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Jon Beck
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Oceanside
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It is Trumps way of distracting from the Russia investigation, but Muller is not that naive, and according to Tillerson, Trump is a f*#king moron.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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This thread is about severing the JCPOA. Trump's stupidity merely follows from that.
Curt
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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It's probably not all or nothing. There may be a strategy in which Trump doesn't certify compliance, giving congress a couple of months to act, to re-implement sanctions. Congress then fails to act and time marches on. Trump pleases his supporters, but doesn't kill the deal.
Most of you think Trump is an idiot and will scoff at this scenario.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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^say man - why the brother's interview delete?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I really doubt that if you took Trump to a globe and asked him to point out Iran that you would get a correct response.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Obama and Bush by destroying Libya and Iraq has contributed more to nuclear proliferation than Trump will ever possibly have chance in his lifetime. Qaddafi has given up his nuks program and was rewarded for that. Saddam did not get nuks in time - where is he now?
Guess now what all the other small guys who cannot afford to spend 600 billion a year on defense budget thinking? Nuks are cheap in comparison and do the job of keeping that baboon with grenade away. That is all what counts.
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WBraun
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Trump IS Netanyahu's st00pid puppet.
Netanyahu hates hates hates hates hates IRAN
Netanyahu is psychotic and a delusional idiot.
The US is Netanyahu's bitch because Americans in DC are st00pid.
Once America gets rid of this moron terrorist Netanyahu's influence then Trump will disappear also.
How do think Trump became POTUS?
It's Netanyahu that has the biggest manipulations in the US elections.
It's Netanyahu that made it look like it was the Russians.
The criminal Netanyahu's clown govt. owns the software that runs the US voting machines and the security in the airports.
How do think terrorists can move so freely around the world while everyone else can't.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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I don't , think..
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zBrown
Ice climber
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What would an actual North Korean attack look like? Chances are, it's not what you're thinking. Instead of unleashing the traditional nuclear nightmare, North Korea could go another route—an EMP. An electromagnetic pulse could take down an electrical power grid, causing economic chaos rather than human casualties.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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We as Americans are increasing our own danger by continuing to accept and follow the bogus leadership we have been presented with for the last 54 years.
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vlani
Trad climber
mountain view, ca
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Why North Korea would attack anyone? They will use nuks only for self defense, and the tactics are trivial - inflict the unacceptable damage.
That means the maximum number of american casualties if possible. Nuking DC would be ideal for that purpose. If not - then maximum number of casualties that still matter to US, Seoul or Tokyo will do.
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WBraun
climber
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The US should stop supporting this criminal terrorist .....
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Werner didn't tell the half of it.
Several months prior to the 9/11 attacks, a decorated former Israeli soldier living in the U.S. went to collect some ivy cuttings at a local park. He was next to an ivy-covered fence with an area below, hidden from view, where he could look down, seeing and hearing what was going on. He overheard two men talking, saying that “ The Twin Towers were coming down” and “The Arabs are so stupid, they don’t know we are using them.” This was reported to the FBI and is on record. He could understand them because he spoke their language, Hebrew, the language they speak in Israel.
During the attacks, a group of about five men in a white van were seen taking video footage of the attacks, and high fiving one another in a celebratory fashion. They were seen by multiple witnesses. They were detained by the FBI. They worked for a company called URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS. The company was staffed almost exclusively by Israelis. Many were detained by the FBI for some time but eventually let go. The company closed down very quickly and they all fled to Israel. Some of them were on talk radio over there, and said that they were sent over to “document the event.”
The day of the 9/11 attacks a warning went out from ODIGO “an Israeli Owned Messenger Service.” Stay away from the Twin Towers.
Thirty seconds prior to the collapse of building #7, the owner of the Twin Towers Larry Silverstein said, “We’re Pulling It.”
700 Engineers from Europe said the Twin Towers had to be controlled demolition.
Netanyahu said, after the 9/11 attacks, that they were “very good for Israel.”
The FBI discovered that MOSSAD (Israeli Intel agents) were in the apartment next to the 9/11 hijackers in Florida.
At the Logan airport, you find a white van, supposedly the hijackers, with a copy of the Koran in the front seat. How gullible can people be?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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What should be done about the elected leader of the Jewish state in the Middle East
What should be done about Ryan and McConnell for that matter. We should support neither Zionism or Christianity . . . there is a legal separation of church and state.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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At the Logan airport, you find a white van, supposedly the hijackers, with a copy of the Koran in the front seat. How gullible can people be?
Uh huh. And I heard there was a terrible fight in the van between the Abominable Snowman and Big Foot. Awful. If Elvis and the guy who staged the fake moon landing hadn't been on hand to break it up it would have been way worse.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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SNL on ST
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Alexey
climber
San Jose, CA
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aspendoggy, you need to start working on 21-st century version of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion"
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clifff
Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
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Noam Chomsky: First six months of Trump Presidency is a horror story (August 30, 2017)
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Oct 24, 2017 - 08:35pm PT
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Is it too much thread drift to talk about tampering with investigations?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-manafort-possible-money-laundering-probe-report/
So Trump fired Preet from NY Dist Atty's office when Trump was actively being investigated for a few cases, probably in relation to money laundering of Russian money related to Magnitsky act. Now Manafort is being indicted for this stuff, after Trump screened the people who would be prosecuting.
Is it too much of a leap to think they discussed "I'll give you the job if Manafort takes the fall and it doesn't spread to me?"
