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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Prayers for those in area.
"Cryin' won't help you
Prayin' won't do you no good"
Robert Plant
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Hope Mike and Wendy Graham are good. Big fire and huge winds.
Peace
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Hoping for the best for everyone affected. Wind was really blowing hard and offshore early this morning down here.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Dear Jesus, please stop what you started.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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This fire must be a beast because I'm a ways south in Santa Monica and it's like the inside of a chimney down here. Even inside my office reeks of fire.
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Esparza
Trad climber
Westminster, CA
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On my way to work this morning in the lovely city of Van Nuys... A good friend nearly lost their home in Santa Paula... Gnarly...
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Bluelens
Social climber
Pasadena and Ojai, CA
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I evacuated my spouse's house near Lake Casitas in west Ojai at 7 am and he followed at 10:30. I would like to thank those who posted a few months ago re the Santa Rosa and Napa fires. Those testimonies were fresh in my mind. I quickly realized the need to leave before exit routes to the Ojai valley jammed with traffic. Sure enough five hours later only two roads out are open (down from four). We packed the camping gear-- in case the house goes, my spouse will be camplng on his land during rebuilding.
I watched the orange glow over the ridge west of town last night as it blew south toward Ventura.
Feeling for those needing horse trailers--thinking some of the many horses in the valley may not make it out. It's a dog, llama, etc town and the humane society volunteers are asking for food donations (for the staff) and alfalfa, green hay etc. #Thomasfire on Twitter
Laura and Martin
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Got news from my Buddy up there, lost one structure, but main house spared and he and his wife are safe.
Peace
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D. Rivas
climber
Ventura, CA.
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Ventura Avenue hillside near Stanley last night.
davi.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Just a horrible situation. My heart goes out to all affected and hope casualties are minimal.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Gomez, thought of our friend at once early this a.m. Glad to hear they are OK.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Thick smoke is seen streaming from several fires, including the #CreekFire, in southern California in this @NASAEarth satellite view from this afternoon. Take a look: http://go.nasa.gov/2AWlHvt
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dfrost7
Social climber
Long Beach, Ca
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Yes, Lizzie. Looking for word about Mike and Wendy. Hope they are untouched by this. Lots and lots of Patagonia / Lost Arrow people live right there. Can't believe how close the evac boundary is to 'gonia - Art City is in the evac area. Lots of prayers for all of them. My buddy Russell Erickson is right up the street from this mess. Love Ventura - hate to see this happen.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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That Creek fire is right next door to the La Tuna fire area.
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dfrost7
Social climber
Long Beach, Ca
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Fascinating picture, @xCon
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 01:32pm PT
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hey there, say ... oh my!!!
i have seen film clips and this is so awful... :O
note-- anastasia said her house was still there...
(i think there is much concern over friends though... )
she is okay, she is in texas...
wow, bluelens, oh my!
and everyone! i will read how things are going,
i just stopped by fast...
have more things to go do...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 01:34pm PT
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hey there say, dfrost7 ... good to hear from you...
man oh man... yes, prayers for all, and for your friend...
:(
i have two family members that have places in the ventura
area... so far, i think they are okay...
and, an aunt, though she is in santa barbara...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 01:37pm PT
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hey there say, ... bluelens/laura...
as to this quote:
I would like to thank those who posted a few months ago re the Santa Rosa and Napa fires. Those testimonies were fresh in my mind. I quickly realized the need to leave before exit routes to the Ojai valley jammed with traffic. Sure enough five hours later only two roads out are open (down from four).
i have heard many say THIS has helped them too...
good you left...
we humans over-lap by sharing stories...
there is hope that what we share, may help others...
edit:
say on the facebook, a gal i new shared a link for the
ventura human society...
so we are sharing that, too...
UPDATE FROM HIGHTRAVERSE, in the fire thread...
