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hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 06:33pm PT
No-I have no idea what their names are It was the sort of thing that happened and afterwards you kind of shake your head and wonder about it.
Devils Tower Monument was a great place to visit and i feel kind of bad writing about this one event.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Oct 12, 2017 - 06:34pm PT
i asked my beer salesman (think lebowski) why he dropped in to take an order a day early. said he had a court date up at the south rim ... seams his 80's silver blue buick fit someone else's description ... the ranger spotted a can rolling around on the back seat floorboard that had long ago been perforated by the seat slider track. ranger wrote him up for open container ... like even a guy in a bathrobe would ever suck stale keystone out the side of filthy can on his way writing an order for the several pallets of suds it takes to quench a week's worth of grand canyon tourists
WBraun

climber
Oct 12, 2017 - 06:45pm PT
No-I have no idea who they are

You don't even know if they were actual LEO's?

You don't even seem to recognize completely what is walking up to you?

There are several different divisions in NPS.

Which actual division approached you? You don't know?

It could have been two maintenance guys for all you know as you haven't fully described them yet.

You see how this playing out on the internet?

The minute you don't give full details the whole shebang of broad brush strokes startup and everyone gets thrown into a bucket of instant tool ......
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Oct 12, 2017 - 06:54pm PT
Yeah, you are guilty until proven innocent.
D2R2

Sport climber
Earth
Oct 12, 2017 - 06:56pm PT
I like to wear my old USFS hat, I go out and tool people when I'm bored.
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2017 - 06:58pm PT
Yes I see your point and it is not what happened to us- it was not two janitors who drove up and gave us sh#t. These were rangers who drove up in a park service truck that said Enforcement on it- I only visit the parks I don't live or work there so I cant tell you the different levels of employees. I appreciate your defense of the park service but my point in telling this story was that they were out of balance with their authority.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Oct 13, 2017 - 02:54am PT
Werner, when we get jacked up by someone with a uniform and a badge we usually don't know which level of enforcement they are. all we know is that we are at the mercy of their athority and we are usually scared and just hopeing to get through the encounter alive and without some kind of criminal charge.. If law enforcement wants to have better relationship with civilians they need to ditch the us VS them mentality and start treating us better.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 13, 2017 - 06:15am PT
If law enforcement wants to have better relationship with civilians they need to ditch the us VS them mentality and start treating us better.

The same can be said for America in general.
We as a nation need to ditch the Us vs Them mentality. ;)

c wilmot

climber
Oct 13, 2017 - 06:17am PT
The LEO rangers have a gun strapped to their waist. They are pretty obvious
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Oct 13, 2017 - 06:27am PT
Is there a field guide for these ranger subspecies Werner?

DMT
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Oct 13, 2017 - 07:18am PT
Gawd, I hate tools. I'm reminded of the tool who got all twisted when we were parked at Lover's Leap and we had a cooler sitting outside the door of our rig. The tool demanded we put it away because, and I quote: "It looks like you're camping." A total and complete ASS. We put it in. He left. We took it out. I hate this type of personality. Grrrrrrr....

BAd
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 13, 2017 - 07:25am PT
Shite always flows from the top. I wonder why I find some NP’s more abrasive than others on a consistent basis. Yosemite always seems more agro than, say, the Tetons or the Black Canyon.
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2017 - 07:31am PT
I would agree Jim--The City of Rocks was totally welcoming--I'd go back there any time
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Oct 13, 2017 - 07:40am PT
The very word 'enforcement' makes me bristle. Force all gun toters to strip naked and run over hot coals, then make them swim across Tenaya Lake I say! See how bad ass they are then.

Sorry, I know there are many good LEO's out there but, I've had my share of intimidating confrontations with real tools in my youth so, I avoid them all like the plague these days.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Oct 13, 2017 - 07:46am PT
You're lucky they weren't rangers on horseback.
gruzzy

Social climber
socal
Oct 13, 2017 - 08:09am PT
Sometimes I get a mean waiter too
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 13, 2017 - 08:15am PT
“Sometimes”? I guess you don’t go to France very often.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 13, 2017 - 08:15am PT
Mean waiters are easily dealt with when it gets time to lay down the tip.
the idle rich

climber
Estes Park, CO
Oct 13, 2017 - 08:51am PT
Jim,
Are you suggesting that we tip rangers when we get good service?
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Oct 13, 2017 - 09:03am PT
So the OP is mad that the rangers gave his son a break and let him go rather than arresting him for what appears to be a rather serious crime?
I suppose they weren't quite as friendly as he would have liked when they came upon his son (apparently) committing said crime?

I would also suggest that starting a conversation with an LEO by telling a weird, awkward "joke" is probably not best practice. I know that I would prefer that an LEO keep his "jokes" to himself when dealing with me, and I'd keep that mutual.

(I don't mean to say that I necessarily think the son was committing a crime; I really have no idea other than coming across the following in one minute of Googling. Just thinking of it from the LEO's perspective.)

18 U.S. Code § 912 - Officer or employee of the United States
US Code

Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
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