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clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Oct 3, 2017 - 06:59pm PT
Over the last 24 hrs I have gone through lots of emotions. Fear, Anger, Heartache, Compassion and many others. I truely dont understand why a person would want to take the life of another. Something has changed in this country and in this world lately that is scary to see. This world is becoming the kind of place i am afraid to raise my children in. At the end of the day we arent Democrats or Republicans, Whites or Blacks, Men or Women. We are all humans and we are all Americans and its time to start acting like it and stand together as ONE! That is the only way we will ever get this Country to be better than it has ever been, but we have a long way to go and we have to start now. My heart aches for the Victims and their families of this Senseless act. I am so sorry for the hurt and pain everyone is feeling right now and there are no words i can say to to take that pain away. Just know u all are in my heart and my prayers as we all go through this together. Time to come together and stop the hate! #stopthehate #prayforlasvegas

Jason Aldean
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 3, 2017 - 07:35pm PT
It is nice that Jason Aldean wrote that, but seriously, bemoaning the fact that one human can kill another is a little naive.

When is someone going to talk about how gambling destroys lives? It is happening everyday across the country. Most failed gamblers do not resort to mass carnage, but lives are nonetheless wrecked. It is a disease but too many people make too much money off it. I suspect gambling is going to play a big role in this tragedy.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Oct 3, 2017 - 08:07pm PT
Maybe not gambling.

I wonder if he knew the CBS exec
that got fired for her asinine
and bigoted statement.

Credit: Cosmiccragsman
John M

climber
Oct 3, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
Edit: do whatever you want man.. I'm out.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 3, 2017 - 08:20pm PT
Nut! nails it!

Nice!

And kettle, and by this I mean Werner, you’re reading way more into my statements than I, put there. Dude’s just not a hero, get it?

Edit: cosmic, the idea of propoganda is to post up salacious bullsh#t, before it is discredited, not after! Get with it brah!
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 3, 2017 - 08:25pm PT
Here is just one hero from that night;

Semper Fidelis;
Veteran steals truck, drives 30 to Vegas hospital

A 29-year-old veteran used a stolen truck to drive critically injured victims to safety during what quickly became the deadliest shooting in U.S. history. 
Taylor Winston, a Marine veteran from San Diego, was among friends at the Route 91 Harvest festival in Las Vegas Sunday night when a gunman from a nearby hotel room opened fire on the audience. Winston told CBS This Morning he was dancing the two-step with his girlfriend just moments before. Once Jason Aldean stopped playing and the stage went dark, he realized popping sounds he first thought were fireworks were actually rapid-fire bursts of gunfire.
After climbing over a fence to safety, Winston and a friend looked for ways to help those still in danger. Winston checked nearby trucks for keys.
"First one we tried opening had keys sitting right there. I started looking for people to take to the hospital," Winston told CBS. "There was just too many and it was overwhelming how much blood was everywhere."

Winston told KGTV he looked for victims with the most serious injuries first, loaded them into the truck bed and drove them to Desert Springs Hospital Medical Center. He made two trips before ambulances arrived on scene, CBS reports. 

Winston's friends took to Facebook to thank him for his heroism. "You're an outstanding example of what we should all strive to be in time of crisis," Savant Suykerbuyk said, who also said he once served with Winston. 
“There’s a lot of unsung heroes that day that stood up and helped people,” Winston told KGTV. 
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
Oct 3, 2017 - 08:43pm PT
as usual, paying attention to the wrong things

very unlikely any single shooter could cause that much damage, even a war-trained military sniper or machine gunner

especially at 400 yards ... yes the crowd was thick, but there still had to be a lot of ammo expended without hitting anything at that rate of fire

count the recorded bursts, that much ammo would require a fork lift to deliver and require way more than a single shooter to use it ... the room would be knee deep in expended cartridges

multiple witnesses observed multiple shooters, backed up by videos of muzzle flashes from different locations

don't just unleash your emotions, listen to the videos folks ... shooting bursts last too long for assault rifle magazines ... you are hearing multiple belt-fed heavy machine guns

the public is being played once again

this was a well planned coordinated military operation, not just another local patsy who lost his marbles

it's time to wake up and do your homework, folks

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 3, 2017 - 08:49pm PT
T Hock, now that Guy, Is a hero!
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 3, 2017 - 09:09pm PT


More moose turd pie


It's good though
-Bruce Phillips


Why weren't the hells angels hired for security


fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Oct 3, 2017 - 09:14pm PT
this was a well planned coordinated military operation

Well, a lot of things don't add up, but it certainly wasn't a "military" operation. Some sociopaths in the darker off-budget recesses of three letter agencies sure.... The speed at which "facts" are broadcast is the tell of fabrication. Like how the FBI claimed there were no ties to anything overseas within 12 hours and his girlfriend wasn't involved, before they had even been in this unknown guy's house.