Thomas Fire Incident Information:
Last Updated: December 06, 2017 11:46 am
Date/Time Started: December 04, 2017 6:28 pm
Administrative Unit: Unified Command: CAL FIRE, Ventura County Fire, City of Ventura, Los Padres National Forest, Ventura County Sheriff,
County: Ventura County
Location: Hwy 150 and Hwy 126, north of Santa Paula
Acres Burned - Containment: 65,000 acres
Structures Threatened: 12,000 structures threatened
Structures Destroyed: 150 structures
Evacuations: Evacuation Map
MANDATORY EVACUATIONS:
• City of Santa Paula - Boundary of Say Road north to Thomas Aquinas, Dickenson Ranch Road east to Santa Paula Creek
• City of Santa Paula - Boundary of Monte Vista Street north to city limits, Foothill Road from Steckel to Peck Road to north of city limits
• Santa Paula unincorporated area towards Ventura- North of Foothill Road from Peck Road to Wells Road including: Wheeler Canyon, Aliso Canyon and Rancho Vista
• City of Ventura - Teloma east to Brent Street, Telegraph Road north to north of Foothill Road
• City of Ventura - Victoria Road east to Hill Road, Telegraph Road north to Foothill Road
• City of Ventura - North Ashwood Avenue east to Hill Road, Telegraph Road north to Foothill Road
• City of Ventura - North of Foothill Road from Wells Road to Poli Street
• City of Ventura - North of Main Street from Seward Avenue to Hwy 33 (includes entire Ventura Avenue area)
• Oak View - Boundary of Hwy 33, Creek Road and Hermosa Road
• Entire Community of Casitas Springs - Evacuate to Ventura County Fairgrounds - 10 West Harbor Blvd., Ventura
• East Ojai Valley - Carne Road east to McAndrew Road, Reeves Road north to Thacher Road
• Upper Ojai Valley - Hwy 150 from Dennison Grade east to Osborne Road and all residences north
• Ventura County North Coast Area - Boundary of Hwy 33 on the north to Casitas Vista Road, northwest to Hwy 150, Hwy 150 (Casitas Pass Road) west to US 101 and south on US 101 (including Pacific Coast Highway) to Emma Wood State Beach
VOLUNTARY EVACUATIONS:
• Residents in the City of Ventura, south of Loma Vista, east of Day Road, West of Victoria Avenue and north of Telegraph Road
• Residents in the City of Ventura, east of Victoria north of Loma Vista South of Foothill west of Wells Road
• All residents of the Ojai Valley not currently covered under the current mandatory evacuation
• City of Fillmore - Boundary of 2nd Street north to 4th Street & Island View Street east to Pole Creek
• City of Fillmore - Boundary of 4th Street on the south to Pole Canyon Road, Pole Canyon Road northeast to Goodenough Road, Goodenough Road south to 5th Street and 5th Street southeast to 4th Street
• City of Fillmore - Boundary of Hwy 23 & the Santa Clara River south to Guiberson Road, Guiberson Road east to Torrey Road and Torrey Road north to the Santa Clara River
EVACUATION SHELTERS: City of Ventura - Ventura County Fairgrounds at Miners Building (Red Cross - Includes an Animal Shelter for all types of animals) – 10 W Harbor Blvd, Ventura, CA 93001
City of Ojai - Nordhoff High School (Red Cross) -1401 Maricopa Hwy, Ojai, CA 93023
City of Oxnard - Oxnard College Gymnasium (Red Cross)- Open 12/5/17, 0700
City of Santa Paula - Santa Paula Community Center (City of SP run shelter) - Open 0800
City of Fillmore - Veteran's Memorial Bldg (City of Fillmore run shelter), 511 2nd Street - Will be open 12/6/17, 0800 hrs
UC Santa Barbara - Santa Barbara Multi Activity Center, 552 University Road, Santa Barbara, CA
Road Closures: ROAD CLOSURES: Road closures continue to impact Highway 150 and Highway 33, as well as many other city and county roads.
Per California Highway Patrol:
Hard Closure- SR-150 at Reeves Road (east end Ojai Valley)
Hard Closure - SR-150 at Stonegate (Santa Paula)
Hard Closure - SR 150 at Telegraph Road (Santa Paula)
Hard Closure - SR 150 at Richmond Road (Santa Paula)
Hard Closure - Foothill Road at Olive/Cummings/Wells/Briggs (Santa Paula/Ventura area)
BREAKING UPDATES:
Ojai Area - Traffic is currently open for Hwy 150 (Casitas Pass Road) to US 101 (Carpenteria)
Casitas Springs area - Creek Road north of Hwy 33 closed.
