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Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Dec 5, 2017 - 05:02pm PT
Thomas Fire 12/5/17
Thomas Fire 12/5/17
Credit: GeoMac
dfrost7

Social climber
Long Beach, Ca
Dec 5, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
Yes, Lizzie. Looking for word about Mike and Wendy. Hope they are untouched by this. Lots and lots of Patagonia / Lost Arrow people live right there. Can't believe how close the evac boundary is to 'gonia - Art City is in the evac area. Lots of prayers for all of them. My buddy Russell Erickson is right up the street from this mess. Love Ventura - hate to see this happen.
xCon

Social climber
909
Dec 5, 2017 - 06:04pm PT
from space

https://twitter.com/NASAEarth/status/938176131047612416/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fusa%2F412051-southern-california-fires%2F
zBrown

Ice climber
Dec 5, 2017 - 06:14pm PT

That Creek fire is right next door to the La Tuna fire area.
dfrost7

Social climber
Long Beach, Ca
Dec 5, 2017 - 08:35pm PT
Fascinating picture, @xCon
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 01:32pm PT
hey there, say ... oh my!!!

i have seen film clips and this is so awful... :O


note-- anastasia said her house was still there...
(i think there is much concern over friends though... )

she is okay, she is in texas...


wow, bluelens, oh my!

and everyone! i will read how things are going,
i just stopped by fast...

have more things to go do...



neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 01:34pm PT
hey there say, dfrost7 ... good to hear from you...

man oh man... yes, prayers for all, and for your friend...

:(


i have two family members that have places in the ventura
area... so far, i think they are okay...


and, an aunt, though she is in santa barbara...
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 01:37pm PT
hey there say, ... bluelens/laura...

as to this quote:

I would like to thank those who posted a few months ago re the Santa Rosa and Napa fires. Those testimonies were fresh in my mind. I quickly realized the need to leave before exit routes to the Ojai valley jammed with traffic. Sure enough five hours later only two roads out are open (down from four).

i have heard many say THIS has helped them too...


good you left...
we humans over-lap by sharing stories...
there is hope that what we share, may help others...


edit:
say on the facebook, a gal i new shared a link for the
ventura human society...

so we are sharing that, too...




UPDATE FROM HIGHTRAVERSE, in the fire thread...


Thomas Fire Incident Information:
Last Updated: December 06, 2017 11:46 am
Date/Time Started: December 04, 2017 6:28 pm
Administrative Unit: Unified Command: CAL FIRE, Ventura County Fire, City of Ventura, Los Padres National Forest, Ventura County Sheriff,
County: Ventura County
Location: Hwy 150 and Hwy 126, north of Santa Paula
Acres Burned - Containment: 65,000 acres
Structures Threatened: 12,000 structures threatened
Structures Destroyed: 150 structures
Evacuations: Evacuation Map
MANDATORY EVACUATIONS:
• City of Santa Paula - Boundary of Say Road north to Thomas Aquinas, Dickenson Ranch Road east to Santa Paula Creek
• City of Santa Paula - Boundary of Monte Vista Street north to city limits, Foothill Road from Steckel to Peck Road to north of city limits
• Santa Paula unincorporated area towards Ventura- North of Foothill Road from Peck Road to Wells Road including: Wheeler Canyon, Aliso Canyon and Rancho Vista
• City of Ventura - Teloma east to Brent Street, Telegraph Road north to north of Foothill Road
• City of Ventura - Victoria Road east to Hill Road, Telegraph Road north to Foothill Road
• City of Ventura - North Ashwood Avenue east to Hill Road, Telegraph Road north to Foothill Road
• City of Ventura - North of Foothill Road from Wells Road to Poli Street
• City of Ventura - North of Main Street from Seward Avenue to Hwy 33 (includes entire Ventura Avenue area)
• Oak View - Boundary of Hwy 33, Creek Road and Hermosa Road
• Entire Community of Casitas Springs - Evacuate to Ventura County Fairgrounds - 10 West Harbor Blvd., Ventura
• East Ojai Valley - Carne Road east to McAndrew Road, Reeves Road north to Thacher Road
• Upper Ojai Valley - Hwy 150 from Dennison Grade east to Osborne Road and all residences north
• Ventura County North Coast Area - Boundary of Hwy 33 on the north to Casitas Vista Road, northwest to Hwy 150, Hwy 150 (Casitas Pass Road) west to US 101 and south on US 101 (including Pacific Coast Highway) to Emma Wood State Beach

