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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 2, 2017 - 03:43pm PT
#impeachthec*#ks@cker
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jun 2, 2017 - 04:04pm PT
Could it be because the 1% have thoroughly brainwashed the masses

It's actually the 0.1%.

1% includes doctors, lawyers, etc. Who make $350K or more a year. Well off, but not obscenely rich.

The 0.1% has 90% of the nation's wealth. And it continues to grow. THAT is the income inequality that's causing a problem. I don't have a problem with people having lot's of wealth, I have a problem with them using that wealth to control politicians to enact policies that are bad for the other 99.9% so they can continue to get richer and not pay their fair share toward the systems that helped enable them to accumulate all that wealth.

Of course Trump is one of the terrible acting 0.1% and I can't believe the stupidity of the regular income people who support him who can't see how much he is doing to perpetuate the problem at their expense. But people who still support Trump are capable of extreme self delusion to support what they need to believe.
Norton

Social climber
Jun 2, 2017 - 04:06pm PT
no such thing as free healthcare and free college

people in those countries voted to pay more in income taxes for both, they want it that way

strange how some in this country who oppose it don't make enough money to pay taxes anyway
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jun 2, 2017 - 04:35pm PT
Please take me at face value.

No worries, I do take most people on this site at face value-- we all know how to climb a jam crack.

But one at a time.

Guy, I think you will pay more in your life and get less in return as a consequence of (edit: the Republican agenda).

I completely disagree and I think you see the problem way differently than I do.

I believe that almost everything the Government does it does so at a huge waste of money. (I have see this with my own two eyes)

I also feel that if the government was not given the power, in the constitution, to do something it should not be doing that. If WE wish for the government to do something for US- WE should amend the constitution...

I have a whole bunch of things I could list but I will not take the time.

so its not really Democrats vs Republican, because I see them as almost the same, they have the same agenda-- control us. in all facets of our life.

So Trump is doing just what I hoped for... rip up the business as usual in Washington DC and cause trouble for the politicians who have failed in their jobs.

That is why I want the parties to become DIFFERENT.... I want to see what Dems want... and I want to see what the Republicans want... really want. DT came along at the right time to mess up the Republicans and Sanders came along at the right time, but HRC had control of the dems so he didn't get a fair shake.

Lets see what Americans want, time to put cards on the table.

back to work...



jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Jun 2, 2017 - 04:40pm PT
You chose Trump, now you own him (Ken)


Once again you make inaccurate assumptions. I didn't choose Trump, nor did I vote for him. And Hillary is not evil - where did that come from? But she could not relate to large segments of the population.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Jun 2, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
Being a libtard, and being in a business that works with government agencies on a regular basis, it is impossible to argue that government wastes a huge amount of money. If run for profit it would probably use half the income. So for many, the prospect of putting more things under government control is not just scary, but stupid. I have a hard time arguing with this.

I think that if we could fix the .1% versus 99.9% problem and make it more 80 / 20 even this would fix a lot of the problems because people would be able to afford their own healthcare, etc. But so long as big business is in control of the government they will confuse people into thinking muslims are the problem instead.

As far as I can see there is only one solution in the end - revolution!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 2, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
I for one sure do hope the Democrats run Bernie Sanders or Hillery or some other communist type in 2020....

Guy, that statement is so wrong.

Back in 8th grade I asked the history teacher why so many people could support a system that is so f*#ked up as socialism. He told me to go to the library and get the answer myself. I did. It was eye opening. Might I suggest you do the same?

Cheers!
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 2, 2017 - 07:55pm PT
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/shields-brooks-trumps-climate-pact-consequences/


Interesting perspective on the Paris decision.
john hansen

climber
Jun 2, 2017 - 08:52pm PT
Ken, that is one of my favorite 12 minutes every week..they speak the truth.

They talked about Trump and how it is all transaction oriented, and just how mean spirited he is in general.



And it made me wonder..


Has he ever read a National Geographic?

Or seen the Milky Way , or recognized the Man in the Moon?

Has he sat around a campfire, had a pet?

I wonder if he has ever made a sincere apology?

Or seen the Periodic Table and understands any of it.

I wonder if he has ever listened to any music that really moved him..

Did he ever read a book when he was young,, like the Hobbit or,,anything

Did he ever study the history of Europe?

Did he ever study a globe?

I wonder if he ever camped out?

Or cooked his own dinner?

Or wrote a letter?

or ever took a photo,,,


I wonder if he understands how the phases of the moon occur, and what causes the tides.

I think the answers to all of these questions is no.

He just really does not know what is going on,,

He has no clue,, and that is what is scary.

I may add to this Rant but this will do to get me started..





rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 2, 2017 - 09:30pm PT
Mighty Hiker...Excellent reply..LMAO
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Jun 2, 2017 - 09:36pm PT

Jun 2, 2017 - 08:52pm PT
Ken, that is one of my favorite 12 minutes every week..they speak the truth.

They talked about Trump and how it is all transaction oriented, and just how mean spirited he is in general.



And it made me wonder..


Has he ever read a National Geographic?

Or seen the Milky Way , or recognized the Man in the Moon?

