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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 18, 2017 - 06:58am PT
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Awwwww! Will Bill O'Reilly be next????
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 18, 2017 - 07:08am PT
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This news made my morning coffee that much better!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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May 18, 2017 - 07:17am PT
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Not everything Ailes did was despicable. He did a fine job producing the Mike Douglas Show.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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May 18, 2017 - 07:24am PT
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It's not nice to speak ill of the dead.
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Rock!...oopsie.
Trad climber
the pitch above you
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May 18, 2017 - 07:29am PT
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It's not nice to speak ill of the dead.
Not much evidence he was one to worry about what's "nice" so why should anyone treat him any different?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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May 18, 2017 - 07:50am PT
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Good riddance.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 18, 2017 - 08:23am PT
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Few individuals have done more to divide the nation...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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May 18, 2017 - 08:36am PT
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"It's not nice to speak ill of the dead."
-Roger Ailes
Richard Ramirez is reputed to have cared deeply for his mother.
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Barbarian
climber
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May 18, 2017 - 08:56am PT
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His wife seems upset. I'm guessing a number of other women are celebrating.
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The Wolf
Trad climber
Martinez, CA
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May 18, 2017 - 09:20am PT
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Ailes as Producer might have responsible for this. If so it's the only Good thing he did. The interview after the performance is priceless. They never did get the joke that TW was playing on them.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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May 18, 2017 - 09:43am PT
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Found a recent image...
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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May 18, 2017 - 12:26pm PT
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Charlie Pierce nails it
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55144/roger-ailes-influence/
The best thing I can think of to say about him is that he was the central character in one of the most groundbreaking political books of all time, The Selling of the President, 1968 by the late Joe McGinniss.
Let me think some more.
Hmmm…
No, that's about it.
Nil nisi and all that, but American politics would be infinitely better today if Roger Ailes had gone to barber college.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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May 18, 2017 - 05:44pm PT
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Good riddance. An enemy of the state as far as I'm concerned.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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May 18, 2017 - 08:12pm PT
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^^ wat an a hole
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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May 18, 2017 - 09:08pm PT
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It's not nice to speak ill of the dead.
This is something I've never understood. If you are an as#@&%e in life, why should I pretend you weren't?
If anyone wants to be spoken well of after his death, he should lead a life deserving of good words.
This runs all the way from genocidal dictators -- "Oh, yeah, I know Adolph had all those millions murdered, but, you know, he was really a decent guy, at heart" -- to you and me and our daily good and bad deeds.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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May 19, 2017 - 08:41am PT
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Good riddance.
+1
Curt
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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May 19, 2017 - 09:46am PT
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Betcha Russia killed him off and made it look like an accident. Stone and Flynn will be the next to go. They know too much about Donald.
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DanaB
climber
CT
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May 19, 2017 - 11:42am PT
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The public figures speaking well of him are simply saying - Yes, he was disgusting but he was rich and powerful and that's what really counts.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 19, 2017 - 10:03pm PT
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Tough audience, and for good reason..............
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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May 20, 2017 - 02:46am PT
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after reading this thread, i took it on as a personal challenge to see if i could say something nice...
so i did a little "research"... [aka i wikied him]
i'd never seen this quote [from ailes] before, but it sums up almost all of what, i see as being, his longer lasting contribution to our society/culture:
"If you have two guys on a stage and one guy says, 'I have a solution to the Middle East problem,' and the other guy falls in the orchestra pit, who do you think is going to be on the evening news?"
he was good at what he did. [that's as good a compliment as i could come up with]
problem is what he was good at, was rooted in our darker potentials.
it was divisive [anybody who has watched fox news for a full days round of programs, and doesn't agree with this conclusion is likely just being defensive... but, to be clear, divisiveness is not unique to just the right's "news" reporting: for example, the parasitic huffington post is, in its own way, just as divisive as fox news and the drudge report]...
it spread ignorance [objectively so: fox news consumers/dependents are repeatedly and scientifically shown to be the most ignorant/misinformed of collectively held and accepted facts]...
and it was hateful [this is tougher to objectively defend, but it seems clear to me that it is nonetheless true]...
and all of that made him powerful and rich.
and now he is dead.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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May 20, 2017 - 07:09am PT
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He went after Bill Clinton with a vengeance, meanwhile he was banging "his" own interns.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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May 20, 2017 - 02:40pm PT
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I've got a good thing to say about him.
Getting caught with his despicable behavior has cost Rupert Murdock over $1.6 billion so far...
