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'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Sep 28, 2017 - 06:35am PT
We dumped the water and are bailing to the summit!

Crankster - what news/tv? Spoken with ABC and NBC in New York, I think CBS, and good ol CBC.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 28, 2017 - 07:25am PT
Garry, for many, it's just a figure of speech like - The soldier "crossed his fingers" he wouldn't step on a Bouncing Betty. For many others, it serves as a synonym of "hope". Such is our language.


Surreal, Pete.
paganmonkeyboy

climber
mars...it's near nevada...
Sep 28, 2017 - 07:53am PT
...f*#k...that's massive...

My heartfelt condolences to the families, friends, SAR, everybody...

:-(
Lambone

Big Wall climber
Ashland, Or
Sep 28, 2017 - 08:18am PT
It ain't over till ya hit the bridge Pete! Y'all get down safe today!
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Sep 28, 2017 - 08:33am PT
Exactly HFCS. The sky daddy you are referring to is not the intended recipient of my prayers and thoughts Garry. Those somehow involved with this event are though. Sorry for any confusion.
Nick Danger

Ice climber
Arvada, CO
Sep 28, 2017 - 09:07am PT
Condolences to all who were injured or killed by this tragedy. I am thankful that Pete and his party are OK. Massive Respect for YOSAR - commitment and courage! Please be safe out there people.
JLyons

Sport climber
Cali
Sep 28, 2017 - 09:09am PT
Funny how touchy these weak "men" are when someone alludes to the use of religious means as comfort in a tragedy. Very telling.
Gobi

Trad climber
Orange CA
Sep 28, 2017 - 09:12am PT
Good thing you're on a speed mission Pete
Child

Mountain climber
S.L.UT
Sep 28, 2017 - 09:28am PT
Lets face it if there really was a god PTPP would be gone and not those poor other fellows! I mean, now folks need to continue to suffer through his piano! Jesus save us all!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 28, 2017 - 09:37am PT
The presence of JLyons and Child proves the Lord works in ways beyond our ken.
Daphne

Trad climber
Northern California
Sep 28, 2017 - 09:51am PT
I send prayers for comfort to the loved ones of those lost. And light to those who are processing the witnessing.

There is so much we can control when climbing but rock falling is not one of those things. To feel fear and invoke God seems a completely normal response.
WTF

climber
Sep 28, 2017 - 09:56am PT
Glad you and your crew are ok Pete.

Best wishes to the friends and families of those lost.

Every day is a gift. Call your loved ones your friends, family and let them know you love them.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 28, 2017 - 10:01am PT
First, condolences to family and friends of any deceased. Good luck on healing quickly to those injured.

As to publishing the photograph, people are citing Copyright law incorrectly.

From the US Copyright Office:

"Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use."

This is clearly news reporting. Those using the pictures have not hidden their activity, and have reached out. It's hard to imagine what else one could do. I think they have acted appropriately, and respectfully.
j-tree

Big Wall climber
Typewriters and Ledges
Sep 28, 2017 - 10:08am PT
This is clearly news reporting. Those using the pictures have not hidden their activity, and have reached out. It's hard to imagine what else one could do. I think they have acted appropriately, and respectfully.

I would imagine they could have:
1. Not used the photo at press time, going instead with the factual text gleaned from reporting (as the images are more about customer engagement with material rather than factual reporting)
2. Had some modicum of patience and waited until permission was granted
3. Updated the online version of the article with the photos once (and if) the permission was given.

Doesn't seem too hard to imagine at all.
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Sep 28, 2017 - 10:32am PT
Yeah, because the image was secretly and securely hidden away from all eyes on...the internet. Who could have known?
john hansen

climber
Sep 28, 2017 - 10:37am PT
In this time lapse from the Yosemite web cam you can see a flash of the dust cloud at about 26 seconds in. You can also see the fresh rock exposed after the 26 second mark. If you play from about 20 seconds to 30 seconds a few times it is easy to see.

http://www.halfdome.net/movies/inspiration_pt/


Also above ,Anita posted a photo from Tom Evans. I checked his website and it does not look like he has his Sept 27 report up. Not sure if he still does one everyday or not..
SueV PHD

climber
My Imagination
Sep 28, 2017 - 10:42am PT
Listening to the 7 minute radio interview, it's clear PPTP was thoroughly enjoying his 15 seconds of fame.

By virtue of watching one or more people die, he got to puff up and announce to the world he was Pass the Pitons Pete Z.... and proceeded to spew with far more enthusiasm than the situation warranted.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Sep 28, 2017 - 10:52am PT
Helicopter pilot Chris creamer wrote me to say that no one else is missing. I absolutely cannot believe that one person survived what I saw.

A true blue Big Wall Miracle.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 28, 2017 - 11:00am PT
How do they know for sure there isn't anybody else under that enormous pile?
hiker11

Gym climber
Lafayette
Sep 28, 2017 - 11:24am PT
My daughter was climbing in Yosemite yesterday and planning to portaledge last night. We've not heard from her. Can anyone tell me how advanced the waterfall route is? She's been training for her first big wall climb so wouldn't have been on an advanced route.
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