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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 6, 2017 - 09:38am PT
What I've been doing for the past year or so is writing "This is a personal gift, not a tip" on a separate slip of paper and tipping in cash only.



Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Dec 6, 2017 - 09:48am PT
The sad thing is there are folks that are not in the 1% - narcissistic category that support this type of government. No morals, ethics or critical thinking on their part; it really is just about a team.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 6, 2017 - 10:27am PT


WaPost

The richest 1 percent now owns more of the country’s wealth than at any time in the past 50 years

From 2013, the share of wealth owned by the 1 percent shot up by nearly three percentage points. Meanwhile, wealth owned by the bottom 90 percent fell over the same period.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 6, 2017 - 11:21am PT
in other news: House impeachment vote failed at 364-58. so why again should I ever, ever, ever vote Dem again?
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Dec 6, 2017 - 12:16pm PT


The TRUMPETTES !
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
Dec 6, 2017 - 12:20pm PT
On the Democrat side we have house and Senate members insisting that their colleagues resign or retire based on credible allegations of harassment.

On the Republican side, we have a confessed predator endorsing a child molester.

thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 6, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
if the molester-in-chief and his kind are so bad, then what of the enabling behavior on the part of the Dems, Locker? Seriously though, we blame all the people that enabled Weinstein, Epstein, Spacey, etc., but now we ignore the fact that our elected Dem officials (Hoyer, Pelosi) continue to enable the morally corrupt sick POTUS but are willing to don the white cloak of decency and boot out Conyers, Franken....
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 6, 2017 - 01:41pm PT
364 - 58
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Dec 6, 2017 - 03:31pm PT
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/8-countries-call-for-un-meeting-on-jerusalem-trump-announcement/

Eight countries opposed to President Donald Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital have asked for an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council this week.

Sweden's U.N. Mission said the eight nations have asked Japan, this month's council president, to have Secretary-General Antonio Guterres brief the 15 council members.

The eight council nations that requested the meeting are Bolivia, Egypt, France, Italy, Senegal, Sweden, United Kingdom and Uruguay.


guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 6, 2017 - 03:40pm PT
LOCKER.... you really do have a potty mouth.

Is your mother proud of you?
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Dec 6, 2017 - 06:23pm PT
BraveCowboy asks of Locker

if the molester-in-chief and his kind are so bad, then what of the enabling behavior on the part of the Dems, Locker? Seriously though, we blame all the people that enabled Weinstein, Epstein, Spacey, etc., but now we ignore the fact that our elected Dem officials (Hoyer, Pelosi) continue to enable the morally corrupt sick POTUS but are willing to don the white cloak of decency and boot out Conyers, Franken.


I don't get the question, help me out?

How are the House Minority Party leaders Pelosi and Hoyer enabling Donald Trump?
What behavior are they doing to encourage more of Trump's sexual harassment stuff?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 6, 2017 - 07:27pm PT
A bit of an in-depth article, but the best I've seen on the deliberate strategy of the GOP of the last 30 years to manipulate the public to vote against their own interests:

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/01/26/two-santa-clauses-or-how-republican-party-has-conned-america-thirty-years
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 7, 2017 - 11:35am PT
A great article about how Progressives make good the enemy of perfect, and do things like elect Trump:

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/07/atlanta-mayor-bottoms-progressives/

BOTTOMS WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT Democrat in the race from the beginning. She was supported by the Democratic Party. She was endorsed and supported strongly by the previous mayor, Kasim Reed. She was supported by much of the black establishment in Atlanta. Bottoms, on policy matters, is not Democratic Socialist. She’s not a Berniecrat. She’s not an activist. To my knowledge she’s never been arrested in a protest. She’s not a radical. She’s a mainstream Democrat.

For too many progressives, that makes her and anybody like her persona non grata. Now, in a political race where candidates whose policies and positions and history are more progressive than hers, by all means, support the most progressive candidate. Before the runoff, for many, that was Fort. He lost. It wasn’t even close. And between Bottoms and Norwood, the most progressive candidate was clearly Bottoms.

Between the two available options, Bottoms clearly best represented the positions and policies and people progressives should care about most. Yet at every single mention of her on Facebook or Twitter seems to get pushback from the left; some progressives will call her supporters a sellout, say they are supporting the Democratic establishment, and ask if they are being paid by the Democratic National Committee.

This is foolish. They speak as if the more progressive option was to support Norwood. It wasn’t – at all.

Keisha Lance Bottoms is not perfect. Hell, if you thought Vincent Fort was perfect you probably aren’t from Atlanta. But I have to be honest with you: Hating good candidates because they aren’t perfect is getting old. Critique their policies. Investigate their decision making and financing. Do those things! But when a race comes down to a left-leaning Democrat and a right-leaning conservative, stop pretending like they are one in the same. Stop acting like the Democrat has cooties. Stop acting like you are so holy that you can’t lower yourself to vote or support a person endorsed by the establishment.

This type of thinking loses important elections and puts real people in harm’s way.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 7, 2017 - 11:37am PT
^^^This.

For some on the left, “compromise” is a dirty word.

thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 7, 2017 - 02:11pm PT
norton they are enabling by refusing to impeach on the basis of his proudly described sex assaults of (married) women.

by refusing to condemn POTUS as unfit they are implicitly encouraging his operation as normal....

is that hard to follow?


to be fair, you must be content with the "sit on one's hands" approach to dealing with the damage wrought on our nation. it must be nice. for you.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 7, 2017 - 02:18pm PT
No, Democrat is the dirty word, dirtbag.


dirtbag

climber
Dec 7, 2017 - 03:04pm PT
What party is a VIABLE alternative?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 7, 2017 - 03:08pm PT
White House: Trump has scheduled a physical, and his slurred speech was caused by a dry throat

President Trump slurred his words during a policy address about Israel, inspiring media speculation that he may have had a dental or health problem. “The president's throat was dry, nothing more than that,” press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said.


A dry throat does not caused slurred speech, no matter what Dr. Sanders says.
We'll see how the GOP deals with his stroke.....and you don't get a physical for a dry throat.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 7, 2017 - 03:25pm PT
a unity party of moderates from both sides dirtbag. think hickenlooper-kasich. I know it is tough to get out of the two party rut, but when both poles smell like trash....they are.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 7, 2017 - 03:47pm PT
A dry throat does not caused slurred speech, no matter what Dr. Sanders says.
We'll see how the GOP deals with his stroke.....and you don't get a physical for a dry throat.

Interesting that you, as a physician, think it could be a stroke. That was my thought as a layperson.

Of course, we would never see a medical report stating such.

Cowboy: the Democratic party has its problem, but it’s not nearly as bad as you paint it. I’m receptive to your idea about a party of moderates but in the short run, the Democratic Party is the only viable party that can check the republicans.

I would not vote for impeachment yet either.
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