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 20, 2017 - 04:43pm PT
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He died with blood on his hands. He is gone now. He can no longer do harm. That's about all I can say of him. Like all of us, I'm sure he has performed good, humane, kind things, but we will never hear of them, overshadowed as they are by his wretched creation that deliberately seeks to cultivate american-on-american hatred.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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May 20, 2017 - 04:57pm PT
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Seeking to cultivate american-on-american hatred
Sorry but you're wrong. The A-on-A hatred will continue and grow. That guy had little to do with it. The mega-coorporate MSM are running this planet. You clowns lap the sh#t up(newz) like it's holy water. You crankl00ns might as well write-in Soros as yur next Prez. I know Locker would love it
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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May 20, 2017 - 09:06pm PT
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Another worthless, tinfoil hat post from the fake dr. F. We don't need news because it's fake facts. We'll just rely on Roger Ailes and our own prejudices to tell us what's true.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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May 20, 2017 - 09:25pm PT
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No mourning here.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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May 20, 2017 - 10:57pm PT
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[quote]Quote Here[/quoteAnother worthless, tinfoil hat post from the fake dr. F. We don't need news because it's fake facts. We'll just rely on Roger Ailes and our own prejudices to tell us what's true.
Fat dad.....you are not capable of looking for, or accepting real news. Who cares about Ailes. He's gone but you'll obsess forever. Thats a big prize for politard mental midgets like you. You'll be drooling over your MSM masters words for the rest of your short, miserable life L0L.
Fake drF...haha.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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May 21, 2017 - 01:00am PT
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Ailes lifestyle paralleled that of Bill Clinton's
How will the politard azzhats here stomach this reality?
More denial??
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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May 21, 2017 - 09:34am PT
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^^^
Wow, the 1 a.m. Bill Clinton rant. Make that a tinfoil azzhat.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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May 21, 2017 - 02:23pm PT
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More alt news quotes from that same article.
Long live faux spews! Your distorted fake BS will continue to crawl out of the swamp.
"My family used to ask why I would work in a place where everybody wants to kill me," Kennedy, who is probably best known from her days as a VJ on MTV, told the U.K. Daily Mail. "But Roger, who brought me to Fox, had such a big heart and the ability to connect with everybody."
According to LifeZette, Guilfoyle, who has confirmed speaking to the Trump administration about replacing Sean Spicer as White House press secretary, hailed Ailes as a “champion of women"
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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May 21, 2017 - 06:17pm PT
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Ailes and Goebbels are, right now, in the Inner Circle, comparing notes about twisting the news stream to advance a perverted political agenda. Ailes refers to Goebbels as "Master".
Meanwhile:
Sean Spicer has been consulting a Ouija Board Wizard, trying to extract inside information from Ailes and Goebbels, in order to gain a career advantage over Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kellyanne Conway.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 22, 2017 - 10:12am PT
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The Rude Pundit
Roger Ailes was a rabid swine, barreling through the fertile cornfields of America and devouring everything in his path, animal, mineral, or vegetable, and then shitting it out as a foamy diarrhea that was lapped up by the rats and roaches that followed his destructive path. Nearly every phase of his too-long life was one betrayal of truth and rationality after another, each one crueler and more harmful than the last. From inflicting upon us Nixon and Reagan and a pair of Bushes and Trump to his creation of Fox News, as insidious a propaganda wing as has ever been devised, each time Ailes one-upped himself in action, staying true to his view of power as being only for the powerful and that power needed to be forced upon the powerless like a fat male executive telling a female employee that the only way to get ahead was to f*#k him. And Ailes did that repeatedly to the women who encountered him.
Every chance that Ailes had, he took embers and blew them into infernos with his stinking, wheezing breath. He worked for Nixon and took Tricky Dick's hatred of the media and made it flesh. He worked for Reagan and taught the Gipper that facts were the enemy. He worked for Bush, Sr. and conspired with Lee Atwater to bury Michael Dukakis in the the mud and sh#t. Fox News came along shortly before the Bill Clinton impeachment nightmare, and Ailes made sure that the United States had to be dragged through it because it was ratings gold, pushing any crazed conspiracy that could take a blow job and turn it into a national crisis. After that, Fox News under Ailes essentially set the nation's agenda, along with his fellow bloated garbage bag, Rush Limbaugh. And a good chunk of the nation went gone along, drinking his Kool-Aid like it was piss from Jesus, finding comfort in the madness that Fox and its children like Breitbart present. The rest of the media began to take its cues from Fox because they allowed Fox to call the tunes.
Ailes wanted to debase anyone who didn't bow down to him and his corrupt, materialistic ideology, and the odious Rupert Murdoch gave Ailes Fox as his vehicle for vengeance. Ask Hillary Clinton, who has been Ailes's victim for the longest period. Ask the family of George Tiller, the doctor who performed abortions and was gunned down by someone deluded by Fox's stars, the depraved O'Reilly, the revolting Hannity. Ask Gary Condit, the Democratic congressman whose non-involvement in the death of an intern was the focus of Fox's monomania before 9/11 blew that off the front page. Ask the families of the soldiers who died in Iraq, a war that Fox demanded be fought lest politicians want to be tarred as unAmerican. Ask John Kerry, a war hero who was demeaned by the ludicrous and false allegations of the Swift Boat Vets, lies pushed endlessly by Fox, until he lost the presidential race.