Cooperating Agencies: CAL FIRE, Ventura County Fire, Ventura County Sheriff, City of Ventura Fire Department, City of Ventura Police Department, USFS/Los Padres National Forest, CAL OES, Red Cross, PG&E, CHP, Ventura County Public Works, CALTRANS, California Dept. of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Total Fire Personnel: 1776
Total Fire Engines: 362
Total Fire Crews: 32
Total Helicopters: 12
Total Dozers: 19
Total Water Tenders: 4
Incident Management Team: CAL FIRE IMT-4
Long/Lat: -119.09124/34.41521
Conditions: The fire continues to burn actively with extreme rates of spread and long range spotting when pushed by winds. The fire is established on the north and east side of Hwy 150 and is also burning on the west side of Hwy 30. The fire has pushed northwest of Ventura and has reached the Hwy 101. Firefighters continue to work aggressively to protect life and property while working on control efforts around the fire perimeter.
SCHOOL CLOSURES: Fillmore Unified School District, Hueneme Elementary School District, Mesa Union Elementary School District, Moorpark Unified School District, Mupu Elementary School District, Ocean View School District, Ojai Unified School District, Oxnard Elementary School District, Oxnard Union High School District, Pleasant Valley School District, Rio Elementary School District, Saint Anthony's School, Santa Clara Elementary School District (Santa Paula), Santa Paula Unified School District, Simi Valley Unified School District, University Preparation Charter School, VCOE Career Education Center Sites, VCOE-Operated School Sites and Classrooms, Ventura Unified School District, Moorpark College, Oxnard College, Ventura College, Thomas Aquinas College
Phone Numbers (805) 465-6650 (Thomas Fire Information Line )
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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As of 3:33PM today:
http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/1922
Here's the evacuation map:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1CePU2TdEh86nmBDBfPOAXf8Hp7NlpVpA&ll=34.28932874392301%2C-119.08218395708002&z=10
Fire has burned down to 101 at Mussel Shoals between Ventura and Carpinteria.
We have friends in Carpinteria.
A very nasty business.
At our Firesafe Council meeting last night our CalFire liaison officer told us that the local CalFire inmate camp has sent 6 crews, leaving only 1 behind.
Most of the CalFire stations up here in the Bay Area are down to 1 engine each. The rest have gone south. Fortunately the weather up here is very cool with very little wind and we've had about 2" of rain so we feel pretty safe.
Up here in the mountains near Castle Rock the Firesafe Council has done at a lot of defensible space clearance over the past 7 years and still work on it. We provide free chipping for privately cleared wood in the spring and fall. CalFire wants no tall brush or small trees below 10 feet above ground within 100 feet of the house.
About 200 families up here had to evacuate for the Bear Fire. If it had come around the corner of the deep canyon leading up to my house it would have been extremely dicey. We already keep our passports, marriage license, insurance policies, etc in a bank safe deposit box. Pretty much fire proof and we didn't have to run around in circles to find them. Grabbed some photos from the walls, two laptops and two cell phones, extra clothes, toilet kits used for camping, a couple of photo albums and we were GONE. Fuggedaboud the TV, Stereo, the silver service and your books. Hopefully you can find the dog and cat. Although up north many were lost several badly burned cats and dogs were discovered a few days later still alive.
The one thing we have all learned from the Winery Fires up north is..........get out EARLY.
One thing CalFire has learned is that "modern" communications systems (land line, cell phone, WiFi) are prone to failure! If only a couple of towers/phone lines etc go out the entire grid gets "holes" in it leaving no way of sending "reverse 911" calls to many houses. This clearly happened in the Winery fires. You can't trust your life on reverse 911!!!
A very similar thing happened on Long Island after Hurricane Sandy (I was there). Cell service was out for over a week precisely because the phone Co had skimped on backup generators for the cell towers. NY state had requested a generator on every tower. Telco put generators on roughly every 4th or 5th. The lack of sufficient backup broke enough routes in the network mesh to bring the entire system down. Afterwards NYState regulators forced the telco to add generators.
CalFire has just announced they will be looking at old fashioned generator driven air raid sirens (are you old enough to remember cold war air raid drills? As if hiding under your bed will save you!!!) on tall towers. They can be heard for over a mile. If one goes down there's no effect on the others (unlike a network). They are completely isolated from the "regular" communications networks. And you don't need power at your house to hear them!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2017 - 05:09pm PT
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hey there say, high traverse...
very good... to hear this:
One thing CalFire has learned is that "modern" communications systems (land line, cell phone, WiFi) are prone to failure! If only a couple of towers/phone lines etc go out the entire grid gets "holes" in it leaving no way of sending "reverse 911" calls to many houses. This clearly happened in the Winery fires. You can't trust your life on reverse 911!!!
