Hiring someone to follow the Nose, Spring 2018


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Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Sep 12, 2017 - 09:19pm PT
Good point.
I haven't used that method, but it sounds good for sharing the hauling.
(As long as the bag is not getting stuck).
iron duchess maiden or whatever

Social climber
under a pile of rock
Sep 13, 2017 - 08:15am PT
As i am watching the beauty of sunrise on the valley, I can't help wondering about the foulness on the Taco.
 The sunrise is via the webcams. The foulness seems just as real as the sunrise. Perhaps more. It seems I can smell its stench.


Jasper left in disgust, after leaving in disgust some 15 years ago. Sounds familiar. I 've done that too.
This begs the question: why bother with this community? A question I ask myself each time I log in.

A guy seeks a partner, gets excrement in his face, asks again, gets more kra-p, reveals he was yosar, and says goodbye. Wow.

Donini and Werner spoke, so I cannot add anything meaningful, except for the beginning of the thread which reminds me of a little episode. This is in response of "Canvas C4, pay someone etc."

Jasper72, if you still read, which is unlikely: if stuck, talk to Nanook, Dave T. or Libby... better than canvassing Camp 4.

Which brings us to this funny story, in 2011. A dude is canvassing C4 for a mule to load gear to Wings of Steel, or some line further west. He targets a friend of mine, whose understanding of english is limited. 70 dollars are offered, and I listen on to make sure my friend is getting the details. The canvassing dude tells me: "So, you're a groupie". Mistake. "No, I am a friend". (The silent part is: and I think you are trying to f*#k my friend, so I am watching you). Canvassing Dude talks about supertopo, and how gloriously famous he is on those pages. My friend does not know the Taco, and "I know the Taco, but I don't post much'. "So you're a lurker" says Canvassing Dude. Mistake and insult number 2 in less than 1 minute. My friend agrees to muling the load the next day. After Canvas leaves, I explain how far the line is, and how long the loading will be. My friend realizes his climbing day will be scrao-oed for 70 bucks. 2 other camp 4 dwellers are willing to meet Canvass at RDV and mule for him. The next evening, these 2 have waited all morning for Canvass Dude, who never showed up, and lost a day of climbing. Canvass had hired another mule for cheaper.

Oh, and when Canvass Dude dared to name me a groupie and a lurker, he boasted: "they call me Pass the Piton Pete". Funny, I saw him groupying the Huber brothers when they broke the NSR in 2007. And I heard of his climbing partner's call for a bail out from the top of EC, because she could no longer stand him.

This might put insults and canvassing into perspective... Maybe.

Sep 13, 2017 - 09:19am PT
Right on, Clint. It's nice to not have anyone at the belay when you get there; easy to stay organized.

I almost always use a dynamic haul line. When bag gets stuck, I leave it tensioned pretty tightly, then rap down and break the bag loose (may require body weight or bouncing); it magically skootches up (amount depending on rope out) to a position it can be hauled normally. That way avoids extra far-end hauling gear, and there's a spare lead line. Great for soloing. 👍🏼

PS: Ian J for STF President

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Sep 13, 2017 - 09:23am PT
ST reminds me of Camp 4 in the early 70's. If you are new to the scene you are viewed with suspicion, if not disdain, by the regulars.
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