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Oct 24, 2017 - 09:45pm PT
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Clinton? bwahhhhhhhhhh
it is 2017 dude, wake up
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Oct 24, 2017 - 09:48pm PT
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With all due respect Cosmic . . . Clinton is past tense, particularly Hillary, as she was never elected president. We should focus on the present . . . that would be Trump. This man could easily hand our collective asses over to Putin and nuclear annihilation on some psychotic whim . . . you should be afraid of your own political manifestation.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 24, 2017 - 09:51pm PT
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Serious question: what Clinton Russia collusion?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Oct 24, 2017 - 10:00pm PT
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Putin got his candidate of choice by default . . . he would much rather deal with a simple minded man than a strong minded woman. I am not implying that he had anything to do with the US presidential election. Recent events internationally are merely the tail wagging the dog . . . NK and even Russia are bogeyman designed to distract from the real issues at hand.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 24, 2017 - 10:09pm PT
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Putin had nothing to with your st00pid rigged elections.
You brainwashed idiots are insane .....
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nah000
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now/here
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Oct 24, 2017 - 10:45pm PT
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thanks for the chomsky clip clifff... it was, as always, illuminating.
it’s going to be a black day when that guy passes.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Oct 25, 2017 - 06:27am PT
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Serious question: what Clinton Russia collusion? Just another attempt by the cowardly Trump propagandist at Breitbart/Fox to steer the attention away from their doomed idiot in the White House with a repackaged conspiracy theory. It works with the gullible, obedient base.
Meanwhile, Republican Senator's freed of the need to appeal to the whacko base in a reelection bid are speaking out and telling the nation what most of us already know: Trump is a clear and present danger to the survival of our country and the entire world.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 06:30am PT
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That’s what I suspect.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:46am PT
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Oct 24, 2017 - 09:45pm PT
Clinton? bwahhhhhhhhhh
it is 2017 dude, wake up
I met Dwain at the gathering for Blitzopalooza. Dude showed up in a tye dyed shirt. Living in the past then. Living in the past today.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Oct 25, 2017 - 09:14am PT
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Yesterday, a super-conservative Senator basically called Trump a clear and present danger to our country
correction - not one but two super conservative Senators, Jeff Flake and Bob Corker
the 50 other coward "conservative" Senators cannot, yet, as they are continuing their careers
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 25, 2017 - 09:52am PT
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Jody, remember when Ronnie Reagan was gonna be the end of us?
#thelatestbogeyman
#grouphugforlilrocketboy
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 10:45am PT
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Remember when the majority of Republicans continued to support Nixon until the day he resigned
did the majority of them come back to reality after all the corruption was revealed?
NO
we don't expect the brainwashed dullards to come around this time either,
they will be stuck with a brain filled with Fake News lies
But the fear and paranoia is getting to them obviously,
the shear desperation of them going after Hillary Now is truly insanity
You know the Russian collusion will come down on Trump soon, it's just a matter of time.
The facts don't lie:
Russia told Trump who to pick for his staff: Tillerson, Flynn, Manafort.
Aug 28, 2017 - The associate, Felix Sater, wrote a series of emails to Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, in which he boasted about his ties to Mr. Putin. ... “Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. ... “I will get Putin on this program and ...
and about another 100 Russian ties that I won't bore you with now.
Russia got what it wanted: Chaos and crisis in America
Our elections have been hacked, our Democracy broken.
So what are Fake News Reports distracting us with now? More lies about the Clintons. Will the Clinton derangement ever cease? No, it's right wing hate candy.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Oct 25, 2017 - 11:09am PT
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so, is Honey Boo Boo sill proud of his vote for the little boy President?
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John M
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Oct 25, 2017 - 12:00pm PT
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In what way is he a flake? Just curious. I do not know anything about him other then that he stood up against Trump. So what has he done other then stand up against Trump that makes him a flake?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 25, 2017 - 12:48pm PT
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This idiot is prepared to scrap this treaty
To be clear, it's not a treaty. The Senate never voted on it. The President is not entitled to enter into treaties. It's a "deal." Only a select few actually know what's in it.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 12:50pm PT
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Saw he wasn't going to be elected unless he towed the Trump line.
It wasn't Reagan it was Goldwater, who was put in his rightful place.
Extremism in the defense of Trump is a crime, not just a vice.
I have characterized Nixon as a loner, a cold man with great self-confidence and a one-track mind centered on the advancement of Richard Nixon.”
— Barry M. Goldwater
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 12:54pm PT
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Flake never supported Trump. He opposed him before the election, wrote a book early this year largely condemning him, and yesterday condemned him on the senate floor. Unlike corker, who campaigned with trump last year, and McCain, who largely enabled this crap by elevating palin and legitimizing idiocy, Flake has been steady and consistent. Nothing flakey there.
Sadly, i don’t think anything will happen as a result of Corker’s and Flake’s statements, especially as long as republicans’s precious tax cuts are attainable.
He, McCain, and corker are spot on though. This sh#t should never be normalized:
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John M
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:06pm PT
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I asked a sincere question Jody. I said that I know nothing about him. I haven't followed arizona politics.
Edit: one thing I found interesting about his resignation speech is that he said he wouldn't stand silent against Trump, but it seems to me that quitting is going to silence his voice. He voted party line on everything, so I can't figure this one out.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:10pm PT
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The damage of the Reagan Presidency is still going on.
Low wages, wealth inequality higher than ever, jobs being offshored, millions of homeless on the streets, endless wars in the Mid East,
basically almost all America's problems started with Reagan and his fascist right wing take over of all aspects of Government,
and most of his policies are still in effect
But what can be better than resurrecting Reaganomics!!
The BS tax policy that takes from the poor and gives to the rich and which has been scientifically proven to not work.
High taxes on the rich create jobs and stimulate the economy, the exact opposite of what the lying Republicans tell us.
and as we can see on these pages, the opposite of what Republicans say is the actual truth
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:13pm PT
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all America's problems started with Reagan
Well, that pretty well answers all our questions, doesn’t it?
The book I’m currently reading has John Quincy Adams saying the same thing about Thomas Jefferson.
#weneedourbogeymen!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:18pm PT
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You Republicans got more boogeymen than you can handle;; liberals, Facts, North Korea and Iran
poor little snowflakes
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:20pm PT
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High taxes on the rich create jobs and stimulate the economy...