CalFire has just announced they will be looking at old fashioned generator driven air raid sirens (are you old enough to remember cold war air raid drills? As if hiding under your bed will save you!!!) on tall towers. They can be heard for over a mile. If one goes down there's no effect on the others (unlike a network). They are completely isolated from the "regular" communications networks. And you don't need power at your house to hear them!
wow...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 04:00pm PT
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hey there say, ojai alex... oh my... thank you for sharing the view, sad and awful as it is...
:( it helps to really show 'whats going' on, even from a distance...
prayers and compassion ,to all... :(
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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https://thomasaquinas.edu
The fire is named after this lovely Catholic Campus. Thus far, they have been spared any real damage, although the fire reportedly burned right up to the property perimeter.
I live in Malibu. The weather experts say that they have never seen such low humidity readings right next to the coast. I went to the beach around 2 p.m. today (Thursday). Felt like I was in the desert. As of today, they were able to save Ojai,
All of the reporting so far has been about saving the areas with homes, but no mention of actually getting a hold on the perimeter. Some sad scenes. The fire trucks got to one hillside cul-de-sac, and because of the power outage, the electric pumps that service the hydrants were not working. They had to use water from their trucks, and watched as five houses burned in front of them.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2017 - 09:26pm PT
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hey there say, aspendougoy, and jody...
thank you for the updates ... and the link...
awful, as to the situation that you mentioned, aspendougy... :O
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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A photo taken from the International Space Station and moved on social media by astronaut Randy Bresnik shows smoke rising from wildfire burning in Southern California, on December 6
© Jae Hong/AP Photo
A firefighter carries a water hose as a large painting saved from a wildfire is propped against an SUV on Dec. 6 in the Bel Air district of Los Angeles.
© Marcus Yam/Los Angeles Times/Getty Images
A brushfire moving with the wind sends embers all over the place in residential neighborhoods north of Ventura, Calif. on Dec. 5.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2017 - 03:19pm PT
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hey there say, so... is this BURNING towards the sea??
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John M
climber
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Dec 10, 2017 - 07:49am PT
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The Thomas fire expanded a lot last night.
Yes neebee.. the fire is heading mostly west and north. The winds are out of the east during Santa Ana wind events. The fire started just north of Santa Paula, ( where the fire flame symbol is in the second photo ) and went directly west and slightly south ( left in the first photo ) towards Ventura in one night. Then started spreading out north and east . Because the fire went north and then overnight was driven again by winds from the east, it jumped highway 150 and now Carpinteria is in danger. If the winds keep going, then Santa Barbara will be next. More winds predicted for today, though not as strong as they have been. Gusts to 25 mph. The first night the gust were hitting close to 60 mph. Thats why on the first night the fire traveled 10 miles in a matter of hours.
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couchmaster
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Dec 10, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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ARSONIST CAUGHT!!!!
What kind of a loonie starts fires like this? This guy caught in the act by people who had earlier fled a fire.
"A man suspected of setting fires near the Anaheim Hills Festival shopping center Friday was detained after a brave Ventura resident escaping one of Southern California's wildfires sprung into action to stop him. The man believed to be an arsonist was wearing all black and seen starting multiple vegetation fires near the shopping center before Josh Vietti stopped him, according to an Anaheim Fire & Rescue Department official. "I heard rustling in the bushes so I tied my dog on the fire hydrant and just took off running toward the bushes," Vietti said. Vietti and a second good Samaritan, Scott Nelson, followed the suspected arsonist. Upon confrontation, he claimed he was trying to start a campfire."
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Thomas-Fire-Evacuee-Stops-Potential-Arsonist-in-Anaheim-462978303.html
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2017 - 04:42pm PT
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hey there say, john m... say, thanks... i was never sure exactly what the santa ana winds, did... i understand now...
i DID just hear about santa barbara, and came over here to see what the updates were...
folks find them and get them up quick here...
thank you again, john m...
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John M
climber
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Dec 10, 2017 - 05:38pm PT
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You are welcome neebee. I lived in Fillmore at one time and worked out of Ventura. I surfed all up and down that coast and hiked and backpacked around the Sespe wilderness, so it is a special place to me.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 10, 2017 - 06:02pm PT
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I live just up the coast from SB about an hours drive and have been under the orange and brown sky of smoke since Thursday. This morning is the worst so far with about 1/4 inch of ash fall and the smoke dead on the ground.
