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NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 3, 2017 - 10:46pm PT
Summary warning signs:
1. Look for a broken sticker/seal on the pump that indicates it may have been tampered with.
2. If you have a smartphone, turn on Bluetooth and look for connections near the pumps with the ID "HC-05". This is a tell-tale sign (but probably not the only one) of a skimmer device designed to steal credit card numbers

Good reading here for those technically inclined.
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/gas-pump-skimmers

Note this is an easy attack a hacker can do in 30 seconds to compromise a gas pump. They basically open the pump case and put a device in-line with the credit card reader (nothing externally visible), and then later come back to harvest all the credit card numbers over a bluetooth connection.

L

climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
Oct 4, 2017 - 02:59pm PT
Oh god...do I have to do this sort of stuff?

I have enough trouble just pumping gas.




















Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Oct 4, 2017 - 03:09pm PT
wow, good advice, NutAgain
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 4, 2017 - 03:16pm PT
How do you open the pump case without a key and do all that in 30 seconds?

Paying with cash is the safest but, of course, the gubmint wants to do away with cash. They've already started to in Europe.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Oct 4, 2017 - 03:29pm PT
No, Gubmints don't want to do away with cash. Gubmints want to do away with taxpayers with cash in the marketplace.

Oh man, I'd like a cigarette after how free I feel after this post...
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Oct 4, 2017 - 03:33pm PT
How do you open the pump case without a key and do all that in 30 seconds?

Ethan Hunt





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NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2017 - 04:09pm PT
Last month I had an unauthorized charge for over $2000 on my credit card to some vendor I never heard of. It's war out there!

https://www.google.com/search?q=gas+pump+credit+card+skimmer&source=lnms&tbm=isch

http://abc13.com/tag/skimming/

phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Oct 4, 2017 - 04:23pm PT
I think one of the easiest things to do is to have one credit card with a low limit that you only use in "suspect" places - new to you internet sites, smaller restaurants, and gas stations in general.
And keep your "main" credit card for exclusive use for your reoccurring monthly charges and trusted vendors. And yes, my credit cards are stored in a RFID blocking sleeve.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 4, 2017 - 04:33pm PT
^^^
Yup, both the wife and I have been bit by these crooks.
Maybe it's time to take all our $$$ outta the bank, bury it somewhere in the yard and only do cash transactions for everything.:(

Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Oct 4, 2017 - 05:36pm PT
Maybe its time we voted with our feet AND at the ballot box and elect some sonsofbitches that will secure the electronic marketplace for safe commerce. You know, instead of bullet trains, water theft, wars and petty goddamn partisan bullshit squabbles.

Now how about that? The US Congress, of either party, has done nothing to fix this. Nothing!

For starters? Double authitentication for ALL electronic payments. No exceptions. And hard jail time for the c-level execs that allow the theft of personal data. Instead of the ridiculous task of trying to recognize skimmers at the pump. You can't so forget about it. The problem lies with VISA, Mastercard , Amex, et al. Regulate them and enforce it. The EU did it years Go and your representatives in the US haven't done sh#t.

DMT
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Oct 4, 2017 - 05:57pm PT
But Dingus, If you impose political scrutiny on legal loan sharks, it will take more than 25,000 points at $ 100.00 borrowed for every point, to earn that free toaster and celebrate as a member of the credit community.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 4, 2017 - 06:03pm PT
elect some sonsofbitches that will secure the electronic marketplace for safe commerce. You know, instead of bullet trains, water theft, wars and petty goddamn partisan bullshit squabbles.

Sounds good to me,
want the gig DMT?
I'd vote for ya. :)
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 4, 2017 - 06:47pm PT
Senator Milktoast from California...Nice ring to it...
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Oct 4, 2017 - 06:57pm PT
pay cash. after robbing bank
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Oct 4, 2017 - 07:02pm PT

Governor DMT

I'll vote.
another nickname

Social climber
Yazoo Ms
Oct 4, 2017 - 07:30pm PT
It all gets back to the conspiracy regarding Lyme disease!
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Oct 4, 2017 - 08:28pm PT
Unfortunately, Bluetooth is just one of many methods used to transmit data from skimmers. Text messaging, infrared, connections using transfer rods.....

Covering your hand when you input your PIN can protect it, as long as the keypad doesn't have an "overlay".

Brian Krebs has lots of details on these methods:

https://krebsonsecurity.com/?s=skimmer&x=6&y=12

https://krebsonsecurity.com/page/2/?s=skimmer&x=6&y=12

VVVV JIm has a great solution! Just make sure you get your cash from a teller or from a safe ATM in a bank.... and thebravecowboy is ahead of us all when it comes to personal security.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Oct 4, 2017 - 08:32pm PT
Pay cash money for everything.
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 4, 2017 - 08:47pm PT
I don't even pay for gas. I just display my piece and say, politely, this is on the house right?

Or sometimes

Esto es libremente correcto
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Oct 4, 2017 - 09:33pm PT
PREZIDENTE DING DING !!!!

I can't vote fer ya but I'll help you with yer cam pain slogans.


DING DING DING VOTe VOTE VOTE !!!


GOT Milk ? Got TOAST !? YER TOAST ! MILKTOAST FER PREZ !
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