May I suggest a book for you?
Basic Economics, by Thomas_Sowell
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:23pm PT
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Just look back to America's golden years, 1950-1970
High Taxes, high employment, high wages, good living
It's been proven over and over, no need to read someone's wrong opinion on the subject
What happened to America?
The rich took over tax policy for their own gains.
Do you really think that lowering taxes now will help anyone except the Rich?
How will it get the homeless off the streets?
How will it get me a raise?
How will it make sure that the Gov. has the funds ready for the next $100 billion catastrophe?
We all know what's going on, the Koch's and Mercers want more welfare, and they paid all the necessary bribes to get their tax cuts, screw America, just lie about how these tax cuts will be like magic dust and do something they could never do before, but now they will.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:31pm PT
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no need to read...
Magna c#m Laude from Harvard.
Masters from Columbia.
Doctrate from University of Chicago.
Currently Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford.
Yep. No need to read.
Do you think anyone actually paid the nominal rates in the 50's, 60's, 70's?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:35pm PT
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Read Paul Krugman, Nobel Prize winner in Economics
No one paid the highest rates because they took lower salaries and put the money back into the business, or they illegally hid their money
The high tax rates were on purpose to maintain a wealth equality.
Wealth was shared and liberally used to build this country to it's current state, we are just borrowing from the what the past provided.
-"Currently Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution" I think this may tell us something about your author, it's a conservative think tank
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John M
climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:40pm PT
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Nobel Prize winner in Economics
Henry Kissinger got a nobel peace prize.
The man who devised the lobotomy got a nobel prize for that.
As for what Kris wrote.
Magna c#m Laude from Harvard.
Masters from Columbia.
Doctrate from University of Chicago.
Currently Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford.
means he is smart.
Doesn't mean he is wise.
The wealthiest mostly don't pay income tax. They pay capital gains taxes. Those have gone down in recent years. Driving up debt and not creating jobs.
The wealthy are wealthier then they have ever been. So where are the jobs? I thought the low tax people said the wealthy would create jobs if we just helped them to not pay taxes.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:46pm PT
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Just in case you don't feel like reading...
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:50pm PT
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I already debunked that graph a couple years ago with crack addict,
the blue line is the AVERAGE rate, not the actual rate of the year
I found another graph that showed the rates going up and down with the tax rate.
I trust Krugman, you trust conservative heritage inst. think tank manipulated "fake" facts.
Lowering tax rates on the rich has been proven to not help the economy, to not create jobs, and to just raise the National debt; fact.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:53pm PT
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Magna c#m Laude from Harvard.
Masters from Columbia.
Doctrate from University of Chicago.
and I always get the Final Jeopardy answer correct.
Come on, Kris. Sole is an Uncle Tom.
As my momma always says, one can be good at book learnin', but it doesn't mean they have horse sense.
btw, were you impressed when Obama became the first black president of the Harvard Law Review?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:57pm PT
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Kris, technically Krugman isn’t a hack, he’s a shill, for the School of Economic Nihilism.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 25, 2017 - 01:58pm PT
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Come on, Kris. Sole is an Uncle Tom.
I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.
Craig, looks pretty clear to me, and it's based on the IRS' own figures.
Edit: On second thought, why the racialism? His ideas have more or less relevance because he's not white?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 02:17pm PT
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I just read Uncle Tom's Cabin a couple of months ago. So, I can't figure out why "Uncle Tom" is used as an insult. Uncle Tom chose death rather than take the white man's side and betray his people.
How do these things get so mixed up?
BTW, it's proven empirically that cutting taxes kills the economy. Remember 2007?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 25, 2017 - 02:29pm PT
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When the likes of Limbaugh, and Hannity(the two biggest frauds on radio) praise Thomas Sole, what does that tell you?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 25, 2017 - 02:41pm PT
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Gary, there were so many mistakes coming out of the Bush administration that trying to pin the market losses on a tax decrease for the rich is a stretch. A 3.9% cut for the top 1% did not crash the economy.
A big part of what got the ball rolling was hugely leveraged hedge funds, a fundamental of many pension plans. As soon as the market started to go down these funds had no choice but to sell off huge numbers of good stocks in order to pay the banks. This drove down the value of many market staples, and it happened fast. Then computer trading went off the rails. To this day no one wants to talk about regulating the amount of debt. vs assets a hedge fund can hold.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 25, 2017 - 02:44pm PT
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I don't pay any attention to Limbaugh and Hannity, but I do read Thomas Sowell. Have you?
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Oct 25, 2017 - 02:53pm PT
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+1 Kris
That was a unique time in history with a true upward and persistent shift in value creation with the DotCom era, but lots of rampant and misplaced speculation that caused a bubble and crash of the stock market, and subsequent mass migration of wealth to speculative investment real estate, a rash of high risk loans happening along the way to enable more highly leveraged assets, and an unregulated financial industry that could hide the high-risk nature of the highly leveraged investments while selling the high returns until the inevitable crash.
In that context around 2007-2008, the tax policies on the rich were less of a culprit than the laxness in financial regulations (a more effective way for government to be manipulated to help the rich than tax breaks). We had a round of lesson-learning in the following years, and a decade later the lessons are forgotten by the masses and it's all being reversed now so we can repeat the cycle. But the rich folks remember how the lack of regulations helped them get richer when the getting was good, while avoiding accountability for the risk by letting tax payers pay the inevitable bill.
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Jon Beck
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Oceanside
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Oct 25, 2017 - 04:04pm PT
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Then there is the Kansas experiment
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/10/25/sam-brownback-kansas-tax-cuts
President Trump's top legislative priority is overhauling the tax system. Some critics say the GOP plan echoes the tax cut experiment implemented by Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback in 2012. According to Brownback, the so-called Kansas experiment was supposed to be a "shot of adrenaline" to the state's economy by dramatically cutting income taxes and eliminating "pass-through" small business taxes.