Dawn and I have been watching the local KEYT news feed all day and since we once lived in SB and now just work there - we are very familiar with the areas at risk and the threats to many friends we still have in town.
This thing is a full blown monster and Steve around the corner who works for Phos-Chek tells me the chatter is it will burn until Christmas. Already the 5th largest fire in the State's history at over 200,000 acres with unofficial acreage at 225,000.
P.S. - best thing to donate to Firefighters - Visine - no kidding! Neighbors son works for CalFire and passed this tip on to me.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2017 - 09:37am PT
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hey there say, all... just checked in to see how you all are...
nothing we can do, for you... but, to say we care...
and prayers for safety...
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 10:48am PT
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Yesterday got a call from friends. They were evacuating from Montecito and needed help. The drive up there was eerie, like driving into the apocalypse.
In spots the fire has burned both sides of the 101. They did a remarkable job saving La Conchita. Those slopes above are completely burned, though and the rainy season is ready to start. Not sure I'd want to be living there right now.
In Montecito the sky was yellow brown, ash coating everything. We loaded cars with what we could. They got the mandatory evacuation notice while we were there.
On the drive back to LA that evening we could see a solid line of fire burning from Summerland to a little south of Carpenteria. Close, no more than a 1/2 mile from the freeway. I didn't get a good look since I was driving, but it sure seemed like a group of homes in Carpenteria were about to get over run.
A little bit of hell has arrived in paradise.
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D. Rivas
climber
Ventura, CA.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:35am PT
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Ventura city hall.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:44am PT
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D. Rivas
climber
Ventura, CA.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 01:12pm PT
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Mouse, not really terraced, but rather a trail system and botanical garden w interpretive signs, benches a kiosk or two all the way up the hill back to the shooting range. It was actually very nice.
It will grow back.
davi.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2017 - 01:45pm PT
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hey there say, ... to Gary... and D. Rivas...
oh my, thanks for the updates...
i am trying to call home, as to an aunt, down in santa barbara...
*thanks too, mouse for the pre'pic, of the city hall...
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couchmaster
climber
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Dec 12, 2017 - 11:41am PT
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ANOTHER CALIFORNIA ARSONIST CAUGHT! https://twitter.com/ACSOSheriffs/status/894999009231740928
"Alfredo Bautista was arrested Wednesday on charges of alleged arson and assault in connection to the Grizzly Fire, which broke out at the intersection of Grizzly Peak Boulevard and Fish Ranch Road in the Berkeley Hills on Wednesday afternoon."
"has confessed to setting last week's Oakland Hills fire and seven other blazes with a cigarette lighter, University of California, Berkeley police say."
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D. Rivas
climber
Ventura, CA.
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Dec 12, 2017 - 01:54pm PT
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The Thomas Fire has burnrd 230,000 acres so far. At present, CalFire is slugging it out on five fronts; Romero Canyon near Monticito, Lake Casitas, Dry Lakes Ridge creeping down Cherry Creek, Lion Canyon and Bear Heaven/Sespe Condor Sanctuary near Fillmore. It seems that they have things in-hand, but they are saying only 20% containment.
The air quality in Ventura today is terrible. Very smoky. Seems worse today than yesterday. Sometimes the wind helps, but most of the time it doesn’t.
I’ve heard that the fire burned around Wheeler Gorge proper but that the crag/creek were spared. The Sespe Gorge, Potrero John Slab, The Fortress, the Snake Pits and Pine Mtn are all ok for now.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2017 - 03:49pm PT
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hey there, say, D. Rivas... thank you for the update...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2017 - 06:42pm PT
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hey there say, all... oh my... my aunt is there... she is okay...
and, she said there is ASH on her car, everyday, :O and the air, as we
all know, is very bad...
glad, that, as far as we know, she is not in danger...
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 13, 2017 - 11:01am PT
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Hey say Lizzie...where is Mark?
Peace
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Dec 13, 2017 - 11:05am PT
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Dean, the way things are going it will be in Slotown by next week. We can sure use a return of even just a moist on shore flow. On a side note, how are you liking SLO? My aunt and uncle started the Apple Farm Inn and restaurant years ago when I was a little kid. I remember sleeping under the booths as my dad and mom helped demo and construction. My aunt and uncle sold it several years ago but I still stop in for apple dumplings whenever I am in the area.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Dec 13, 2017 - 02:31pm PT
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Dean, I will make sure and be there. The new REI is only a mile form my house, kinda nice but kinda dangerous too.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2017 - 03:13pm PT
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hey there, ron... he, i think? is up in oakhurst area, :)
last i heard from my mom, the ventura place was okay...
