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Nuglet

Trad climber
Orange Murica!
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 16, 2017 - 10:28am PT
...is a dumba$$
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 16, 2017 - 10:29am PT
And he just lost the vote of the hard right
dirtbag

climber
Nov 16, 2017 - 11:06am PT
He should resign.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 16, 2017 - 11:57am PT
Very disappointing. It appears that he did commit this offense, for which he apologizes. One has to remember that he was a comedian, and some of that stuff is off-color. If he is really an abuser, there will be more accusations from others, that will be believable.

I'd suggest that this is his last term, at this point. He's too high profile, and now he's damaged. Or he might need to resign.
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Nov 16, 2017 - 12:01pm PT
He, personally, has called for a Senate Ethics investigation into his activity

I don't have a moral opinion as to whether this is serious enough that he should resign the Senate because I have no doubt virtually every male congressman has done similar sometime throughout their life and is lucky no one took a picture
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Nov 16, 2017 - 12:15pm PT
Sounds more like an awkward dope than a sexual predator.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Nov 16, 2017 - 12:16pm PT
"Lucky No ONE took a pitcure" lol
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Nov 16, 2017 - 12:26pm PT
What is "lol" about that image? And as for an awkward dope, when I read the story the woman told just now, it didn't seem the behavior of an awkward idiot to me. It seemed like the behavior of so many human male turds I have encountered over my years on earth. Yeah, where they come on to you and you're damned if you do(because then they tell their friends you're "easy") and damned if you don't(because then they make it a mission to turn the world against you).

Yeah, many a guy has done similar. Guess we've reached the tipping point, where it's no longer funny, accepted or expected, no longer acceptable, to treat women like sexual objects for a man's masturbatory fantasy. And yes, a whole passel of men who acted that way BITD whether it was decades ago, weeks ago or only days ago, are now standing in the shadow near the spotlight hoping to hell that light doesn't pass over them.

jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Nov 16, 2017 - 12:31pm PT
I do not care if you do not think the photo is funny or not. I do.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Nov 16, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
Did he date any of Roy Moore's 14 year old "girlfriends"?

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I didn't think so.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 16, 2017 - 02:54pm PT
I hope, for everyone's sake, that this doesn't grow into yet another scandal. But if it does I predict that we'll see Democrats engaging in every imaginable twist of logic to defend him. Time for some popcorn...
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 16, 2017 - 03:04pm PT
Franken doesn't get it.

Until today, he thought that idiotic photo was funny. There are people on Megan's List for doing exactly what Franken was photographed doing.

And whatever he did to that woman was serious enough that it has bugged her for over a decade, but it didn't even register on him. No big deal to Franken. He claims he didn't even remember.

Time to clean house ( and Senate )
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Nov 16, 2017 - 03:47pm PT
Was he banned from a mall like Roy Moore for being a serial stalker of 13 year olds?

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I didn't think so.

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her career:
"She writes that she has been on the covers of Playboy, Maxim and FHM."


Sen Franken:
"“I am asking that an ethics investigation be undertaken, and I will gladly cooperate.”
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Nov 16, 2017 - 04:31pm PT
Senate Dems Leave No Room For Ambiguity In Denouncing Al Franken

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrat-senators-al-franken-allegations_us_5a0dc761e4b0c0b2f2f89dfc?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


someone wants to try a False Equivalence attempting to equate the severity of Franken's behavior with one woman with the man they voted for President, when they ignored his Pussy Grabbing tape and are not following his own ongoing, live, lawsuit in Federal court brought by a woman he sexually harassed?

yeah, right, so concerned about morals and ethics...
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Nov 16, 2017 - 04:46pm PT
And he just lost the vote of the hard right

Wrong. He just won the vote of the hard right.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 16, 2017 - 05:17pm PT
I've been thinking about that picture. At first I saw it as kind of a joke. Bad taste and worse judgement, but a joke. But how would you feel if that was your daughter? Your sister, your wife? How do you think she feels about having her picture in that position all over the web for millions to see and chuckle at?