But growth stalled, revenue fell and infrastructure and education services suffered. Now, the state faces a budget shortfall of more than $800 million. Here & Now's Jeremy Hobson (@jeremyhobson) takes a look at what happened to the economy in Kansas, and how politics in the state has shifted as a result.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 04:11pm PT
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Limbaugh’s virtuosic three hours of daily talk started bringing a sociopolitical alternate reality to a huge national audience. Instead of relying on an occasional magazine or newsletter to confirm your gnarly view of the world, now you had talk radio drilling it into your head for hours every day.
How America Went Haywire
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231/
"In the digital age... every tribe and fiefdom and principality and region of Fantasyland — every screwball with a computer and an internet connection— suddenly had an unprecedented way to instruct and rile up and mobilize believers, and to recruit more."
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 04:50pm PT
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"I have been paying close attention to Donald Trump for a long time. Spy magazine, which I co-founded in 1986 and edited until 1993, published three cover stories about him—and dozens of pages exposing and ridiculing his lies, brutishness, and absurdity. Now everybody knows what we knew. Donald Trump is a grifter driven by resentment of the establishment. He doesn’t like experts, because they interfere with his right as an American to believe or pretend that fictions are facts, to feel the truth. He sees conspiracies everywhere. He exploited the myths of white racial victimhood. His case of what I call Kids R Us syndrome—spoiled, impulsive, moody, a 71-year-old brat—is acute." -Kurt Andersen
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231/
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Splater
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Grey Matter
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Oct 25, 2017 - 05:03pm PT
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The estate tax was already adjusted to reasonable levels and only applies to inheritance over $5.5 million ($11 million for couples).
So no small business or family farm is affected.
Cutting estate taxes for the upper .001% is just a giveaway.
Remember most of this wealth has never been taxed.
Take Bill Gates. Worth $100 billion on paper in stock. Stock that has never been taxed. It would only be taxed if he ever sold it. Say Bill & Melinda die and the offspring inherit the $100 billion. Why would you make this transfer tax free? Why shouldn't they contribute significantly to a society that allowed the opportunity for such wealth?
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Splater
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Grey Matter
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Oct 25, 2017 - 05:07pm PT
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Why, as Warren Buffet asks, should his tax rate bracket of 20% (all investment income) be much lower than someone who makes $120K per year of earned income and whose tax rate bracket is 28% plus 15.6% Soc Sec + Medicare?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Oct 25, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
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the hatred and bigotry against white males is just terrible lately
isn't it, Honey Boo Boo
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yosemite 5.9
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santa cruz
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Oct 25, 2017 - 05:37pm PT
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I noticed that the cited report is from CNN. The Clinton National Network. What do you expect?
The POTUS's twitter has 39 million followers, including me. Read it if you want the truth from someone who has a positive attitude about this country can accomplish.
If you don't like him, your party should have supported someone other than dirty Hilary.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 05:43pm PT
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Brilliant
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 05:46pm PT
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CNN. The Clinton National Network. What do you expect? Fake News, just because they start with a "C", can you be any more .....
Clinton has no money in any network.
Got any more BS we can debunk?
all you Hillary haters need to tell us who you endorse next time....
The Russian's/tea party/ fascists/ neo-Nazis/billionaire fossil fuel controllers of the GOP/illuminati will take note.
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WBraun
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Oct 25, 2017 - 05:54pm PT
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CNN, NYT & Washington Post, etc = stupid brainwashed Cráňkl00n News Network
All st00pid brainwashed corporate tools .....
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yosemite 5.9
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santa cruz
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Oct 25, 2017 - 06:35pm PT
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Wbraun. You can do better at your analysis. Your recent posts only show negativity. Please expand upon your thoughts. I still admire how you rescued that kid in the rain and falling rocks below Yosemite Falls. I know you can do better here.
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yosemite 5.9
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santa cruz
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Oct 25, 2017 - 06:36pm PT
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WBraun, I met a friend of yours in Tuolumne a few weeks ago. We laughed about how you staged a boom box in your hand on Reed's Direct.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 06:55pm PT
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The Doctrine of Trumpal Infallibility
Paul Krugman OCT. 23, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/23/opinion/federal-reserve-john-taylor.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fpaul-krugman&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection&_r=1
Last week John Kelly, the White House chief of staff, tried to defend President Trump against charges that he was grossly insensitive to the widow of a U.S. soldier killed in action. In the process, Kelly accused Frederica Wilson, the member of Congress and friend of the soldier’s family who reported what Trump had said, of having behaved badly previously during the dedication of an F.B.I. building.
Video of the dedication shows, however, that Kelly’s claim was false, and that Representative Wilson’s remarks at the ceremony were entirely appropriate. So Kelly, a former general and a man of honor, admitted his error and apologized profusely.
See? I made a joke!
In reality, of course, Kelly has neither admitted error nor apologized. Instead, the White House declared that it’s unpatriotic to criticize generals — which, aside from being a deeply un-American position, is ludicrous given the many times Donald Trump has done just that.
But we are living in the age of Trumpal infallibility: We are ruled by men who never admit error, never apologize and, crucially, never learn from their mistakes. Needless to say, men who think admitting error makes you look weak just keep making bigger mistakes; delusions of infallibility eventually lead to disaster, and one can only hope that the disasters ahead don’t bring catastrophe for all of us.
The truth is that what I’m calling Trumpal infallibility — the insistence on clinging to false ideas and refuted claims, no matter what — is a disease that infested the modern Republican Party long before Trump. And one of the areas where the symptoms are especially severe is monetary policy.
