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neebee
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calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 05:09pm PT
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hey there say, high traverse...
very good... to hear this:
One thing CalFire has learned is that "modern" communications systems (land line, cell phone, WiFi) are prone to failure! If only a couple of towers/phone lines etc go out the entire grid gets "holes" in it leaving no way of sending "reverse 911" calls to many houses. This clearly happened in the Winery fires. You can't trust your life on reverse 911!!!
CalFire has just announced they will be looking at old fashioned generator driven air raid sirens (are you old enough to remember cold war air raid drills? As if hiding under your bed will save you!!!) on tall towers. They can be heard for over a mile. If one goes down there's no effect on the others (unlike a network). They are completely isolated from the "regular" communications networks. And you don't need power at your house to hear them!
wow...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 04:00pm PT
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hey there say, ojai alex... oh my... thank you for sharing the view, sad and awful as it is...
:( it helps to really show 'whats going' on, even from a distance...
prayers and compassion ,to all... :(
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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https://thomasaquinas.edu
The fire is named after this lovely Catholic Campus. Thus far, they have been spared any real damage, although the fire reportedly burned right up to the property perimeter.
I live in Malibu. The weather experts say that they have never seen such low humidity readings right next to the coast. I went to the beach around 2 p.m. today (Thursday). Felt like I was in the desert. As of today, they were able to save Ojai,
All of the reporting so far has been about saving the areas with homes, but no mention of actually getting a hold on the perimeter. Some sad scenes. The fire trucks got to one hillside cul-de-sac, and because of the power outage, the electric pumps that service the hydrants were not working. They had to use water from their trucks, and watched as five houses burned in front of them.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 09:26pm PT
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hey there say, aspendougoy, and jody...
thank you for the updates ... and the link...
awful, as to the situation that you mentioned, aspendougy... :O
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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A photo taken from the International Space Station and moved on social media by astronaut Randy Bresnik shows smoke rising from wildfire burning in Southern California, on December 6
© Jae Hong/AP Photo
A firefighter carries a water hose as a large painting saved from a wildfire is propped against an SUV on Dec. 6 in the Bel Air district of Los Angeles.
© Marcus Yam/Los Angeles Times/Getty Images
A brushfire moving with the wind sends embers all over the place in residential neighborhoods north of Ventura, Calif. on Dec. 5.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2017 - 03:19pm PT
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hey there say, so... is this BURNING towards the sea??
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John M
climber
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Dec 10, 2017 - 07:49am PT
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The Thomas fire expanded a lot last night.
Yes neebee.. the fire is heading mostly west and north. The winds are out of the east during Santa Ana wind events. The fire started just north of Santa Paula, ( where the fire flame symbol is in the second photo ) and went directly west and slightly south ( left in the first photo ) towards Ventura in one night. Then started spreading out north and east . Because the fire went north and then overnight was driven again by winds from the east, it jumped highway 150 and now Carpinteria is in danger. If the winds keep going, then Santa Barbara will be next. More winds predicted for today, though not as strong as they have been. Gusts to 25 mph. The first night the gust were hitting close to 60 mph. Thats why on the first night the fire traveled 10 miles in a matter of hours.
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couchmaster
climber
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Dec 10, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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ARSONIST CAUGHT!!!!
What kind of a loonie starts fires like this? This guy caught in the act by people who had earlier fled a fire.
"A man suspected of setting fires near the Anaheim Hills Festival shopping center Friday was detained after a brave Ventura resident escaping one of Southern California's wildfires sprung into action to stop him. The man believed to be an arsonist was wearing all black and seen starting multiple vegetation fires near the shopping center before Josh Vietti stopped him, according to an Anaheim Fire & Rescue Department official. "I heard rustling in the bushes so I tied my dog on the fire hydrant and just took off running toward the bushes," Vietti said. Vietti and a second good Samaritan, Scott Nelson, followed the suspected arsonist. Upon confrontation, he claimed he was trying to start a campfire."
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Thomas-Fire-Evacuee-Stops-Potential-Arsonist-in-Anaheim-462978303.html
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2017 - 04:42pm PT
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hey there say, john m... say, thanks... i was never sure exactly what the santa ana winds, did... i understand now...
i DID just hear about santa barbara, and came over here to see what the updates were...
folks find them and get them up quick here...
thank you again, john m...
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John M
climber
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Dec 10, 2017 - 05:38pm PT
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You are welcome neebee. I lived in Fillmore at one time and worked out of Ventura. I surfed all up and down that coast and hiked and backpacked around the Sespe wilderness, so it is a special place to me.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 10, 2017 - 06:02pm PT
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I live just up the coast from SB about an hours drive and have been under the orange and brown sky of smoke since Thursday. This morning is the worst so far with about 1/4 inch of ash fall and the smoke dead on the ground.
Dawn and I have been watching the local KEYT news feed all day and since we once lived in SB and now just work there - we are very familiar with the areas at risk and the threats to many friends we still have in town.
This thing is a full blown monster and Steve around the corner who works for Phos-Chek tells me the chatter is it will burn until Christmas. Already the 5th largest fire in the State's history at over 200,000 acres with unofficial acreage at 225,000.
P.S. - best thing to donate to Firefighters - Visine - no kidding! Neighbors son works for CalFire and passed this tip on to me.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2017 - 09:37am PT
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hey there say, all... just checked in to see how you all are...
nothing we can do, for you... but, to say we care...
and prayers for safety...
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 10:48am PT
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Yesterday got a call from friends. They were evacuating from Montecito and needed help. The drive up there was eerie, like driving into the apocalypse.
In spots the fire has burned both sides of the 101. They did a remarkable job saving La Conchita. Those slopes above are completely burned, though and the rainy season is ready to start. Not sure I'd want to be living there right now.
In Montecito the sky was yellow brown, ash coating everything. We loaded cars with what we could. They got the mandatory evacuation notice while we were there.
On the drive back to LA that evening we could see a solid line of fire burning from Summerland to a little south of Carpenteria. Close, no more than a 1/2 mile from the freeway. I didn't get a good look since I was driving, but it sure seemed like a group of homes in Carpenteria were about to get over run.
A little bit of hell has arrived in paradise.
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D. Rivas
climber
Ventura, CA.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:35am PT
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Ventura city hall.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:44am PT
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D. Rivas
climber
Ventura, CA.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 01:12pm PT
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Mouse, not really terraced, but rather a trail system and botanical garden w interpretive signs, benches a kiosk or two all the way up the hill back to the shooting range. It was actually very nice.
It will grow back.
davi.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2017 - 01:45pm PT
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hey there say, ... to Gary... and D. Rivas...
oh my, thanks for the updates...
i am trying to call home, as to an aunt, down in santa barbara...
*thanks too, mouse for the pre'pic, of the city hall...
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