump done to us now ?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I’m sure the abalone are happy. As a kid I could go down to the cove beach at Corona del Mar and score 8 inchers by just walking around in thigh deep water and feeling under the rocks. Those were the days!
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Climberdude
Trad climber
Clovis, CA
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No Trump involved. This has been a long time coming. Overharvesting over the years and pollution have been reducing the allowable areas for taking abs over the years. It gives the abs a break to re-populate, if that is possible.
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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2017 - 09:28am PT
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Everything used to be Obama's fault & now it's Trumps. The Twenty-eighth Amendment says buck stops there .
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Won't stop the poaching which is a big problem thanks to high prices in the black market. :(
I think this is true for a lot of property crimes. I favor much stronger penalties: Confiscation of boat and auto used in commission of crime, for example.
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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I think it will help stop the poaching because now if anyone is snorkeling in the water with a tube, it will draw the attention of CDFW. Before they had to either do a sting or constantly do surveillance on suspicious divers.
It will definitely hurt the local coastal economies here in Sonoma and Mendocino.
I love me some abalone but boy it sure is sketchy to dive for them.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Trump wouldn't approve of a ban, he's all for rape and pillage. Abalone have become increasingly scarce and need restriction if they are to survive, or at best to allow a harvest. When I was a kid we used to go over north of Jenner at low tide and, waist deep, pry them off the rocks with a tire iron.
Incidentally, I had a "squid steak", just a slab of Humboldt squid, breaded and fried abalone style and it was very similar. And there was lots of it! And if you live down there, it's cheap.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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I've always said there otter be a law.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Abaloneee Farm Aid
Blue Oyster cult headline ing.
Arellano-Felix used to 'own ' the Baja trade
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Let the otters and the abalone wage their ancient dance. Abalone divers can find something else to do...first world problem if ever there was one.
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gruzzy
Social climber
socal
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Hip hip hooray for Trump if it's true! (Never thought I'd say that). I'm sure I didnt
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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Great, now only the criminals will have abalone...
Don't they know regulating something NEVER works? ;)
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Absolutely untrue. In 1900 the whitetail deer population in the US was estimated ro be 500,000. Hunting regulations have allowed the population to rebound to over 15,000,000.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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But most of those are immigrants from Canada, Jim. :0)
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jim is correct. Antelope numbers have rebounded, too. I understand the white tails are up to "pest" levels in many areas.
Poachers are a huge problem with the abalone. I have a good friend who testified to get some scumbags prosecuted.
BAd
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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BAd...I think the deer would argue that the suburbanites are the pests.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Abalone reproduce through proximity insemination which is why Trump has become a champion of the Abalone.
I remember throwing out Abalone because of freezer burn in the 70's. Regulations would have saved the fisheries in Southern California.
As it is, the future of lone, isolated Abalone is to live out their lives trifling out their semen on their way to extinction- again Trump can empathize...
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Withering foot disease, kelp loss, poaching. Abalone decline is in part, a consequence of things that will affect us all.
So go the otters and polar bears, but they are more cute. Maybe we'll care more about those.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Donini, though I also side with the deer, in my old home state of VA the deer population is huge. Without many mountain lions (I say many because we once tracked one in the snow years ago) and other natural predators there a ton of them. During hunting season when they are spooked out of the woods, it is like bolling for deer. With cars.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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WTF? Deer eat abalone?
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