What it has inspired is a descent into increasingly strange reasons the Fed should raise rates despite low inflation. Easy money, he declared, was part of a conspiracy to “bail out fiscal policy,” that is, an effort to help President Barack Obama. Or maybe it was like the monetary equivalent of rent control, discouraging lending the way rent control discourages building apartments — a bizarre analysis that had colleagues scratching their heads.
What these ever-odder interventions had in common was that they always offered some reason wrong was right — why Taylor had been right to warn against easy-money policies even though higher inflation, the problem he predicted as a result of these policies, never materialized. And never, ever, an admission that maybe something was wrong with his initial analysis.
Again, everyone makes forecast errors. If you’re consistently wrong, that should certainly count against your credibility; track records matter. But it’s much worse if you can never bring yourself to admit past errors and learn from them.
That kind of behavior makes it all too likely that you’ll keep making the same mistakes; but more than that, it shows something wrong with your character. And men with that character flaw should never be placed in positions of policy responsibility.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:03pm PT
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The Donald has 39 million twitter followers?
wow, that must mean he is really cool, smart, and will make Merika great again
does that same logic work on Facebook?
the more little friends you accept when you push the button the greater you are?
hey, I know a guy who helped a little old lady across the street, he must know a lot about French Literature
gonna finally graduate high school this year?
get that other turd licker back here, where did he go?
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WBraun
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:14pm PT
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Wbraun. You can do better at your analysis.
My analysis is 100% spot on.
My consciousness is expanded far beyond those st00pid American corporate brainwashed tools masquerading themselves as news and press .....
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:19pm PT
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My analysis is 100% spot on.
My consciousness is expanded far beyond those st00pid American corporate brainwashed tools masquerading themselves as news and press ..... OK Herr Braun the great....
you know all
just like trump and all the other authoritarian leaders
who knows better than you that the real news is fake
like the faked moon landing
and all the other false flags the fake news tries to tell us
please tell us again how stoopid we are
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:20pm PT
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I remember , not that long ago , when George W. lowered taxes on the rich promising it would stimulate the economy and help out every American by a miracle called the trickle down theory...Remember...? I do ...Wall Street tanked and lots of hard working Americans lost their live savings...What happened to the trickle down miracle...? There's millions of idiots with Phd's. and masters in economics...Don't mean sh#t...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:29pm PT
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Bush
Bold TextJust goes to prove that privatization was not taken far enough.
Had it been allowed to go full bore all the poor suckers would have volunteered for the Mars trips and wouldn't be askin WTF NOW
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yosemite 5.9
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santa cruz
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:31pm PT
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FYI, as a CPA for thirty years, I am well aware that George W.Bush was the only president to order rebates to be sent out by the IRS to low inocome taxpayers at least twice, maybe three times to boost the economy.
There was no trickle down by him. It was trickle up by him. He also eliminated the "marriage penalty" that taxed married couples more than two single persons. He deeply cared about low income taxpayers.
He was the friendliest president ever for low income individual tax payers. Ronald Regan came into office with good changes to taxes for small businesses, but his trickle down theory can certainly be debated. President Clinton made some intelligent tax moves also. George H. Bush was out of touch on just about everything.
Obama and the Democrats have since increased taxes, creating two new taxes through Obamacare, the investment tax and the medicare tax. These only apply to married couples or individuals with $250,000 or more in taxable income. But at such, it is a return to the marriage penalty if you are married. That is, these new taxes kick twice as fast if you are married. I can't recall at the moment that Obama and the Democrats have done much at all for low income taxpayers. Their agenda seems to be to build their vision of a better society, regardless of the costs, and regardless of how they raise taxes, and finally, regardless of how an individual might want to spend his or her hard-earned money. Utopia would be nice, but who is going to pay for it? I see the very high tax burden on many individuals. It is no laughing matter. Taxes in this country are extremely high.
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yosemite 5.9
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santa cruz
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:35pm PT
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Norton, have you bothered to read the POTUS's twitter? You might consider it as it is directly from President Trump.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 25, 2017 - 07:36pm PT
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Y5.9
Maybe you want to enlist a proof reader. Your message up thread is a bit confusing
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healyje
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Portland, Oregon
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Oct 26, 2017 - 01:50am PT
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The extinction of the last White RINOS - the monsters that remain are their creations.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oct 26, 2017 - 04:27am PT
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Oct 26, 2017 - 06:50am PT
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Impeach Hillary...!!
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Oct 26, 2017 - 07:32am PT
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Norton, have you
bothered to read the POTUS's twitter? You might consider it as it is directly from President Trump.
um, really?
you mean when someone signs up for twitter that they actually get to say stuff?
wow, I never knew
this is your year, study hard and get that high school GED
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 26, 2017 - 08:59am PT
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The NY Times has had several interesting articles and Op Ed pieces the last couple of days about Trump and his relationship with the Republican party. Rather than rebut Trump, some moderates are just retiring from the party, leaving the party to those who made a Faustian bargain with Trump to further Republican policies or those too retarded to see what a horror show it is. Actually, the use of the word "retarded" is an insult to those who actually suffer from mental deficiencies when comparing them to Republicans who support Trump. I for one am over trying to discuss things such as "facts" with them. The same mental deficiency which did not permit them to see just how horrible a person and politician Trump was also prevent them from acknowledging those same flaws now. As someone commented in the NY Times:
I honestly don't know how my Republican friends can still call themselves Republicans. In supporting this president the true essence of the Republican voter is revealed and it is not pretty. $175,000,000.oo to renovate the White House...fine. Voting against class action suits against banks that have broken the law...fine. Going back on our word and agreements with our allies....fine. Throwing out the children of immigrants even if born here...fine. Doing away with special education...fine. Tormenting young widow of fallen soldier...fine. Doing away with clean air and water...fine. Cutting a trillion dollars out of medicaid and medicare...fine..and on and on. The things that they are ok with define them...why would anyone with a social conscience want anything to do with them?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 26, 2017 - 09:13am PT
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^^^^it's all about pushing the republican agenda. However, they fear that their agenda might be short lived.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 26, 2017 - 09:23am PT
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The Republican agenda is the same as it ever was, lie about what your intentions are as you give welfare to the billionaire donors at the expense of the Nation and it's people.
