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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 7, 2017 - 10:48am PT
Crazy that in some industries they can drill and install pipe 10,000 feet below the surface, turn corners, go horizontal, etc.,

True... but even a 20 million dollar plain jane vertical drilling rig in nowhere Texas will burn ~15k/day.


Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 10:56am PT
Yes JLP, I think you are correct, this didn't just happen. I had a clogging issue 10 years ago, tenant flushing all sorts of goodies down. This time it was wads of baby wipes. Everyone got the memo so I think it will be fine.

For roots I discovered copper sulfate and rock salt. A regular diet flushed down late at night and allowed,to marinate for 12 hours will kill the roots. Funny that 4 months ago I cut down the source of the roots.


I abandoned the off grid idea but a am going to buy a composter to try it out.

As I typed this the 46k company called, had to resist telling him to FOAD
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Dec 7, 2017 - 12:49pm PT
I abandoned the off grid idea but a am going to buy a composter to try it out.
Dude - gross - those poor tenants are going to move, my wife would file for divorce. A flushing toilet is a fundamental and important part of modern civilization. Save crapping in a hole for camping. Those composting toilets are for the 3rd world, and they smell. You might also consider the unintended consequences of a lot less water flowing down that pipe to help clear things out on a regular basis.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 7, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
I go off the grid quite a lot. Adds considerable organic material to the soil and, because I use natural implements instead of toilet paper, i qualify for leave no trace status.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 7, 2017 - 02:00pm PT
I bet you don’t live 365 within 30’ of where you and your family act like cats every day.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 02:11pm PT
The selling point was the lack of smell. I need to see one in operation.

Does the Leave No Trace concept extend to skid marks?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 7, 2017 - 05:51pm PT
My cousin is a plumber for the city of Santa Monica...He's 7 foot tall and looks like Vlade Divac...His public works department installed a composting toilet ( litter box ) in one of its' facilities...
PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Dec 7, 2017 - 08:19pm PT
Hi Jon
Lorenzo is correct; horizontal drilling is a good way to go and it is about $30 a lineal foot. It has become the cheap way to get a pipe in the street without repaving it. I design septic systems , gray water etc and sewers. A new way is to have a grinder pump and horizontally drill a shallow hole to the manhole ( if that is close enough ) you put 2 inch line so it is cheaper. A lot of people that have house below the street have to pump up like this. PM me if you want.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 7, 2017 - 08:22pm PT
2 inch line works for sewage..? rj
zBrown

Ice climber
Dec 7, 2017 - 08:41pm PT
When the schitt comes down
-Mick Jagger

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Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 8, 2017 - 04:49pm PT

Dec 7, 2017 - 08:22pm PT
2 inch line works for sewage..? rj

It does if you have a sewage pump. Think sink waste disposer.

I was afraid the city was going to make me connect to a sewer uphill from my house and I would have to pump. It was the closer sewer.

That was part of the negotiations with the city. My initial cost would have been about 5k cheaper, and they wouldn’t have had to open the street for 300’. I asked them to list the sewers in my neighborhood that they required that For main floor sewage.

There were none. Plus, I was already connected to the downhill sewer. I figured I’d rather have a gravity system.

zBrown

Ice climber
Dec 8, 2017 - 07:57pm PT
A lot of mains were replaced in LaCrescenta not long ago.

I'd like to ask them how it was done and who has the liability if something goes (went) wrong.

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
I talked to the city and they said punch-throughs are no longer permitted, so pushing a new line to the manhole is out of the question. Got one guy to look at the job, he is going to get me a number. Found a guy who did some work for a friend of mine, but he got stuck in the Lilac fire out by Fallbrook, he is looking at it tomorrow. Good news is the the Right of Way permit is going to cost less than a grand.

I am going to fix the junction and leave the rest of the line until it becomes an issue. Everyone I talked to said that it will last for years.

A lot of mains were replaced in LaCrescenta not long ago.

I wish they would replace my main, but there are no plans, they just repaved the road this year.
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