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fear
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hartford, ct
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this was a well planned coordinated military operation
Well, a lot of things don't add up, but it certainly wasn't a "military" operation. Some sociopaths in the darker off-budget recesses of three letter agencies sure.... The speed at which "facts" are broadcast is the tell of fabrication. Like how the FBI claimed there were no ties to anything overseas within 12 hours and his girlfriend wasn't involved, before they had even been in this unknown guy's house.
Sure is curious who Steven really was. We'll never know now that history will likely be scrubbed clean and rewritten post haste. He had a lot of cash to blow for a nobody. Maybe Steve-o was into the wetworks himself and his contract was up. Profitable cash business there if you can keep your mouth shut and have no soul.
I'm going out to look for the ark on the moon... that makes more sense than "news" these days.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Belt fed heavy machine guns with only 59 deaths...? Pretty bad shooting if they only killed 59...No disrespect to the victims or their families intended...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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And what about the 'apparently'homeless guy waking around with a dirty radioactive suitcase bomb In his shopping cart
Luckily? He probably can't afford a concert ticket
Another portable weapon is a “backpack” bomb. The Soviet nuclear backpack system was made in the 1960s for use against NATO targets in time of war and consists of three “coffee can-sized” aluminum canisters in a bag. All three must be connected to make a single unit in order to explode. The detonator is about 6 inches long. It has a 3-to-5 kiloton yield, depending on the efficiency of the explosion. It’s kept powered during storage by a battery line connected to the canisters.
Good chance that backpackman will exceed Paddock's quite high kill ratio.
#wastemoeland
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Well now! I'll try to tiptoe through the bullschist that is starting to pile up here.
I was curious who the heck the Kevin Martin is that Cosmic quotes?
He is that rare creature, a black conservative. He apparently works for InfoWars on occasion & also has his very-own Facebook page.
Since InfoWars is a well-known source of Fake-News, it looks like Kevin Martin decided to share or make up "fake news" that the Vegas shooter was an active liberal.
Kevin Martin does get a lot of negative reactions to that BS on his Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/kevinmartin.info/
Here's a few retorts:
You want FAKE NEWS? Go to this guy’s page. Couldn’t possibly be planted from a source wanting to create more hate and division, right? This is so obvious, it’s insulting.
Branch Talley Per the police press conference, S. C. Paddock did not have a Facebook page. Nor was he active on Twitter. This post is fabricated bullsh#t.
Christopher Allo Utter 45 style bullsh#t.
Becky Harshbarger This is completely false, Mr. Martin. You are trying to divide our beautiful country when progressives and conservatives should unite 🇺🇸. Many, many reporters have been searching for days, and the killer has no social media account. The gunman had no political or religious affiliation. Please do not exploit this horrific tragedy.
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chill
climber
The fat part of the bell-curve
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2017 - 09:25am PT
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Crankloon, noun
Slang. A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy:
≡crackpot, crazy, eccentric, lunatic.
See "TomCochrane"
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Watch where you step.
2. Elite soldiers from the Army, Navy, and Marines were trained to use these nukes in a variety of battlefields.
The battlefronts for the use of these weapons stretched from Eastern Europe to Iran and all the way over to Korea. Backpack nukes were meant to be part of the US military's effort to ensure the containment of communist forces.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Veterans Today and Natural News.
Quality!
It is bizarre they called him a senior citizen, not capable of firing.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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It's a sad day, in my opinion, when we satisfy ourselves with calling people "heroes" who do symbolic things, rather than substantive things.
I'm not inclined to call a hero someone trying to get away from gunfire, who flips the bird, as opposed to someone who runs TOWARDS the sound of gunfire, in an attempt to help.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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One of the dead is a neighbor of mine. I know her husband.
Another is from Saint George.
My friend Nic was just returning from a gig back east and was in the Vegas airport when fleeing concert goers breached the perimeter fence. Everything shut down.
Weirder yet, after closing a big deal I had plans to go to the Venetian for clams and then drive the strip people watching before heading to the firebase to camp and shoot my Les Baer SWAT monolith. The rifle and 2 loaded clips were in the car, but I was too lazy to gather camping gear and just stayed home.
If I hadn't I would have been right below Mandalay Bay shortly after ten,....
What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?
There'd be less calls for "gun control".
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TwistedCrank
climber
Released into general population, Idaho
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What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?
It didn't quite work out that way now, did it?
There'd be less calls for "gun control". Doubtful.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Keep practicing, Toker. Someday you will be an NRA hero.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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But some people did not believe they were under attack and rebuffed orders to evacuate. “That’s fireworks,” one bystander shouted at officers. Another yelled expletives when told to take cover.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Moose?
Re your post?
Obviously, the shooting was a Liberals's conspiracy to take our guns away!
Moose
Are you trying to suck-up to Cosmic?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?
There'd be less calls for "gun control".
I suspect that if you had pulled a long gun out during that chaos another conceal carry wannabe or amped up cop would have capped you.
While your wet dream did not come true, the following story actually happened at the Tucson shooting of Gabby Giffords
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41018893/ns/slate_com/t/armed-giffords-hero-nearly-shot-wrong-man/#.WdXy7miPKc0
Zamudio was in a nearby drug store when the shooting began, and he was armed. He ran to the scene and helped subdue the killer. Television interviewers are celebrating his courage, and pro-gun blogs are touting his equipment. "Bystander Says Carrying Gun Prompted Him to Help," says the headline in the Wall Street Journal.
But before we embrace Zamudio's brave intervention as proof of the value of being armed, let's hear the whole story. "I came out of that store, I clicked the safety off, and I was ready," he explained on Fox and Friends. "I had my hand on my gun. I had it in my jacket pocket here. And I came around the corner like this." Zamudio demonstrated how his shooting hand was wrapped around the weapon, poised to draw and fire. As he rounded the corner, he saw a man holding a gun. "And that's who I at first thought was the shooter," Zamudio recalled. "I told him to 'Drop it, drop it!'"
But the man with the gun wasn't the shooter. He had wrested the gun away from the shooter. "Had you shot that guy, it would have been a big, fat mess," the interviewer pointed out.
Zamudio agreed:
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c wilmot
climber
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Bump stocks were approved for US sales by the ATF who were under the leadership of obama in 2010.
Blame them
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c wilmot
climber
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Why?
Companies propose all sorts of dangerous products that they wish to sell to US consumers. In America we are reliant on our federal govt to protect us from ourselves when it comes to dangerous products
It's not an open market- if it were there would be no demand for such a product- people would just buy a full auto rifle
But that's not how it works...
Blame the people who approved this devise to be sold
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Semi and automatic weapons should obviously be banned and hangun permits should be severely restricted. Shotguns and single shot rifles should be allowed for hunting and target practice.
Banned weapons already owned should not be grandfathered in, a three month period should be established for citizens to hand them in. Gun owners should be compensated for the value of the metal.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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OK I blame Obama and the ATF
I blame Trump for not rescinding the approval
I blame the NRA for supporting them and pioneering there development
I do not support them and have not purhased any
Do you support them? Have you purchased any?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Certainly not a wet dream for me, more like the stuff of nightmares (but would have sought a cop to cover my back).
Look at the numbers. How many were shot vs trampled?
As for why, we may never know. Wasn't the Texas tower shooter found to have a large brain tumor?
This guy acquired most of his combat rifles in just the past year (unlike myself). He even did a dry run at another event.
And why country music? According to my nephew they are the only fans that still buy CDs.
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