VOLUNTARY EVACUATIONS:
• Residents in the City of Ventura, south of Loma Vista, east of Day Road, West of Victoria Avenue and north of Telegraph Road
• Residents in the City of Ventura, east of Victoria north of Loma Vista South of Foothill west of Wells Road
• All residents of the Ojai Valley not currently covered under the current mandatory evacuation
• City of Fillmore - Boundary of 2nd Street north to 4th Street & Island View Street east to Pole Creek
• City of Fillmore - Boundary of 4th Street on the south to Pole Canyon Road, Pole Canyon Road northeast to Goodenough Road, Goodenough Road south to 5th Street and 5th Street southeast to 4th Street
• City of Fillmore - Boundary of Hwy 23 & the Santa Clara River south to Guiberson Road, Guiberson Road east to Torrey Road and Torrey Road north to the Santa Clara River

EVACUATION SHELTERS: City of Ventura - Ventura County Fairgrounds at Miners Building (Red Cross - Includes an Animal Shelter for all types of animals) – 10 W Harbor Blvd, Ventura, CA 93001
City of Ojai - Nordhoff High School (Red Cross) -1401 Maricopa Hwy, Ojai, CA 93023
City of Oxnard - Oxnard College Gymnasium (Red Cross)- Open 12/5/17, 0700
City of Santa Paula - Santa Paula Community Center (City of SP run shelter) - Open 0800
City of Fillmore - Veteran's Memorial Bldg (City of Fillmore run shelter), 511 2nd Street - Will be open 12/6/17, 0800 hrs
UC Santa Barbara - Santa Barbara Multi Activity Center, 552 University Road, Santa Barbara, CA

Road Closures: ROAD CLOSURES: Road closures continue to impact Highway 150 and Highway 33, as well as many other city and county roads.
Per California Highway Patrol:
Hard Closure- SR-150 at Reeves Road (east end Ojai Valley)
Hard Closure - SR-150 at Stonegate (Santa Paula)
Hard Closure - SR 150 at Telegraph Road (Santa Paula)
Hard Closure - SR 150 at Richmond Road (Santa Paula)
Hard Closure - Foothill Road at Olive/Cummings/Wells/Briggs (Santa Paula/Ventura area)
BREAKING UPDATES:
Ojai Area - Traffic is currently open for Hwy 150 (Casitas Pass Road) to US 101 (Carpenteria)
Casitas Springs area - Creek Road north of Hwy 33 closed.

Cooperating Agencies: CAL FIRE, Ventura County Fire, Ventura County Sheriff, City of Ventura Fire Department, City of Ventura Police Department, USFS/Los Padres National Forest, CAL OES, Red Cross, PG&E, CHP, Ventura County Public Works, CALTRANS, California Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Total Fire Personnel: 1776
Total Fire Engines: 362
Total Fire Crews: 32
Total Helicopters: 12
Total Dozers: 19
Total Water Tenders: 4
Incident Management Team: CAL FIRE IMT-4
Long/Lat: -119.09124/34.41521
Conditions: The fire continues to burn actively with extreme rates of spread and long range spotting when pushed by winds. The fire is established on the north and east side of Hwy 150 and is also burning on the west side of Hwy 30. The fire has pushed northwest of Ventura and has reached the Hwy 101. Firefighters continue to work aggressively to protect life and property while working on control efforts around the fire perimeter.
SCHOOL CLOSURES: Fillmore Unified School District, Hueneme Elementary School District, Mesa Union Elementary School District, Moorpark Unified School District, Mupu Elementary School District, Ocean View School District, Ojai Unified School District, Oxnard Elementary School District, Oxnard Union High School District, Pleasant Valley School District, Rio Elementary School District, Saint Anthony's School, Santa Clara Elementary School District (Santa Paula), Santa Paula Unified School District, Simi Valley Unified School District, University Preparation Charter School, VCOE Career Education Center Sites, VCOE-Operated School Sites and Classrooms, Ventura Unified School District, Moorpark College, Oxnard College, Ventura College, Thomas Aquinas College