Take away freedoms and choice, throw as many people in jail or into poverty as possible, demonize and lie about the other side, promote bigotry, racism and division
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 26, 2017 - 09:32am PT
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hey libs, try a red paper for a change...
You can say he’s “not my president” all you like, but he is anyway, and this is the country you live in, and he’s more powerful than you, and his behavior establishes precedents.
"..everyone distressed by the Trump phenomenon will not achieve a greater understanding of it if they continue to comfort themselves by arguing he’s not the new normal."
http://nypost.com/2017/10/25/sorry-sen-flake-trump-is-the-new-normal/
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 26, 2017 - 09:36am PT
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This is what right wingers do, harass normal people with death threats after they are fed lies and conspiracy theories by the right wing media
Las Vegas shooting
'I hope someone truly shoots you': online conspiracy theorists harass Vegas victims
Those who lived to describe the mass shooting face flood of abuse on social media accusing them of being actors, as hoax claims flourish on YouTube
Thursday 26 October 2017 03.01 EDT Last modified on Thursday 26 October 2017 04.56 EDT
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/26/las-vegas-shooting-conspiracy-theories-social-media
Braden Matejka survived a bullet to the head in the Las Vegas massacre. Then, the death threats started coming.
“You are a lying piece of sh#t and I hope someone truly shoots you in the head,” a commenter wrote to Matejka on Facebook, one week after a gunman killed 58 people and injured hundreds more. “Your soul is disgusting and dark! You will pay for the consequences!” said another. A Facebook meme quickly spread with a photo of him after the shooting, captioned: “I’m a lying c#&%!”
The 30-year-old victim – who narrowly escaped death in the worst mass shooting in modern US history – has faced a torrent of online abuse and harassment, forcing him to shut down his social media accounts and disappear from the internet. The bullying, taunting and graphic threats have also spread to his family and friends.
This cannot be the new normal
and anything from the NY Post is probably BS anyway
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 26, 2017 - 11:02am PT
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hey libs, try a red paper for a change.. Hey Commie, how about reading the U.S Constitution. He's a President and the head of an equal branch of government, not a dictator, as much as Trumpites will argue to the contrary. I know it's a lot to comprehend, but please try. Your country is depending on you.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Oct 26, 2017 - 01:36pm PT
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"red" as in Republican, silly.
I suggested it because it's reasonably written
I know it's a lot to comprehend, but please try.
lol
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Oct 26, 2017 - 03:41pm PT
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I suggested it because it's reasonably written I didn't say Commie because of the word "red"; it's because so many on the right fall back on this Stalinesque type support for Trump, the whole 'he's in charge so suck it up buttercup' thing. His supporters act like we don't have a right to question him or even disagree with him.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Oct 26, 2017 - 03:58pm PT
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the hatred and bigotry against white males is just terrible lately
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Oct 27, 2017 - 01:25pm PT
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That's Tom Steyer, a billionaire, he paid for the ad
I like him, he stands up for what's good, and has the money to help fund good things
We need more liberal billionaires like him
it takes money to fight against Big moneyed interests
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Oct 27, 2017 - 01:26pm PT
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Why NOT have the man who is funding the campaign be in the video!?
Seems straightforward and honest to me. I think Tom Steyer has integrity.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 27, 2017 - 01:26pm PT
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Why'd they get that tired boomer to do the ad...
He paid for it.
Tom Steyer. Net worth around $1.6B. He's doing this to build up name recognition so he can primary Dianne Feinstein. Should be quite a show, his 1.6 billion against her measly 700 million...
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Oct 27, 2017 - 01:41pm PT
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and speaking of money
the grabber in chief lost 500 million dollars last year, per Forbes
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 27, 2017 - 03:58pm PT
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I like him, he stands up for what's good, and has the money to help fund good things
Murderers are good, if they're down with the cause.
Dems can't do any better than Steyer?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Oct 27, 2017 - 04:10pm PT
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Steyer made his money as a hedge fund manager. If he was in the business in 2008 he was part of a feeding frenzy based on greed and deception that nearly cratered our financial system.
If he runs and gets to the Senate he will be the wealthiest person in Congress. I'm sure he'll be all about the average American.
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Splater
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Grey Matter
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Oct 27, 2017 - 05:13pm PT
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There is a massive chasm between people like Steyer/Gates/Chouinard and a--holes like the kochs/ waltons/ forbes/ trumps/ goldmans/ murdock/ loeb/ singer.
One group tries to improve the world with their wealth.
The other tries to f*#k over the world to make another billion for their own pocket.
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dirtbag
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Oct 27, 2017 - 05:14pm PT
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Steyer is an imperfect messenger, but he’s trying to spur a discussion that very much needs to be had.
I personally would not support impeachment at this point: the cure of removing trump would not be preferable to the malady. Impeachment would rip apart this country. But god damnit I am appalled and outraged at all the legal and ethical violations happening in the White House daily, and a congress that enables all of it. Paul Ryan, McConnell and others can all eat sh#t.
We have a narcissistic, unhinged, and even dangerous conman in the White house, and we need to have a frank discussion about how to make things right, and it ain’t happening in Congress. In the meantime, good for Steyer for pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 27, 2017 - 06:39pm PT
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Mercer is a hedge fund guy
Will Bannon run him against Steyer
Who did he kill
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WBraun
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Oct 27, 2017 - 07:03pm PT
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Just see the brainwashing čřánkl00n handwringing here.
They are so happy to be more brainwashed than ever ......
