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crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Dec 5, 2017 - 05:45pm PT
This movie explains a lot about the great decision to boot the Russians


"Icarus is a 2017 documentary film by Bryan Fogel. It chronicles Fogel, an amateur cyclist exploring the option of doping to win an amateur cycling race, but happening upon a major international doping scandal when he asks for the help of Grigory Rodchenkov, the head of the Russian anti-doping laboratory."
Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Dec 5, 2017 - 07:03pm PT
If you maintain a healthy skepticism, is it really so bad to get some of your news from multiple sources, some of which might include the NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC? How about Mother Jones, The Intercept, Common Dreams, Politico, Slate, Salon, The Daily Beast, and Vox?

Or is it better to swallow whole the lies and conspiracy theories of Fox, RT, Sputnik, Fancy Bear, Breitbart, InfoWars, The Daily Caller, Facebook, Star (at the supermarket checkout), and a favorite religious text—the contemporary version of Baghdad Bob, Goebbels, Tokyo Rose, astrology, and fairy tales—and criticize others as stupid brainwashed politards?

SAD



http://www.motherjones.com/media/2017/12/a-perfect-storm-for-journalism/

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 5, 2017 - 08:04pm PT
Locker... Veterans Today says Chump was eating peanuts...rj
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 5, 2017 - 08:38pm PT
If you maintain a healthy skepticism, is it really so bad to get some of your news from multiple sources, some of which might include the NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC? How about Mother Jones, The Intercept, Common Dreams, Politico, Slate, Salon, The Daily Beast, and Vox?

Therin lies the problem with most people today, they can't think for themselves. They're trained to read and regurgitate regardless of common sense. The 24x7 news cycle has created a morass of mindless link-posters running from the blue end of the field to the red curious only what color jersey their fellow sheep might be wearing.

It is exhausting and likely quite impossible to find any unfiltered truth these days. The best bet is to try and find unedited raw footage (of speeches or events) and make up your own mind.

But Wapo/CNN/MSNBC/infowars? Common... you didn't really mean that now...




Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Dec 5, 2017 - 08:51pm PT
Yes I did.

I said:

If you maintain a healthy skepticism

And you reply:


Therin lies the problem with most people today, they can't think for themselves. They're trained to read and regurgitate regardless of common sense.

That sounds like regurgitation to me.

You’re a journalist? You know how media works? Do you think the journalists who risk their lives are opportunistic tools?

Corporations have too much control of the media, and much of the msm is often guilty of bias, ignorance, and restricting the reporting of things contrary to their interests. Then you have the ones listed in my second paragraph that just make sh;t up to suit their purposes.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 5, 2017 - 09:52pm PT
Serena Williams, world's top tennis player, is taking oxycodone and hydromorphone (opioids), prednisone, prednisolone, and methylprednisolone as well.

None of which are performance enhancing drugs.
Byran

climber
Half Dome Village
Dec 5, 2017 - 10:44pm PT
None of which are performance enhancing drugs.
Yeah but I hear she also drinks Gatorade which is proven to enhance athletic performance and recovery. I think they might even be sponsoring her!
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 6, 2017 - 01:22am PT
It's about systemic doping. Proven clean athletes will be able to compete under an international flag. I'm sure there is politics involved, but this seems to be about what it is about.

Pretty hard to be a clean athlete. A young woman I know was pursuing her dream to be a pro soccer player, so she decided to gain experience in Russia.

The trainers have all the players “vitamins” every day. When she tried to refuse them, they stood over her and made sure she swallowed..

When she came back she tested positive for steroids.
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Dec 6, 2017 - 02:00am PT
This decision is obviously completely politically driven. To bad for the Olympics and the worlds athletes. Because without Russian participation, it's not really the Olympics, without the largest country in the world 🌎. Now it's just a joke, and any medals brought home don't reflect the greatest athletes in the world. Sad for everyone, but most of all it reflects how pathetic and low we can stoop.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 6, 2017 - 09:31am PT
Doping sucks but the whole Olympic ‘business’ also sucks. It’s really just another scam run for the benefit of corrupt politicians and construction companies.
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Dec 6, 2017 - 10:05am PT
Agree, Reilly.

All commercial “sports” are just money makers. I don’t watch any. Once the money entered, the sport lost its soul.

Moose
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Dec 6, 2017 - 10:15am PT
All commercial “sports” are just money makers. I don’t watch any. Once the money entered, the sport lost its soul.

Totally agree. Allowing professional athletes and huge TV contracts into the games totally spoiled them for me.

And the whole nationalistic 'spirit' of the games sucks rat balls.

DMT
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 6, 2017 - 11:39am PT
I'm just totally accepting that Russia is, in fact guilty.

The shame of it all is that they have the best national anthem of all, and we won't hear it, even if we do tune in.
Alexey

climber
San Jose, CA
Dec 6, 2017 - 11:59am PT
Jaybro, you never told me that best national anthem for your is Russian. I will sing it for you in old version Soviet next time we meet [ I do not know the words in current version , they changed after USSR break apart] You have no chance to here it from 2018 Olympic games.
I am sorry for all Russian athletes, and hope Kremlin let them come without representing Russia
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 6, 2017 - 02:33pm PT
Bloody well time.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 6, 2017 - 06:28pm PT
Russia booted from the 2018 olympics..? Why is this news...They've always doped and will continue to dope and protest when they get caught...Read some blogs by athletes from other countries if you want a clear picture of Russian athletes cheating...
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Dec 6, 2017 - 06:49pm PT
Russia is out since they know the entire Peninsula will be fused glass right around Olympic time... duck and cover braj
WBraun

climber
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:04pm PT
Hahaha ......
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 7, 2017 - 05:52am PT
im not sure We, Yanks will be representing either

Better to go hunt Duck & Fish,

for free food


there is no cover . . .






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