Has he sat around a campfire, had a pet?

I wonder if he has ever made a sincere apology?

Or seen the Periodic Table and understands any of it.

I wonder if he has ever listened to any music that really moved him..

Did he ever read a book when he was young,, like the Hobbit or,,anything

Ever study the history of Europe?

Ever studied a globe?

I wonder if he ever camped out.

Or cooked his own dinner.

Or wrote a letter.

or ever took a photo,,,


I wonder if he understands how the phases of the moon occur, and what causes the tides.

I think the answers to all of these questions is no.

He just really does not know what is going on,,

He has no clue,, and that is what is scary.

I may add to this Rant but this will do to get me started..





I seriously doubt it.
john hansen

climber
Jun 2, 2017 - 10:24pm PT
Exactly, he has no empathy or soul.

And makes all decisions based on revenge to punish any one who has an opposing view.


It is telling that the Kushner building on 5th avenue is 666.


Steven King could not have written it better.


Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Jun 2, 2017 - 10:30pm PT
Onward to the World of the New Chimera

Welcome to the alt right
Where logic has no bearing
And reason has no place
Where the laws of consequence and justice
Lie down in disgrace

Welcome to a mythic world
Where the Chimera now reigns
With disregard for nothing but brutality and saving face
The counted heads a trifle to
Those hands with blooded stains

Onward to a new world order
Dictated by the few
Cast at odds against your brother Christians, Muslims, Jews
Where dogma intersects with science
What's a child to do?

Welcome to reality
It's gone right off the rails
The apes are loosed upon the city
Reckless and devoid of pity
And no one comes out winning when insanity prevails

Onward numbered programmers
Of every known device
We brought this on ourselves you know to minimize our plight
Reflecting what's inside us
When we hold it to the light

Welcome to the America
Where logic has no meaning
And lost to present hierarchy reason has no place
Where the laws of avarice and power
Now define the human race

Welcome to this place

-bushman
06/02/2017
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jun 3, 2017 - 07:51am PT
This new Homeless problem affects us all
Homeless camps are springing up everywhere, they have nowhere to go
I call the Reagan Ranches.

I wonder if the Republicans think that Trump or any Republican policy will help decrease the population?

my opinion is that it will get a lot worse now with the GOP lock, they are shredding the safety net, taking away affordable health care, defunding food stamps, eliminating meals on wheels, eliminating Medicaid, privatizing Medicare and SS.

Here is where the 2 sides differ
I want my taxes to keep these people off the streets, I want my taxes to feed people, give them a second chance, give them a job, give them affordable housing and healthcare, provide a retirement program that you paid into all your life
none of this free

I want the rich to pay higher rates of taxes than the poor and middle, I want Corporations to pay taxes on they're profits, and I want to reduce military spending by leaps and bounds

I want us to subsidize science and solar power, and not subsidize oil

You can't have it both ways, either tax cuts for the rich and homeless on the streets, or investment into America and it's people, take your pick

I find this new Trump era toxic, more graffiti, more violence, more hate, more poverty, less jobs
It is the era of the swamp, the swamp creatures have taken control

and to say that he must be doing something right because the libs are having a meltdown is purely divisive, you are promoting division between us.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jun 3, 2017 - 08:05am PT
Other countries do it well by providing a job, housing, medical housing for the mentally challenged, or a living wage.

There is a certain percentage of the population that will never be able to work, they will have to be dealt with someway or another

some won't work if you give it to them, put them in a tent compound with some restrooms, water, and a food line

The Republican plan seems to "Please jump in the bottomless pit if can't be a productive citizen and pay your way"
"No way am I going to pay for another American that's suffering, screw them, I worked for my hard earned money"
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jun 3, 2017 - 08:26am PT
San Francisco has a +$200mil budget for homeless programs. The number of homeless appears to have gone up as a result.

Maybe the City has got better, but that's just the City, not the entire area, correct

The problem is that if one city does something to help, more homeless flock to the area since they can't get help any where else
Haven't you seen the South Park Episode

The help has to be Nation wide

dirtbag

climber
Jun 3, 2017 - 09:14am PT

Anyway, I'm still wondering if you know of any good sized to large U.S. cities that have effectively taken the homeless off the streets. I don't know of any, is why I'm asking.

I had read a year or so ago that Utah (I don't remember if it was Salt Lake City in particular) has had a successful program. Sorry, I don't remember the details.
Norton

Social climber
Jun 3, 2017 - 10:00am PT
Rep. Adam Schiff (D)

for President in 2020

smart, good lucking, and most important a straight white male
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Jun 3, 2017 - 11:43am PT


Adam Schiff

Looks good to me. And he's an athlete as well.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 3, 2017 - 11:54am PT
The homeless is a real problem. There is undoubtedly an element of laziness in some small number, but as the problem is analysed here in LA, the largest homeless population in the US, it is more complex.

It turns out many homeless DO work. Some 2 or 3 jobs. The problem is that what people make in min wage jobs is not enough to pay for housing in a region in which it is very very tight. Lack of housing means that housing prices go up.

Also, a lot of the growth in homelessness is in children. I'm not sure what kind of jobs are appropriate for these lazy children.
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