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Dogtown.
Trad climber
Marshell islands atoll
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Jan 25, 2018 - 04:26pm PT
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Same old Supertopo I haven't missed much it looks like?
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WBraun
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Jan 25, 2018 - 04:30pm PT
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These forums are god damn echo chambers.
Everybody is always trying to be the benevolent moral authority on every subject by regurgitating last nights CNN segment.
Yep .... nothing but st00pid brainwashed idiot politards here like cattle eating grass outside the slaughterhouse.
Brainless idiots believing all that horsesh!t they are fed every day by that st00pid brainwashed controlled mainstream media ......
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 25, 2018 - 07:57pm PT
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jan 25, 2018 - 08:31pm PT
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The prez says he's not afraid to testify under oath but last June he ordered Mueller to be fired...So brave and confidant...
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jan 25, 2018 - 08:37pm PT
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RJ! I agree! There's nothing like Trump!
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 25, 2018 - 08:40pm PT
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 26, 2018 - 07:15am PT
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Gary, DEMOCRATIC governor(Gray Davis) and DEMOCRATIC legislature passed the law in the first place.
Jody, true enough, but as noted a Democratic governor is now on the side of cutting promised pensions.
I've already been through this with my baker's pension. Due to the greed of the owners of Hostess brands, who took a profitable company and ran it into the ground while lining their pockets, while at the same time screwing over workers and the owners of other bakeries in the system.
Don't count on your pension, Jody. They'll steal it and not think twice about it.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 26, 2018 - 08:02am PT
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 26, 2018 - 08:22am PT
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The individual tax reductions are measly and temporary, and only meant as a diversion from the congressional Republicans true aim of rewarding their wealthy benefactors.
The corporations have little intention of using their huge and permanent tax reductions for job creation (as the tax bill was touted by Republicans) and so to avoid blowback they create their own diversion of trumpeting their generous one-time bonuses to current employees.
And of course tools like Jody just lap it up and even go out and promote the benevolent generosity of our corporate overlords—idiots.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 26, 2018 - 08:29am PT
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No liberal is gripping about pensions, I wish everyone had one.
We are gripping about the hypocrisy of the conservatives that set the system up to fail, and are just saying too bad, you lose.
They should have put that money in "Lock Box" so it was there when the time came.
And the hypocrisy of the conservatives bashing public service/Government jobs, liberals have no problem with them and we think the rich should pay more in taxes to fund Government Jobs and programs
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 26, 2018 - 08:34am PT
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Restoring confidence in and respect for America WRONG
so we have another paid troll
with a list of Fascist propaganda
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 26, 2018 - 08:39am PT
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a BS answer for everything
and they should keep paying your pension, right?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 26, 2018 - 08:48am PT
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Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-trump-economy-20180126-story.html
The U.S. economy slowed at the end of last year, once again unable to sustain 3% growth for very long in a trend that has plagued the recovery from the Great Recession.
The 2.6% figure for the October-December period reported Friday by the Commerce Department — the first of three estimates in the coming weeks — was down from 3.2% in the previous quarter and below analyst expectations.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 26, 2018 - 08:56am PT
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St00pid looker has no clue.
CHP never used those dumb azz Streethawk lightbars in the above photo.
St00pid looker is an internet mental speculator troll with zero clues on anything .....
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jan 26, 2018 - 09:52am PT
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The pension money was spent already, Republican policies would not allow the money to be put in a lock box
the Dems are just trying to salvage what they can by restructuring pensions
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 26, 2018 - 10:33am PT
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Any contract is just a work order for a good lawyer.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Jan 26, 2018 - 11:05am PT
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"BTW, I paid plenty into my own retirement fund over 27 years."
PROVE IT, LIAR.
1. What percent of your pay went into this fund, each year of those 27 years?????
2. Did you backpay for all the years before 2001 when Gray Davis the corrupt moron RETROACTIVELY increased your pension 50% ?
No, I didn't think so.
3. Why were CHP pensions fine at a 2% per year formula for the previous many decades,
but suddenly in 2001 CHP deserved a 3% per year formula?
Answer: Corrupt ripoff by "fake" unions. (State & local government lobbyist gangs who have no opposition)
4. What percent of your CHP pay was deducted to go into OASDI, (Social security + SSI + Disability) compared to the 6.2% employee + 6.2% employer that everyone else in the country has to pay? (12.4% OASDI + 2.9% Medicare)? Or even what percent went into a separate state fund to pay the outrageously high number of state safety personnel who retire on disability? (Don't give me some standard fake union tripe about how Social Security pensions are the equivalent of Cal state/county/city pensions when we all know that for middle class seniors, Social security benefits are about 1/4 as generous.)
answer: ZERO.
http://www.governing.com/columns/public-money/FICA-free-lunch-crowd.html
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jan 26, 2018 - 11:30am PT
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Russians got tens of thousands of Americans to RSVP for their phony political events on Facebook
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Drain the swamp. HA.
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