Manufactured climbs....what to think? A dialogue.

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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 14, 2018 - 10:40am PT
Maybe when the old, set in their ways, diehards like Jay Smith and Jim Donini are no longer around, the more progressive minds will take over and different things will happen. If you look at the progression of climbing you will see that change for the better is inevitable in climbing.

"progressive minds" - hmmm. Over the last thirty years that has mainly resulted in dumbing what climbing even is to most people down to the lowest common denominator of the demographic.
Honu

Big Wall climber
Boulder
Feb 16, 2018 - 11:07am PT
Sense someone mentioned the lowest commen denominators, I think the late Steve dieckhoff deserves a mention. he was outspoken in boulder against some of the crazy manufacturered climbs and grid bolting happening in Colorado. Some of his comics relate perfectly to this thread.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=558470&tn=20
Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Feb 16, 2018 - 11:51am PT
I haven't been following this lately, but the quote in JHealy's post (from someone else) about Donini being an old set in his ways diehard seems funny, Jim seems really well rounded and tolerant, and not particularly rigid. I think he's about as current as an old guy can get.
xCon

Social climber
909
Feb 16, 2018 - 01:19pm PT
you must admit,
they made a mess of clear creek...
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Feb 16, 2018 - 01:30pm PT
Great cartoons! I love the line: "...so they made routes the right way." Delicious sarcasm.
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