Sure is curious who Steven really was. We'll never know now that history will likely be scrubbed clean and rewritten post haste. He had a lot of cash to blow for a nobody. Maybe Steve-o was into the wetworks himself and his contract was up. Profitable cash business there if you can keep your mouth shut and have no soul.

I'm going out to look for the ark on the moon... that makes more sense than "news" these days.




rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 3, 2017 - 09:18pm PT
Belt fed heavy machine guns with only 59 deaths...? Pretty bad shooting if they only killed 59...No disrespect to the victims or their families intended...
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 3, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
And what about the 'apparently'homeless guy waking around with a dirty radioactive suitcase bomb In his shopping cart

Luckily? He probably can't afford a concert ticket


Another portable weapon is a “backpack” bomb. The Soviet nuclear backpack system was made in the 1960s for use against NATO targets in time of war and consists of three “coffee can-sized” aluminum canisters in a bag. All three must be connected to make a single unit in order to explode. The detonator is about 6 inches long. It has a 3-to-5 kiloton yield, depending on the efficiency of the explosion. It’s kept powered during storage by a battery line connected to the canisters.

Good chance that backpackman will exceed Paddock's quite high kill ratio.

#wastemoeland
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Cascade Mountains and Monterey Bay
Oct 3, 2017 - 10:41pm PT
never believe anything until it is officially denied by the authorities


https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-mass-casualties-in-mandalay-bay-/


https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html#
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 4, 2017 - 07:38am PT
Well now! I'll try to tiptoe through the bullschist that is starting to pile up here.

I was curious who the heck the Kevin Martin is that Cosmic quotes?

He is that rare creature, a black conservative. He apparently works for InfoWars on occasion & also has his very-own Facebook page.

Since InfoWars is a well-known source of Fake-News, it looks like Kevin Martin decided to share or make up "fake news" that the Vegas shooter was an active liberal.

Kevin Martin does get a lot of negative reactions to that BS on his Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/kevinmartin.info/

Here's a few retorts:


You want FAKE NEWS? Go to this guy’s page. Couldn’t possibly be planted from a source wanting to create more hate and division, right? This is so obvious, it’s insulting.


Branch Talley Per the police press conference, S. C. Paddock did not have a Facebook page. Nor was he active on Twitter. This post is fabricated bullsh#t.

Christopher Allo Utter 45 style bullsh#t.
Becky Harshbarger This is completely false, Mr. Martin. You are trying to divide our beautiful country when progressives and conservatives should unite 🇺🇸. Many, many reporters have been searching for days, and the killer has no social media account. The gunman had no political or religious affiliation. Please do not exploit this horrific tragedy.
chill

climber
The fat part of the bell-curve
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 4, 2017 - 09:25am PT
Crankloon, noun

Slang. A person regarded as strange, eccentric, or crazy:
≡crackpot, crazy, eccentric, lunatic.

See "TomCochrane"
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 4, 2017 - 09:37am PT
Watch where you step.




2. Elite soldiers from the Army, Navy, and Marines were trained to use these nukes in a variety of battlefields.

The battlefronts for the use of these weapons stretched from Eastern Europe to Iran and all the way over to Korea. Backpack nukes were meant to be part of the US military's effort to ensure the containment of communist forces.
monolith

climber
state of being
Oct 4, 2017 - 10:24am PT
Veterans Today and Natural News.

Quality!

It is bizarre they called him a senior citizen, not capable of firing.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Oct 4, 2017 - 11:13am PT
It's a sad day, in my opinion, when we satisfy ourselves with calling people "heroes" who do symbolic things, rather than substantive things.

I'm not inclined to call a hero someone trying to get away from gunfire, who flips the bird, as opposed to someone who runs TOWARDS the sound of gunfire, in an attempt to help.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 4, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
One of the dead is a neighbor of mine. I know her husband.

Another is from Saint George.

My friend Nic was just returning from a gig back east and was in the Vegas airport when fleeing concert goers breached the perimeter fence. Everything shut down.


Weirder yet, after closing a big deal I had plans to go to the Venetian for clams and then drive the strip people watching before heading to the firebase to camp and shoot my Les Baer SWAT monolith. The rifle and 2 loaded clips were in the car, but I was too lazy to gather camping gear and just stayed home.
If I hadn't I would have been right below Mandalay Bay shortly after ten,....

What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?
There'd be less calls for "gun control".
TwistedCrank

climber
Released into general population, Idaho
Oct 4, 2017 - 03:26pm PT
What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?
It didn't quite work out that way now, did it?
There'd be less calls for "gun control".
Doubtful.
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