Phone Numbers (805) 465-6650 (Thomas Fire Information Line )
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Dec 6, 2017 - 04:07pm PT
As of 3:33PM today:
http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/1922

Here's the evacuation map:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1CePU2TdEh86nmBDBfPOAXf8Hp7NlpVpA&ll=34.28932874392301%2C-119.08218395708002&z=10

Fire has burned down to 101 at Mussel Shoals between Ventura and Carpinteria.
We have friends in Carpinteria.

A very nasty business.

At our Firesafe Council meeting last night our CalFire liaison officer told us that the local CalFire inmate camp has sent 6 crews, leaving only 1 behind.
Most of the CalFire stations up here in the Bay Area are down to 1 engine each. The rest have gone south. Fortunately the weather up here is very cool with very little wind and we've had about 2" of rain so we feel pretty safe.

Up here in the mountains near Castle Rock the Firesafe Council has done at a lot of defensible space clearance over the past 7 years and still work on it. We provide free chipping for privately cleared wood in the spring and fall. CalFire wants no tall brush or small trees below 10 feet above ground within 100 feet of the house.

About 200 families up here had to evacuate for the Bear Fire. If it had come around the corner of the deep canyon leading up to my house it would have been extremely dicey. We already keep our passports, marriage license, insurance policies, etc in a bank safe deposit box. Pretty much fire proof and we didn't have to run around in circles to find them. Grabbed some photos from the walls, two laptops and two cell phones, extra clothes, toilet kits used for camping, a couple of photo albums and we were GONE. Fuggedaboud the TV, Stereo, the silver service and your books. Hopefully you can find the dog and cat. Although up north many were lost several badly burned cats and dogs were discovered a few days later still alive.

The one thing we have all learned from the Winery Fires up north is..........get out EARLY.

One thing CalFire has learned is that "modern" communications systems (land line, cell phone, WiFi) are prone to failure! If only a couple of towers/phone lines etc go out the entire grid gets "holes" in it leaving no way of sending "reverse 911" calls to many houses. This clearly happened in the Winery fires. You can't trust your life on reverse 911!!!

A very similar thing happened on Long Island after Hurricane Sandy (I was there). Cell service was out for over a week precisely because the phone Co had skimped on backup generators for the cell towers. NY state had requested a generator on every tower. Telco put generators on roughly every 4th or 5th. The lack of sufficient backup broke enough routes in the network mesh to bring the entire system down. Afterwards NYState regulators forced the telco to add generators.

CalFire has just announced they will be looking at old fashioned generator driven air raid sirens (are you old enough to remember cold war air raid drills? As if hiding under your bed will save you!!!) on tall towers. They can be heard for over a mile. If one goes down there's no effect on the others (unlike a network). They are completely isolated from the "regular" communications networks. And you don't need power at your house to hear them!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 05:09pm PT
hey there say, high traverse...

very good... to hear this:

One thing CalFire has learned is that "modern" communications systems (land line, cell phone, WiFi) are prone to failure! If only a couple of towers/phone lines etc go out the entire grid gets "holes" in it leaving no way of sending "reverse 911" calls to many houses. This clearly happened in the Winery fires. You can't trust your life on reverse 911!!!