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 27, 2017 - 07:11pm PT
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Impeachment would be a yuge sh!tshow only suited to the North Beach whips and leather crowd and only beneficial to the scum sucking lawyers who would be the leading drag queens, not that I don’t appreciate a good drag queen, mind you.
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nature
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Boulder, CO
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Oct 27, 2017 - 08:24pm PT
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Ставки на который предатель идет вниз в понедельник? Manafort или Флинн? Или и то, и другое.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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“Wipe the Soviet Union Off the Map”, 204 Atomic Bombs against 66 Major Cities, US Nuclear Attack against USSR Planned During World War II When America and the Soviet Union Were Allies
The document outlining this diabolical military agenda had been released in September 1945, barely one month after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (6 and 9 August, 1945) and two years before the onset of the Cold War (1947).
The secret plan dated September 15, 1945 (two weeks after the surrender of Japan on September 2, 1945 aboard the USS Missouri, see image below) , however, had been formulated at an earlier period, namely at the height of World War II, at a time when America and the Soviet Union were close allies.
The Kremlin was aware of the 1945 plan to bomb sixty-six Soviet cities.
The documents confirm that the US was involved in the “planning of genocide” against the Soviet Union.
Moreover, central to our understanding of the Cold War which started in 1947, Washington’s September 1945 plan to bomb 66 cities into smithereens played a key role in triggering the nuclear arms race.
The Soviet Union was threatened and developed its own atomic bomb in 1949. While the Kremlin knew about these plans to “Wipe out” the USSR, the broader public was not informed because the documents were of course classified.
Today, neither the 1945 plan to blow up the Soviet Union nor the underlying cause of the nuclear arms race are acknowledged. The Western media has largely focussed its attention on the Cold War US-USSR confrontation. The plan to annihilate the Soviet Union dating back to World War II and the infamous Manhattan project are not mentioned.
Washington’s Cold War nuclear plans are invariably presented in response to so-called Soviet threats, when in fact it was the U.S. September 1945 plan to wipe out the Soviet which motivated Moscow to develop its nuclear weapons capabilities.
Had the US decided not to develop nuclear weapons for use against the Soviet Union, the nuclear arms race would not have taken place. Neither The Soviet Union nor the People’s Republic of China would have developed nuclear capabilities as a means of “Deterrence”.
The Soviet Union lost 26 million people during World War II.
The USSR developed its own atomic bomb in 1949, in response to 1942 Soviet intelligence reports on the Manhattan Project.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/wipe-the-ussr-off-the-map-204-atomic-bombs-against-major-cities-us-nuclear-attack-against-soviet-union-planned-prior-to-end-of-world-war-ii/5616601
What distinguishes the October 1962 Missile Crisis to Today’s realities:
1. Today’s president Donald Trump does not have the foggiest idea as to the consequences of nuclear war.
2, Communication today between the White House and the Kremlin is at an all time low. In contrast, in October 1962, the leaders on both sides, namely John F. Kennedy and Nikita S. Khrushchev were accutely aware of the dangers of nuclear annihilation. They collaborated with a view to avoiding the unthinkable.
3. The nuclear doctrine was entirely different during the Cold War. Both Washington and Moscow understood the realities of mutually assured destruction. Today, tactical nuclear weapons with an explosive capacity (yield) of one third to six times a Hiroshima bomb are categorized by the Pentagon as “harmless to civilians because the explosion is underground”.
4. A one trillion ++ nuclear weapons program, first launched under Obama, is ongoing.
5. Today’s thermonuclear bombs are more than 100 times more powerful and destructive than a Hiroshima bomb. Both the US and Russia have several thousand nuclear weapons deployed.
Moreover, an all out war against China is currently on the drawing board of the Pentagon as outlined by a RAND Corporation Report commissioned by the US Army
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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A lot of people aren't in love with Trump, that's fine and I don't love the guy myself.
But you have to admit, the market's never been higher, the economy's doing well, he's kind of got "little rocketman" backing down (although the jury's still out on that one) . . . why rock the boat?
We'll have an election in 3 years, and if more people vote for Dem (strike that--if more electors vote for the Dem), we can all say how happy we are to be rid of the fiend (as we're all, hopefully, filthy rich with all the money we've made in the market!).
If Trump's our biggest problem we're doing pretty well.
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c wilmot
climber
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Really dig your posts Tom Cochrane. thanks for sharing
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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i didn't write that article and i only quoted a few excerpts and it's not my place to defend it
i do hope you will follow the link and read the article carefully, as some comments seem to be a misread i.e. are you reading numbers of weapons or dollars?
the original article includes images of the original documents upon which the article is based
i think there is some major basic missing information in the knowledge base of the general public, and this article only fills in a few of the blanks
Here's a basic question from me, for which learning the deep answer may explain much of what is going on in the world today. There are lots of superficial answers that are not adequate to explain the depth of the hatred. If I just dropped the answer in your lap, you would very probably not have the historical background to know what I'm even talking about. So you have to do your own research on it.
Why Russia is being so heavily demonized, then and now?
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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don't shoot the messenger
this article has reproductions of some very interesting documents that have not been general knowledge
whether or not the authors analysis of them is totally accurate is for each of us to judge for ourselves
i post things that i think are worth looking at, not at all assuming that everything should be taken as absolute verified facts
i question everything
you should also question everything, certainly including me
incidentally, i have been directly involved in the nuclear weapons maintenance programs for DOE and am well aware of the degradation problems and the treaty constraints placed for not doing active testing
laboratory testing and computer modeling are being used in attempts to make up for active testing and i wrote the DOE lab protocol for dealing with degraded plutonium test articles
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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If he runs and gets to the Senate he will be the wealthiest person in Congress. I'm sure he'll be all about the average American.
That may be true, but his wealth pales in comparison to trump cabinet members. You know, the ones who relate to the working poor.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Trump is doing a great job. His job is to distract your attention from what is important.
