Evacuations for Camp Nelson..Ponderosa due to Fire..


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Trad climber
SeKi, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2017 - 11:27am PT
Yea, the 'Pier' Fire is the one up by Camp Nelson...in fact as off an hour ago it was about 2.5 miles away. The 'Railroad' Fire is up by Fish Camp Yosemite. Yosemite got hammered last night by lightning so stay tuned for more fires. The Column showing from the Camp Nelson fire last night in Visalia was HUGE !! That's a fricking Monster Fire! The Firefighters got their hands full on this one.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Aug 30, 2017 - 01:37pm PT
Guy, mooch, flip flop,
Thanks for the well wishes. For us, this is just a vacation home. We really love it, and it would really suck losing it but we still have a home if that burns down. I worry for folks like our next door neighbors, who are wonderful people, retired, and stand to lose quite a bit. Or the neighbors on the other side of us, who just bought earlier this year after saving up for some time. Like Guy said, we're praying for rain, or even some humidity or break in the hot temps.

Trad climber
SeKi, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2017 - 03:36pm PT
Hey Fat Dad....Hope I came across as giving well wishes too.... I think things might actually be alrite for you and all that have homes up there. Most, and there are lots going to the fire from far away, are doing protection for the homes in the area.

Trad climber
San Jose, California
Aug 31, 2017 - 10:05pm PT
Sending you, and everyone else affected, some well wishes, Fat Dad!

My good friend has a cabin up in Sequioa Crest...looks like it's the first community the fire is getting to..about 1/2 mile away.

From what I heard they've got hoses/retardant laid out below the hill and are prepared for a hairy fight.. but they expect the fire to cross Hossack Creek and head uphill, not good.

~Really hoping for the best~

Boulder climber
Sep 1, 2017 - 07:08am PT
Keeping those affected in our thoughts.

Ron C. is down in the valley with his horses- doing well.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Sep 1, 2017 - 07:14am PT
Best wishes to your friend. It appears that the fire wants to move north and south, not to the east where Camp Nelson is. Given the terrain and lack of roads, it appears they can't do much for the communities other than to prepare for the fire to arrive. They had a public meeting online last and they expected the fire to reach Sequoia Crest this afternoon (beautiful area BTW). The fire commander didn't seem super outwardedly concerned about the groves. He seemed to suggest that they'd fare well. If you think about it, they've been around for a 1,000 years. This is not their first rodeo.

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Sep 1, 2017 - 08:33am PT
Fat..... that is good news.

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Sep 1, 2017 - 08:56am PT
This is not their first rodeo.

There is an incredible amount of fuel right now in the Sierra tinderbox. These fires of today will burn hotter than past fires. The effect of suppressing fires has changed the natural state of the forest.

The ponderosa pine had taken root decades before the Revolutionary War, making a stately stand on this western Sierra Nevada slope for some 300 years, Nate Stephenson figures. Then came the beetle blitzkrieg. Now the tree is a dab in the gray and rusty death stain smeared across the mountain range.

At the base of its massive trunk, a piece of bark has been cut off, revealing an etched swirl of insect trails. Higher up, naked branches reach out, as if from a many-armed scarecrow.

“This was alive until the drought killed it,” Stephenson says mournfully.

The U.S. Forest Service estimates that since 2010, more than 102 million drought-stressed and beetle-ravaged trees have died across 7.7 million acres of California forest. More than half of those died last year alone. Exacerbated by anti-wildfire policies that produced a crowded forest more vulnerable to drought, the massive dieback is unprecedented in the recorded history of the Sierra.

The beetle epidemic is transforming the 4,500-foot to 6,000-foot elevation band of the central and southern range for decades to come, if not permanently. The sheer scale of mortality means that outside of developed areas, it’s likely that most of the tree corpses will be left to topple over.

It will takes centuries to replace the legions of majestic old pines that have succumbed — if that is even possible in a warmer future that promises to alter the forest in ways ecologists can only guess.

“We don’t know under the new conditions what things will do well,” says Christy Brigham, the top scientist and acting superintendent of Sequoia and Kings Canyon national parks.

But she’s pretty sure of one thing: The western Sierra pine forest as it was 100 years ago is not coming back.

“The world has changed…” Brigham says. “We’re never going to be able to get back to where we were before.”


When the first big patches of forest turned a fatal orange in 2015, “We were agog,” says Stephenson, a federal research ecologist who has worked in Sequoia National Park for nearly four decades. “It was hard to get over.”

Now he’s used to it.

And he finds comfort in a simple observation: “Most of the forest is still there.”

Higher elevations have largely escaped the beetle damage. Even in heavily infested areas, there is a mosaic of the living and the dead — patches of green and burnt sienna that from a distance suggest autumn in New England.

by Bettina Boxall


Trad climber
SeKi, California
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2017 - 01:25pm PT
Fire is pretty active on the West side today. Calling for a Voluntary Evacuation of Springville...........
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