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 13, 2017 - 05:37pm PT
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Thanks Lizzie, someone asked the other day, I told them last I heard, Chapman was up in Yosemite still, but that was a few years ago.
Peace
Thank you for the Christmas card!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2017 - 06:51pm PT
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hey there say, ron... you are MOST welcome...
hee hee, i keep remembering one thread, years back...
'rolodex' ron... :) (back, when i needed an address or something-- or yours,
or, don't remember now?)
:)
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 13, 2017 - 07:57pm PT
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Still get a lot of calls for contacts!
Peace
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jstan
climber
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Dec 14, 2017 - 02:18pm PT
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I can't tell where Dean got his photos. Does not look like SB. There is no fire visible on the ridge behind town and up to Calle Real. People are saying Winfrey's house in Montecito is burning, which if it were true, would have me worried. Don't think it is true. If you look at the fire map you see a finger pointed west. Last night was disappointing though. Petie is amusing herself at REI. All the firefighters buying stuff there remain pretty hopeful even though Wed was disappointing. I think three sky cranes are flying over our place on the way to Montecito. The landscaping in Montecito has trees packed into little cells with poor accessibility. Insane. CalFire says they are backfiring above Montecito in hopes of forcing the fire onto the 10 year old footprints from theTea and Jesusito . Right now they are working in 60 year old fuel. Ten mInuits ago the air cranes stopped flying over this area. Possibly the backfiring has been completed.
During the Jesusito fire I was wandering in 60 year old slash about six feet deep - until I noticed it was full of embers. Trying to see if I could keep the fire outside of our development. Pretty stupid. Ten minutes after I got out, it literally blew up.
I have some eight hoses in place ready to cool down the four sides of our place. As long as the hoses don't melt and we don't run out of water pressure, the place should be sort of defendable. Still have to close off the soffits under the roof.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 14, 2017 - 02:25pm PT
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jstan.... good luck.
fingers crossed.
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Tadman
Mountain climber
CA
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Dec 14, 2017 - 03:21pm PT
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Tadman
Mountain climber
CA
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Dec 14, 2017 - 03:22pm PT
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Tadman
Mountain climber
CA
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Dec 14, 2017 - 03:23pm PT
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 14, 2017 - 03:23pm PT
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JStan, no, Oprah is not burning. Her compound lies on the Southside of East Valley and is not in the fires path. By the way, when someone asks about Oprahs house, ask them which one?
She owns 4 around her main mansion so far.
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chappy
Social climber
oakhurst
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Dec 14, 2017 - 03:43pm PT
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As a number of people have inquired about how the fire has affected my wife and I and our property in Ventura I thought I would post up. First off, our property is fine--the fire burned primarily in the hills above Ventura and our houses are located closer to the beach out of the hills.
However, we were in the Oakview/Ojai area when the fire started and it was quite the experience. We were staying with Jamie's parents at their home in hilltop neighborhood called Saddle Mountain. This is just on the other side of the mountains from where the fire started in Santa Paula. Monday evening my wife mentioned that a fire had started in Santa Paula. I didn't really pay much attention to her comment as fires are quite common here in CA. I also remember watching the local news that evening and they had remarked on how windy it was going to be over the next several days. Hadn't quite put two and two together at that point. Later that evening we were sitting around in the family room watching some TV when the power went out. It flickered back on then went out permanently. This was my first inkling that something was amiss as I wondered if the fire was connected to the power outage. With the power out everyone but me went to bed totally oblivious to the carnage that had now been raging for several hours. I wandered out back to check the moon and stars out and noticed what seemed to be a huge fog bank beginning to obscure the moon in the direction of Santa Paula. I was just beginning to grasp what was going on but was still unclear of the magnitude of destruction. I went back in the house to tell Jamie what I saw but she was asleep. I went outside again and walked around to the front of the house where I was shocked to see the entire distant horizon over the city Ventura was a pulsating orange glow.
