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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Oct 19, 2017 - 09:09pm PT
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Excellent posts BAd and Jim.
Such a conundrum regarding climbing speed competition . . . not your Pierre Gaspard era anymore.
Climbers have been risking it all for ever . . . it is part of the game.
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Mei
Trad climber
mxi2000.net
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Oct 19, 2017 - 09:57pm PT
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...but as you know when someone gets something very dialed in and wired it’s easy to run out, no big[gie]
// WBraun
I stumbled on the above quote from a thread linked from an MP page. Thought the quote might fit here...
I don't think it's fair to impose judgement upon other people's motive for challenging themselves. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they exercise the best judgement doing what they are doing in the moment for the goal that they are trying to achieve. When they do, I will not call them reckless even if what they are doing is worlds beyond me. I wish them the best.
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Friend
climber
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Oct 19, 2017 - 10:08pm PT
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Brad is a genuinely nice guy, humble and always has a smile and way more stoked to hear what people are up to, climbing-wise, than talk about his own projects. Good luck homie. Keep it up, stay safe, go big.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Oct 19, 2017 - 10:13pm PT
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I like those guys. Get some! If you enjoy what you're doing when climbing then right on.
Some people don't like hiking or nature but like climbing. No biggie, have fun! (PS I'm pretty sure these guys like it all)
Sometimes I want to see how far I can hike in a day, sometimes I like going 10 miles on a 4 day trip. It's not like either is objectively better or more pure or whatever.
Like we give a sh**t? Hahahaha? What? Why are you reading a climbing forum when you don't care what people are climbing?
Anyway, good luck, stay safe, and you're killing it even if you don't get a record!
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Oct 19, 2017 - 10:18pm PT
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Best of luck lads. BE SAFE.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Oct 20, 2017 - 01:20am PT
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It is easy to say "They are safer than the bumblies out at so and so cliff" but remember Beth Rodden fell on a 5.9 and suffered head trauma as a result so falls can happen to anyone.
Yes. It means when you go climbing, YOU COULD DIE. SO...dont go climbing. Simply post on climbing forums about not giving a sh#t about something, after giving enough sh#t to click on the thread and make a post.
You can die many ways, some simply end it themselves, some choose to drive drunk, live an unhealthy lifestyle or loose the genetics game. No one is safe. This discussion is the same one that happened with climbers that do challenging things. Some will appreciate it, some will say they are way too unsafe, some will say they are not doing it for the right reasons...
I just want to see Jim rage in REEL ROCK! He is one of a kind. If you met him you know. :) it is pretty damn impressive to go for such a giant challenge most would consider impossible to match by a couple that was not involved in the Nose games till last year.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Oct 20, 2017 - 05:58am PT
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I'm pretty sure my partner and I had one or two single pitches on the Nose that took that much time.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 20, 2017 - 07:27am PT
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The most interesting thing to me, which is perhaps not apparent at first glance, is how important strategy is to a fast time. It's not about rushing it's about figuring out new ways to do things at many places on the route. Every piece of gear on the rack, every placement, every gear exchange and lead swap, and when to simul-climb vs short fix is important. It's the same for moving quickly and efficiently on any climb but it's a high art at this level.
Of course they need to be super fit and strong climbers and being efficient often means running it out a huge amount, so they have to have that soloing mentality as mentioned and consequences of a fall are probably going to be way more serious than many other types of climbing.
And the trust level is huge. When free soloing you typically are only risking your own life. When simul-climbing a fall by the second could kill the leader. That takes some serious balls on both ends of the rope.
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