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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 21, 2017 - 06:06pm PT
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in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World we learn the rhyme
"the more the stitches, the less the riches"
which is counter to the one I learned from my mother
"a stitch in time may save nine"
(oddly attributed to the British astronomer Francis Baily).
I guess Mom won out today... for the purchase of some YKK sliders I fixed my tent (which I've had for a long time, maybe since the early 1990s), though I will have to get a zipper replaced eventually. My total expense was something like $2 for the two sliders and about an hour of cutting thread, and resewing...
Also replaced the battery in my iPod classic, which had died last weekend (purchased in 2009 I think).
I guess I could have gotten something new... but that stuff worked fine, and 4 old sliders and a battery is a lot less to throw away.
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skywalker1
Trad climber
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Oct 21, 2017 - 06:21pm PT
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I bought a "2 person" North Face tent on consignment 23 years ago. It was probably already 10 years old. A stitch here, a slider there, a few patches for good measure. My 8 yr old daughter has been sleeping in it since she was a "little kid". I still use it for backcountry. It works so a little TLC here and there, why waste in this otherwise disposable society.
Good for you!
S...
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Oct 21, 2017 - 06:37pm PT
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Ed
"the more the stitches, the less the riches"
says redundancy costs, adds weight while often though resulting in more safety measures. So is it that Less is More ?
Ed,
"a stitch in time may save nine"
We know avoiding catastrophic failure with timely repairs takes monitoring.
I do have "JIT" written in the upper left of a shop black board. Just In Time alludes to a stitch in time saves nine but the saying for me is to accumulate less junk -- few spare parts on hand. But instant availability costs more and buying more often reduces the cost per unit. Where More is Less .
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Oct 21, 2017 - 08:10pm PT
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I am confused.
What is "Aldous Huxley's 1984"?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2017 - 10:35pm PT
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What is "Aldous Huxley's 1984"?
no I'm confused, thanks for voicing your confusion...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Oct 21, 2017 - 11:37pm PT
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hey there say, ed, and all...
hmmmm, as to this quote:
"the more the stitches, the less the riches"
that does not make sense to someone that sews, like, me... :))
i first, think back to the days when clothes were hand made/sewing-wise...
the more the stitches, the better the garment held together and the more
the 'riches' the tailor would earn...
*usually only rich folks could buy that stuff, too, :O
and then-- all these home-made quilts with 'oh so many' stitches are of far more 'riches' than others...
:)
welll, nowwwww.... thoughhhhhhhh...
in these modern days, i supposed there is no market? for these things,
when one can go to walmart, etc... :O
so i may have to 'oops' on this one, ;)
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 22, 2017 - 03:12am PT
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neebee, you've got me in stitches, gal! :0)
I need a repair on my Afghan, so well-travelled.
It seems that the knitwork has come unravelled.
May I send it to you for some TLC, please?
"Waste not, want not."
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 22, 2017 - 04:34am PT
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I'm a great reuser, and live in this realm most of the time, however;
I have nine pairs of kaukulators, all refitted with stealth soles, but I climb in a handful of TC pros and Buturas
Because they're, flat out,
Better!
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Oct 22, 2017 - 05:00am PT
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Jaybro,
Have you wasted the nine pairs of kaukulators, all refitted with stealth soles ?
That is a big collection. It is call baggage in some contexts.
I do not have any pairs of EB's. My feet have grown so I do have a small collection of good climbing shoes that no longer fit. They are not the kind Scapelli would wear. I have tried to sell 'em at a give away price but no takers at the gear swap. There is a give away place for items at the gear swap as I suspect my mother will not have any of these shoes copper plated for some kind of a display.
Are there nine people in the world that would want Kaukulartors?
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c wilmot
climber
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Oct 22, 2017 - 06:05am PT
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Cheap unethically produced Chinese products for better American living..
I wonder why corperations don't follow this lead by proclaiming how green of a company they are...in America...
As all of their polluting products are now made in ...china
I love boomer feel good logic!
Out of sight..out of mind
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 22, 2017 - 06:45am PT
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Are there nine people in the world that would want Kaukulartors
That's my point, Dinge, as things are, why would they?
Edit, ebs were the only thing going, in their time, but they we're never kaukulators. K's one of the best shoes ever made...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 22, 2017 - 07:27am PT
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Opens up a whole new door of perception, if you look at it right.
witch be potter, witch be dog?
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Oct 22, 2017 - 07:31am PT
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yanqui, I do not see "the more the stitches, the less the riches" quote there.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 22, 2017 - 07:41am PT
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^ I believe Doc Hartouni pioneered that phrase, but it is only available in the Journal of Psychics or Zeitschrift für Naturforschung and thus hard to find and hard to read if found, respectively.
"Ending is better than mending" or is it just sweet sorrow?
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Oct 22, 2017 - 08:10am PT
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No Z Brown,
The quoted source has changed from 1984 to the Brave New World. Can you read post #1 again?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 22, 2017 - 08:26am PT
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^Yeah I did.
There was no knowing how much of this legend was true and how much invented. Winston could not even remember at what date the Party itself had come into existence.
Do you subscribe to either Journal?
Frank, who all this time had been reclining with his eyes closed, suddenly opened them both up as wide as a tiger. "And just how far would you like to go in?" he asked and the three kings all looked at each other. "Not too far but just far enough so's we can say that we've been there,"
In his book “Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind,” Yuval Noah Harari argues that the agricultural revolution that took place 10,000 years ago was “history’s biggest fraud.”
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Computers and smartphones are also a Faustian bargain, in Harari’s view. Instead of saving time, inventions like email “revved up the treadmill of life to ten times its former speed and made our days more anxious and agitated.”
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Oct 22, 2017 - 12:17pm PT
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My wife and I enjoy watching the old Match Game shows from the 1970s with the king of hosts: Gene Rayburn. He commuted on weekends from the east coast to CA and filmed several episodes at a time, and on his lengthy flights he began needle-pointing, which he continued to do after leaving the show.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 22, 2017 - 12:25pm PT
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Don't tell me Gene Rayburn was a conservationist/tree hugger with that sort of carbon BOOTprint. Jet-setters should be made to walk in hell for eternity...in EBs.
I can readily excuse DMT because he is dependent on flying for his job, whereas Rayburn coulda lived where he worked -- but he was obviously a jerk.
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