My God I thought this is insane. With no TV, internet and my shitty ATT cell service I had no way of knowing exactly what was going on. Then I remembered the good old car radio. I tuned into 1070 and got the full extent of the carnage. I just sat there for a few hours watching the blazing fire in the distance until the pulsating orange glow appeared ominously behind the hills just to the S.E. of Saddle Mountain where I had first noticed the smoke plume. This closeness of the pulsating orange glow coupled with the news reports of how fast the fire was traveling motivated me to wake the household. We all debated what to do and decided to hunker down for the rest of the evening (the night air was quite calm--very little wind). In the morning (Tues.)we huddled around the radio listening to the dire reports coming in from all around LA & Ventura as smoke billowed over the hills to the S. and E. We knew it was just a matter of time before the fire crested the hills to the S.E. and began burning down the hill towards Creek Rd--the last potential fire break before the houses on Saddle Mountain. We started packing and making plans to evacuate as did the entire neighborhood. The order to evacuate came in the early afternoon as the flames crested the hill and started down towards Creek Rd. We decided to wait until the last possible moment as the winds were calm and the fire was burning relatively slowly (downhill). If it crossed Creek Rd we would flee. Fortunately, it pretty much stopped there so we ended up spending another night (keeping a watchful eye on things). We awoke to thick smoke and everything covered in ash. Jamie and I left for home that morning heading down the 33 through the charred hills and smoke choked Ventura. [photoid=518350]
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chappy
Social climber
oakhurst
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Dec 14, 2017 - 03:50pm PT
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 14, 2017 - 07:07pm PT
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Good to hear yer good Mark! Stay safe. We had a scare down south in Fallbrook, not near the magnitude of the Thomas blaze, but thought we might loose our place, but all turned out good for us...not so good for many others.
Peace
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:16am PT
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Here we go Santa Barbara. Get out now alerts just issued for basically the whole Montecito areas west thru The Riviera out to San Marcos Pass.
My buddies house in that area is clocking winds at 60 mph...this monster is going to get ugly today.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2017 - 03:10pm PT
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hey there say, Ricky D... oh my!
i been wondering what is going on...
had been too busy the last two days to check fire report, was
waiting to see if more info popped up on facebook...
THANK you for updates...
:(
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 17, 2017 - 10:53am PT
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Heard the winds come ripping through Upper Slobovia about 0300 and my heart sank for those poor people. Well, I guess they’re not exactly poor in Montecito or Santa Barbara but I still feel for them.
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Climberdude
Trad climber
Clovis, CA
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Dec 18, 2017 - 05:57pm PT
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Does anyone know if the fire is getting close or has consumed the Sespe Gorge climbing areas such as Black Wall, Potereo John, and The Fortress? I hope those places do not get burned up, although I am sorry to see so many houses and other areas affected.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2017 - 09:30pm PT
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hey there, say, DMT ...wow, i was wondering what you are doing up there, too... :)
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Dec 18, 2017 - 09:58pm PT
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Ojai Alex, do you know if those shots DMT took are of the Bear Haven area of Sespe above Filmore?
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jstan
climber
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Dec 18, 2017 - 10:08pm PT
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12/18/17 9PM
This afternoon I drove south on 101 from SB to Ventura and thence on 126 to Santa Clarita. This is one heck of a fire. I saw remnant sources of new smoke one ridge back behind Montecito, Summerland and at Santa Claus lane. All of them were back behind the first landward ridge lines. No visible flames. The few places where the fire jumped 101 were apparently prevented from burning beachside homes. At 60 mph I could reach only a tentative perception. Structure protection appeared to have been hugely effective. In SB, great effort is being devoted to making Gibralter Road a primary containment line.
This fire was very persistent. At dusk on Friday I thought it was all over. Then Saturday morning we awoke to see a huge white cloud somewhere behind Monticeto that boiled up maybe 10,000 feet above Montecito, turned black, and began moving visibly west. I was doing structure protection for PT's place but soon decided if it came into our neighborhood it would roll over us as if we were not even there. Thanks to great luck( lower winds) and even greater effort it was kept inland of the houses in town. Monday 18 there was little wind and Wednesday became the next test for ability to resist motion due to the wind. Conditions seemed very hopeful but the helicopters worked like beavers all day and will do the same on Tuesday. Hopefully Monday's onshore breezes will be there also on Tuesday.
This has been a really hard one to call. But it seems there is reason now to be hopeful.
Edit:
After turning left at Ventura you can see well into some of the canyons running north.
Ash extending as far as you can see
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John M
climber
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Dec 18, 2017 - 10:35pm PT
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Ojai Alex, do you know if those shots DMT took are of the Bear Haven area of Sespe above Filmore?
