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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I go off the grid quite a lot. Adds considerable organic material to the soil and, because I use natural implements instead of toilet paper, i qualify for leave no trace status.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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I bet you don’t live 365 within 30’ of where you and your family act like cats every day.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 02:11pm PT
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The selling point was the lack of smell. I need to see one in operation.
Does the Leave No Trace concept extend to skid marks?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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My cousin is a plumber for the city of Santa Monica...He's 7 foot tall and looks like Vlade Divac...His public works department installed a composting toilet ( litter box ) in one of its' facilities...
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Hi Jon
Lorenzo is correct; horizontal drilling is a good way to go and it is about $30 a lineal foot. It has become the cheap way to get a pipe in the street without repaving it. I design septic systems , gray water etc and sewers. A new way is to have a grinder pump and horizontally drill a shallow hole to the manhole ( if that is close enough ) you put 2 inch line so it is cheaper. A lot of people that have house below the street have to pump up like this. PM me if you want.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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2 inch line works for sewage..? rj
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Dec 7, 2017 - 08:22pm PT
2 inch line works for sewage..? rj
It does if you have a sewage pump. Think sink waste disposer.
I was afraid the city was going to make me connect to a sewer uphill from my house and I would have to pump. It was the closer sewer.
That was part of the negotiations with the city. My initial cost would have been about 5k cheaper, and they wouldn’t have had to open the street for 300’. I asked them to list the sewers in my neighborhood that they required that For main floor sewage.
There were none. Plus, I was already connected to the downhill sewer. I figured I’d rather have a gravity system.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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A lot of mains were replaced in LaCrescenta not long ago.
I'd like to ask them how it was done and who has the liability if something goes (went) wrong.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
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I talked to the city and they said punch-throughs are no longer permitted, so pushing a new line to the manhole is out of the question. Got one guy to look at the job, he is going to get me a number. Found a guy who did some work for a friend of mine, but he got stuck in the Lilac fire out by Fallbrook, he is looking at it tomorrow. Good news is the the Right of Way permit is going to cost less than a grand.
I am going to fix the junction and leave the rest of the line until it becomes an issue. Everyone I talked to said that it will last for years.
A lot of mains were replaced in LaCrescenta not long ago.
I wish they would replace my main, but there are no plans, they just repaved the road this year.
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