He's way out of line there. Whether his fingers are in contact with her or not, that's a really f'd up thing to do. He's taking advantage of her defenselessness, being asleep, to invade her personal space for his sick little prank.

Why is it relevant that she's been on the cover of Playboy etc.? She did those pictures voluntarily, of her own free will. Trying to portray her as more deserving of his abuse because she did those covers is a real stretch.

Of course he asked to be up before the ethics committee. It's called getting ahead of the ball, and I gotta hand it to him, it's a damned good play.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 16, 2017 - 05:37pm PT
His *apology* said he thought it was funny and it wasn't a big deal.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Nov 16, 2017 - 06:22pm PT
When you make your living by selling your image as a sex object,
it isn't a shock when people see you as a sex object.



"Before the 2006 USO tour, Tweeden was scouted as a model while working at Hooters and went on to model for Hooters, Fredrick’s of Hollywood, and Playboy."

In 1992, while working as a hostess at a Hooters restaurant (she was in their 1994 calendar) in Colorado Springs, Colorado, she won first place in the Venus International Model Search. This break led to national exposure, including a regular role as a fitness model on the TV show Fitness Beach. Tweeden modeled for promotional work for Hooters, Venus International, Frederick's of Hollywood.[2]

Tweeden was a correspondent for Fox Sports Networks' The Best Damn Sports Show Period from 2001 to 2007. In 2008, Tweeden became the third hostess of the NBC late night television series Poker After Dark.[3] She has also appeared on the political discussion series Hannity, as a member of the "Great American Panel" and occasionally appeared on the panel of Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld.[4]

Tweeden was seen in pre- and post-game coverage of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim on Fox Sports West and is currently working on Fox Sports 1's UFC Tonight, with Kenny Florian and Ariel Helwani.[4]

She has made appearances as a commentator on such Fox News shows as Hannity and Red Eye. [5][6]

Tweeden is currently on the Los Angeles morning radio show McIntyre in the Morning on KABC / 790 AM from 5 - 10AM as the news anchor. She joined the show on February 7, 2017.

Appearances
In 1996, Tweeden appeared non-nude in a fitness model pictorial for Playboy magazine. Fifteen years later, at 38 years old, she appeared again in the December, 2011 issue of Playboy, this time posing in a nude pictorial. In 2002, she was a guest character in the motocross video game Freekstyle as a motocross rider. The March 2007 Issue of FHM (which was the final printed US issue) featured Tweeden as the cover girl.[7] As part of Hooters' 25th anniversary in 2008, she was named among "The Top Hooters Girls of all time".[8]

Tweeden has gone on sixteen tours with the USO including trips to the Balkans, Afghanistan, and Iraq.[9]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/leeann-tweeden-woman-accused-al-214933803.html

http://www.thesportsbank.net/news-and-current-events/l-a-angels-leeann-tweeden-photo-gallery/

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Leeann+Tweeden+playboy&FORM=VSRANF
c wilmot

climber
Nov 16, 2017 - 06:26pm PT
It's not Frankens fault- she was asking for it

Right?...
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Nov 16, 2017 - 06:45pm PT
When you make your living by selling your image as a sex object,
it isn't a shock when people see you as a sex object.

By that logic, if a woman is raped it's her fault if she was wearing a short dress.

It's 2017 man, you've got some catching up to do.

On top of that, even if you see her as a sex object, is that an excuse to do what Franken did? Before you answer keep in mind that she was asleep. His "joke" tells us that he's comfortable with that, with her being unaware of him invading her personal space for his own amusement.

Regarding his apology. It's very well written. I'm a bit of a cynic, and I've never liked the guy even as a comic, so my opinion of it is probably biased. I think actions speak louder than words. If this business doesn't get worse, more women chiming in with evidence such as that photo, then his apology is likely to be genuine and put an end to it. If he issued that apology and more credible allegations come to light then he's toast.
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