I'm not Alex, but looking at the maps it looks like Bear Haven is burning.
https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/%3F/34.4671/-119.3007/10
with smoke to the north, the first two pics seem to be the bottom hot spot near Fillmore.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Dec 19, 2017 - 08:00am PT
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I have kayaked Sespe several times from Lyons Camp to Filmore, it's an awesome area and am sad to see it burn but it will recover. Bear Haven has always intrigued me but thick brush has always been a deterrent, maybe this will be the year to make an attempt to check it out?
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 19, 2017 - 08:37am PT
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Thank you - all of you- for the reports.
Just getting some light smoke here in Moorpark.
Hopefully it will be out by Christmas.
I offer my since condolences to the Family and Friends of Cory Iverson who gave his life to protect our community.
RIP
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 19, 2017 - 09:15am PT
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May have to update the title of this one -> 271,000
Thomas fire enters its third week
The scope of the Thomas fire continues to inspire awe and generate horror. The wildfire has scorched 271,000 acres across Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, destroyed more than 1,000 structures and damaged 250 more. An additional 18,000 structures remain threatened and thousands of residents still can’t go home. Some 8,450 firefighters are on the lines, the largest mobilization of fire crews to fight any wildfire in California history. The Thomas is now the state’s third-largest fire on record but is likely to become the second within the next day or two. “Usually Santa Ana winds last two days,” said Ventura County firefighter Antonio Negrete. “We’ve been firefighters for decades and have never seen anything like this.” Los Angeles Times
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Dec 19, 2017 - 07:45pm PT
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some bedtime reading regarding the drainage pictured (#1, rt edge #3) above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Francis_Dam ... spoiler alert! ... doesn't end well
edit:
as the floodwater entered the Santa Clara riverbed it overflowed the river’s banks, flooding parts of present-day Valencia and Newhall.
The flood heavily damaged the towns of Fillmore, Bardsdale, and Santa Paula, before emptying both victims and debris into the Pacific Ocean 54 miles (87 km) downstream south of Ventura at what is now the West Montalvo Oil Field around 5:30 a.m., at which point the wave was almost two miles (3 km) wide
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Dec 19, 2017 - 08:02pm PT
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Just south of where Castaic is actually.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 19, 2017 - 09:07pm PT
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Fairly recently, they were still saying that full containment was not expected until January 7th. I hope they can do it sooner than that.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Dec 20, 2017 - 07:17pm PT
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It's raining in Huntington Beach. The weather map shows some spots of precipitation near Santa Barbara. Hope it helps.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2017 - 09:49pm PT
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hey there, say, dingus and all...
thanks for chipping in here, again, with pics and info...
jan 7? :O
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 21, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
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That's some crappy ground out there!
DMT
Are you dissing Ventura county?
crappy? ;>)
Thanks for posting the pics....
It was cool with a pretty thick marine layer, then it started raining last nite.... but the Santa Anna's have returned this am. Weaker than before, but still blowing.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 21, 2017 - 03:59pm PT
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Evacuation orders lifted in Santa Barbara County as crews tame massive Thomas fire
There was “no significant increase in fire activity” in Santa Barbara County, said California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection spokesman Bill Murphy.
“Things are looking very good,” he said.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 22, 2017 - 04:52pm PT
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Looking at the map, it seemed to have stopped just short of the south side of Sespe Creek, but doesn't seem to be in danger of crossing it and continuing much.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2017 - 09:21pm PT
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hey there say, aspendougy... thanks for the update...
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Dec 23, 2017 - 08:00am PT
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On a related note, global weirding or not, California has always burned, but now we have over 39 MILLION people, so we also have a greater number of morons and potential accidents that can lead to these fires. One of the recent monsters, for example, was caused by a homeless dude's cooking fire in one of the canyons. Here's another example: A few years ago in my previous home of Tehachapi, a guy was pipe cutting in tall dry grass, sparks flying everywhere. No worries, though. He had a little bucket of water handy in case anything went wrong. The ensuing wildfire burned thousands and thousands of acres, torching some beloved mountain scenery and some classic cabins that had been in families for generations. In the same mountains: A dude decided that a fancy, low-altitude fly-by would impress his friend living down below. Barnstorming! Yeah! Crash. Death. Thousands and thousands of acres burned. In a state that has always had a long dry season every year, forty million fire starters are going to keep things interesting.
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