CalFire has just announced they will be looking at old fashioned generator driven air raid sirens (are you old enough to remember cold war air raid drills? As if hiding under your bed will save you!!!) on tall towers. They can be heard for over a mile. If one goes down there's no effect on the others (unlike a network). They are completely isolated from the "regular" communications networks. And you don't need power at your house to hear them!


wow...
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 6, 2017 - 05:23pm PT
https://www.facebook.com/urbanleakdotcom/videos/1806837802945822/
Ojai Alex

Trad climber
Ojai, CA
Dec 7, 2017 - 02:35pm PT
Credit: Ojai Alex

This is the current view from the Pine Mountain bouldering area.
Many homes have been lost. And perhaps all of the Ojai front country climbing areas have been affected.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 04:00pm PT
hey there say, ojai alex... oh my... thank you for sharing the view, sad and awful as it is...

:( it helps to really show 'whats going' on, even from a distance...

prayers and compassion ,to all... :(
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Dec 7, 2017 - 04:12pm PT

(Photograph of Southern California Fires taken from the International Space Station on December 7 of 2017.)
https://robertscribbler.com/2017/12/07/rise-of-the-fimbul-fires-climate-change-enhanced-jets-of-flame-rage-across-southern-california/

Do the fires make up less than 0.04% of California's land area?
Cause that would equate to 400 ppm and I've heard that's an insignificant number.
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Dec 7, 2017 - 04:21pm PT
Thomas Fire 12-7-17
Thomas Fire 12-7-17
Credit: GeoMac
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Dec 7, 2017 - 06:55pm PT

https://thomasaquinas.edu

The fire is named after this lovely Catholic Campus. Thus far, they have been spared any real damage, although the fire reportedly burned right up to the property perimeter.

I live in Malibu. The weather experts say that they have never seen such low humidity readings right next to the coast. I went to the beach around 2 p.m. today (Thursday). Felt like I was in the desert. As of today, they were able to save Ojai,

All of the reporting so far has been about saving the areas with homes, but no mention of actually getting a hold on the perimeter. Some sad scenes. The fire trucks got to one hillside cul-de-sac, and because of the power outage, the electric pumps that service the hydrants were not working. They had to use water from their trucks, and watched as five houses burned in front of them.

neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 09:26pm PT
hey there say, aspendougoy, and jody...

thank you for the updates ... and the link...

awful, as to the situation that you mentioned, aspendougy... :O
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Dec 8, 2017 - 01:30pm PT
A photo taken from the International Space Station and moved on social media by astronaut Randy Bresnik shows smoke rising from wildfire burning in Southern California, on December 6

Credit: Reilly

© Jae Hong/AP Photo
A firefighter carries a water hose as a large painting saved from a wildfire is propped against an SUV on Dec. 6 in the Bel Air district of Los Angeles. 
Credit: Reilly

© Marcus Yam/Los Angeles Times/Getty Images
A brushfire moving with the wind sends embers all over the place in residential neighborhoods north of Ventura, Calif. on Dec. 5.
Credit: Reilly
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2017 - 03:19pm PT
hey there say, so... is this BURNING towards the sea??
John M

climber
Dec 10, 2017 - 07:49am PT
Thomas fire.. 12/7/17
Thomas fire.. 12/7/17
Credit: John M

The Thomas fire expanded a lot last night.

Thomas fire 12/10/17
Thomas fire 12/10/17
Credit: John M

Yes neebee.. the fire is heading mostly west and north. The winds are out of the east during Santa Ana wind events. The fire started just north of Santa Paula, ( where the fire flame symbol is in the second photo ) and went directly west and slightly south ( left in the first photo ) towards Ventura in one night. Then started spreading out north and east . Because the fire went north and then overnight was driven again by winds from the east, it jumped highway 150 and now Carpinteria is in danger. If the winds keep going, then Santa Barbara will be next. More winds predicted for today, though not as strong as they have been. Gusts to 25 mph. The first night the gust were hitting close to 60 mph. Thats why on the first night the fire traveled 10 miles in a matter of hours.
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