When a number like a trillion dollars is mentioned, it has little to do with accounting practices, but is basically an announcement that the Fed is providing a blank check to support a particular activity
the nuclear weapons that the public knows about were a shocking breakthrough when they were first revealed, but there are several subsequent similarly important developments that the public is unaware of; so it is practically irrelevant to compare some of the modern weapons with those original nukes as they can be used right under your nose and you won't even know what you are looking at
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WBraun
climber
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Why Russia is being so heavily demonized, then and now?
This one is the easiest of em all.
The real criminals always the point at someone else (Russia).
But the st00pid politards here all believe the horsesh!t the CIA is projecting thru the Washington Post and NYT that Russia is the problem.
St00pid brainwashed Americans ...
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nah000
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now/here
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hey Mighty Hiker:
it’s poorly written for sure, and i’m not arguing for or against the article as a whole... but your main point of contention regarding the “one trillion ++” line is null and void if one understands it to be referring to the cost of obama’s nuclear refurbishment program... as this has been estimated by u.s. government departments to cost more than one trillion over the next thirty years. this number was reported by the new york times in 2014 [although at that point it was just under a trillion] and many other sources since then, as the estimated cost has continued to rise [one online source said 1.3-1.5 trillion dollars over the next thirty years according to more recent post-trump government calculations]
again not arguing for the article as a whole, i just found it interesting that, however sensationalized [by not giving the thirty year time frame] the original article was, it did have a kernel of truth to at least that part if they had just written the all important word “dollars”.
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yosemite 5.9
climber
santa cruz
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Nov 10, 2017 - 09:41pm PT
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Splater makes some good points. The current estate tax begins at almost six million dollars only. Almost twelve for a married couple. Redistribution of wealth above those amounts might be justifiable, except that the tax goes to the federal government, not to low income people. And self-employed people are taxed extremely high in this country.
Our federal government seems to be incapable of making timely decisions. We all only live so long. Most of us have only a few decades of being our most productive in our economy. While our congress wastes our money and dickers endlessly many of us see our lives passing by.
Here in California we are wasting money on a bullet train from nowhere to nowhere. Meanwhile our levees are inadequate against floods. I see a lot of money spent here in Santa Cruz on installing bumpy yellow metal plates at the sidewalk corners. I guess they are for the blind. But the cost of them is very high. Ripping out concrete and then pouring fresh concrete to accommodate the metal plates can't be the best use of our money. There are many homeless here with obvious mental illnesses that would be better served with the money that is spent on concrete.
Along with the slow response of our government and the waste of our money, the root source of many of our problems seems to be mental illness. So much stupidity at such high costs. President Clinton sought to improve training for people needing jobs and thereby he showed some understanding of this root source of so many problems.
We have high taxes, only President Trump has the faith that we can do better than 3% annual GDP growth, our government wastes so much of our paychecks while time slips by and the never ending epidemic of mental illness broadly through our society is generally disregarded.
I don't have the answers. But paying high taxes doesn't seem to be part of the solution.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 11, 2017 - 06:44am PT
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I don't have the answers. But paying high taxes doesn't seem to be part of the solution.
For one thing, we could tell the Pentagon to f*#k off. We could stop flushing money down that rat hole and use it wisely instead.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 11, 2017 - 08:02am PT
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That's as likely as Gloria La Riva winning the next election.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 11, 2017 - 08:38am PT
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all well and fine, but the really good news is that Paris Hilton will not have to pay inheritance tax on all that hotel money coming her way
I can't remember, help me out fellow Republicans, is it because she should be honored as a "job creator"?
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Nov 11, 2017 - 09:09am PT
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In a perfect world, in an utopia, life would not be adversarial, tribalism would not exist.
But in reality there are adversaries, right? And one could argue that North Korea and ISIS are America’s top adversaries.
Once could also put the case forward that Russia is the biggest adversary to the US, and if so, when the president of the US appears to side with Putin and believes him over the US intelligence community (who are no angels themselves), one has to wonder where Trump’s true allegiances lie.
Think about it.
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Nov 11, 2017 - 09:20am PT
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True, Patrick
one could also argue that North Korea and ISIS are easily contained
and that the one real threat to America is the Republican party
who stands proudly against almost everything most Americans claim to be for
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Patrick Sawyer
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Nov 11, 2017 - 09:33am PT
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Having now read through all the posts on this thread so far, I have to agree with those who say that impeachment would even further divide America and would probably be a sh#t show.
I do not know how to rid the US of this cancerous malevolent person who sits in the White House. I can only hope that he sees out his term with little damage to the country and indeed the world. He will probably have lined his pockets, but can only hope he is not re-elected, which is a possibility. If he goes for re-election one can only hope for a landslide against him. Hmmm.
I can only hope that indeed America is stronger than this man or his cohort, and that we indeed do have a checks and balances that is healthy and works.
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I for one would like to see the US on good terms with Russia (who I do not necessarily see as a bogeyman). In fact with all nations. But that is not the reality.
One can point the finger at the US, Russia, MSM, etc etc, but my experience is that life is not a one-way street.
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Nov 11, 2017 - 09:47am PT
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Patrick, agreed
as good of a Democrat and as well "qualified" from past political office holdings Hillary was, she had two big thing going against her
she was a women, and a lot of men have a real problem with that
her last name was Clinton, and family Presidential dynasties in America ended with the Bushes
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Gary
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Nov 11, 2017 - 02:08pm PT
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That's as likely as Gloria La Riva winning the next election.
Your defeatist attitude is what enables the current disfunction in American politics.
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yosemite 5.9
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santa cruz
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Nov 29, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
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Regarding Trump and Putin.
President Lincoln said something to the effect of the best way to get rid of your enemies is to make them your friends.
Also, When they are your friends, it is easier to keep your eye on them.
Don't underestimate that Trump knows what he is doing. He knows what cards to show and how to play the game.
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