And Ailes would make sure that the conservative version of any issue was given prominence. So science and authority had to be derided, as with Fox's support for climate change denialism. So protesters marching against police or war had to be demonized and the Tea Party f*#knuts had to be lionized because they were valiant patriots standing up to the authoritarian Barack Obama. The lies that Ailes spun formed a cocoon around the minds of millions.
From the right and even from the left, you're hearing about what a good guy Ailes could be, how he was a great party guest and "raconteur." Goddamn, I'm sick of hearing how terrible human beings can be great hangs. It's a despicable way to judge a person with power. You judge them by how they use their power. So who the f*#k cares if George W. Bush is a fun guy? Who the f*#k cares if Donald Trump can be charming?
Roger Ailes was a sentient dumpster filled with heaps of lies and an enormous appetite for control. We shouldn't give a single mouse sh#t about how he could tell a funny story about Mike Douglas. The guy bought his hometown newspaper, warped it to suit his beliefs, and then had the employees spied on because he thought they might be saying mean things about him. He was a racist, sexist, xenophobic slug who sexually assaulted multiple women. F*#k that Jabba the Hutt-looking motherf*#ker. We should all be thrilled that he doesn't infect the earth he helped ruin anymore.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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May 22, 2017 - 10:50am PT
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^^ Why did you take out the mean parts?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 22, 2017 - 10:54am PT
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When you fabricate a bubble world of lies that divide the Country into the believers of lies verses the reality based community has changed America for the worse.
Rush, Hannity and Fox news; the source of Fake News, the source of country wide division, and the source of pure lies about liberals and democrats.
Is it not evil to lie about the opposition through millions of BS talking points?
They use the oldest tricks in the book, stoke anger, fear and paranoia; blame it on the opposition even though you are personally the cause of all the Countries problems.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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May 22, 2017 - 12:55pm PT
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Rush, Hannity and Fox news; the source of Fake News, the source of country wide division, and the source of pure lies about liberals and democrats.
Is it not evil to lie about the opposition through millions of BS talking points? Indeed, the dude was evil and, while I'm not glad he's dead, I cannot muster any concern for his passing. It pains me to say that, but it's how I feel. I think about the only other person(s) that I probably feel the same way about are Dick Cheney and James Inohofe.
I find it remarkable that many conservatives and other Trump supporters seem to genuinely believe that Obama divided the country and are either clueless or in denial about the true source of that division.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2017 - 02:50pm PT
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^^^^Amen, Fatdad!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 22, 2017 - 04:35pm PT
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exactly how I feel, Fat Dad, exactly. though I didn't have Inohofe on my list. That POS is worth adding.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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May 22, 2017 - 05:39pm PT
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Like the President he helped elect it's difficult to find one redeeming quality. The planet is better for his passing.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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May 22, 2017 - 05:46pm PT
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Good riddens.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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May 24, 2017 - 01:38pm PT
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I find it remarkable that many conservatives and other Trump supporters seem to genuinely believe that Obama divided the country and are either clueless or in denial about the true source of that division.
They don't believe Obama divided the country, and they are neither clueless nor in denial. They know exactly what is going on, and what they are doing.
They are nefarious, malicious, cynical and evil MFs, who only care about advancing their elitist, right-wing, money-first political agenda. Their goal is to divide the country into a two-tiered caste system, eliminate the middle class, and consolidate all political power at the top.
Their agenda is going to destroy America, unless the rest of us can stop it. It may be too late. Big money largely controls the entire governmental process right now.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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May 26, 2017 - 02:45am PT
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//Didius Julianus (Latin: Marcus Didius Severus Julianus Augustus;[1] 30 January 133 or 2 February 137 – 1 June 193) was Roman emperor for nine weeks during the year 193.
Julianus ascended the throne after buying it from the Praetorian Guard, who had assassinated his predecessor Pertinax. This led to the Roman Civil War of 193–197. Julianus was ousted and sentenced to death by his successor, Septimius Severus.//
After the murder of Pertinax (28 March 193), the Praetorian assassins announced that the throne was to be sold to the man who would pay the highest price.[17] Titus Flavius Claudius Sulpicianus, prefect of the city, father-in-law of the murdered emperor, being at that moment in the camp to which he had been sent to calm the troops, began making offers,[18] whereupon Julianus, having been roused from a banquet by his wife and daughter,[19] arrived in all haste, and being unable to gain admission, stood before the gate, and with a loud voice competed for the prize.[20]
As the bidding went on, the soldiers reported to each of the two competitors, the one within the fortifications, the other outside the rampart, the sum offered by his rival. Eventually Sulpicianus promised 20,000 sesterces to every soldier; Julianus, fearing that Sulpicianus would gain the throne, then offered 25,000.[21] The guards immediately closed with the offer of Julianus, threw open the gates, saluted him by the name of Caesar, and proclaimed him emperor.[22] Threatened by the military, the senate declared him emperor.[23] His wife and his daughter both received the title Augusta.[24]
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