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10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Dec 21, 2017 - 08:07am PT
I got a Christmas card from my congressman Dana Rohrabacher. That's a first. He must be running scared.

he's a nut, but he did vote against the tax bill.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 21, 2017 - 08:08am PT
We’re so much better off now that the threshold for the estate tax has been raised.

I’m happy that my tax dollars will be able to subsidize the Jared Kushners of the world, rich kids born into rich families, who will be able to live lavish, idle lives, tax free. I’m happy we’ve taken another huuuge step towards subsidizing an aristocracy. Good job.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 21, 2017 - 08:17am PT
Oh, and our MAGA Man will benefit nicely from this tax bill. Meanwhile, our debt will balloon, the arctic will be drilled, and health care premiums will likely rise because of the repeal of the individual mandate.

But trump wins. Bless him. As long as we are sucking his dick we might as well swallow too.


Again, good job republicans.

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Dec 21, 2017 - 08:51am PT
Donald Trump easily won West Virginia with 68.7% of the vote, giving him his largest margin of victory in the country.

What does that prove?

The people of West Virginia have the lowest average education in the USA, and they are amongst the poorest and the most obese in the USA.

So it proves that Trump supporters are stupid fat poor people.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 21, 2017 - 09:39am PT
California has WV beat in bad education and percentage of residents in poverty.

EDTI:

CA and WV are neck and neck for bad education:

http://isp.netscape.com/news/fte/statesrankedstudenttestscores/statesrankedstudenttestscores
monolith

climber
state of being
Dec 21, 2017 - 10:11am PT
Chaz, go by county and it becomes more clear.

Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 21, 2017 - 10:15am PT
he's a nut, but he did vote against the tax bill.

He's a nut, but Rohrabacher does vote to support funding for the Pacific Crest Trail.
monolith

climber
state of being
Dec 21, 2017 - 10:18am PT
Contrary votes are often allocated to help politicians for political reasons. If push came to shove, you can bet he would have voted yes.
Rexi

climber
Dec 21, 2017 - 11:35am PT
Well.. Despite Trumps/Nikki's letter notifying allied nations that the US would closely watch their votes today in terms of Jerusalem. Also giving a statement yesterday that nations who would not vote with the US would be cut of in money flow ( without further explaniations). Out of 193 nations, 9 voted with the US.

-so it seems that not all his tactics work out.

And just to be clear, i´m not going to talk about Palestine/Israel. My original comment on this thread an now the follow up is due to how shocked i am how he makes his arguments and makes decisions. For example, with money flow to different nations, reduce it, stop it. OK, but sending letters and giving those statements trying to coerce complience within the UN are very very weird tactics.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Dec 21, 2017 - 11:47am PT
T Hocking- I'll see you on the streets if El D#@&%e' makes his move☮️
zBrown

Ice climber
Dec 21, 2017 - 12:43pm PT
So it proves that Trump supporters are stupid fat poor people.

... and apparently heavy opi0id users.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 21, 2017 - 12:51pm PT
For example, with money flow to different nations, reduce it, stop it. OK, but sending letters and giving those statements trying to coerce complience within the UN are very very weird tactics

Why would you expect the U.S. Government to treat foreign countries - whether they support our interests or not - better than they treat our own states?

Money from Washington ALWAYS has strings attached. For example, states whose drinking age is under 21 get no Federal highway money.

I hope Trump is serious. Maybe your country will make up the difference, once U.S. money is cut off.

Besides, we're broke. I don't know if you saw this week's American news or not, but we have a king hell budget deficit, and it matters now.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 21, 2017 - 12:59pm PT
Chaz, as Orwell might say, "Republican deficits good! Democratic deficits bad!"

Sad!
Rexi

climber
Dec 21, 2017 - 01:18pm PT
Chaz

You are missing the point completely. I´m not arguing money here, "my country" as you state is not dependent on US money if that makes you at ease. But like i said i´m not arguing money.

I´m sad how poor debates are, how decision making is generally not data based or evidence based. It is not just Trump, many other politicians all over the world doing the same but he seems to be in the forefront of working this way. And the "threat letters" i mentioned is one example. and "cutting money" threats as well. I know nothing about that money that he mentioned but i would imagine that it is based on all sorts of agreements, contracts, mutual interests and so on. And to limit all those interest into one subject/votes in the UN seems very odd to me. But that is just one example of this we could find many many more.

-so I´m not going to comment more here, don´t like the way this conversation is heading and i´m pretty sure that we need to sit down with a cup of coffee to talk properly and make our arguments in a calm way with some more time to discuss further.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Dec 21, 2017 - 01:29pm PT
Trump has shocked the nation because he is Caligular.

For example, he appointed an old nag to a government post: Secretary of Education.


Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 21, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
Trump went one step further. Caligula never did appoint his horse consul.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Dec 21, 2017 - 02:29pm PT
But Caligula was known to favor prostitutes and golden showers.
originalpmac

Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
Dec 21, 2017 - 02:58pm PT
^^^ Boom. Mic drop.

Edit to add. Not trying to insult prostitutes. Would certainly rather hang out with some women working the worlds oldest profession then to have to read and hear about the current bag with which one dovches every day.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 21, 2017 - 03:15pm PT
For tRump, nothing beats a reach-around while Putin whispers sweet nothings in his ear.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Dec 21, 2017 - 03:28pm PT
Fascinating reading, even though it was written 7 years ago it has even more merit today.

https://www.sott.net/article/224670-Political-Ponerology-A-Science-on-The-Nature-of-Evil-adjusted-for-Political-Purposes#
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