V16 requires tremendous athletic ability. Honnolds feat incorporates both athletic prowess, and until now unheard of, mind control. One has to also consider some historic alpine climbs that required many elements of climbing in harsh environments over long periods.
It's impossible, and really makes no sense, to try to compare feats in the disparate types of climbing. It's like trying to compare the 100 meter dash with the marathon.
Alex's climb stands alone and doesn't need comparison for validation.
I wonder, can you recall off the top of your head who did the first V13, anywhere? V14? V15?
Off the top of my head I would say Holloway (spelling? jgill would know this). Then Fred Nicole, and again, Fred Nicole. I could be wrong, but that's sincerely off the top of my head. I'll check after I post.
Don't get me wrong. I think Alex Honold's acheivement is one of the most amazing things ever done in climbing. First off, it was kind of a lifetime dream for him. Then he pulled it off with his usual style and verve. Personally, it could be that Honold's send does more for me than the next V grade in bouldering or the next letter grade in sport climbing but I definitely agree that it's apples and oranges. I appreciate and even admire the people who work to up the grade, but I guess I've never been overly enthusiastic about that aspect of the lifestyle. This could be partially due to laziness or a lack of ability on my part.
Edit to add: I nailed it! Although there is some question about whether or not Dreamtime should have been called V15, even before it was chipped.
Riffing on President Obama's call for folks to take up the torch of getting involved in politics as an act of civic patriotism, I encourage Alex to continue his good work on engaging in environmental issues; who knows perhaps he'll run for office one day. We could use more clear-eyed rationalists in government.....
I heard sumpin like Tom couldn't release his pics till after the movie showing? i got to see a few on his little laptop and can I be the first to say; Each one is a MonaLisa X 500!!!! i just can't wait to see them on my 60" 4K Visio tho, Yo!!
i mean DANG!!! This is among the grandest achievements in the evolution of mankind‼️
I see it as as high of an achievement as when Armstrong walked on the moon back in 68. How many decades did it take him since from the Wright bros showing him how to fly? Comparingly with what Harding started on the nose and Alex done did today, ,,yesterday,.thee other day
i mean,,,, who would you scientist give the Gold 🥇Medal to???
Wow! I just heard the news! Congratulations Alex! When you told me a couple years ago on El Cap Spire you'd do this one day, I was all "You're totally full of sh#t, man." And you were all, "Why don't you shut up."