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dirtbag
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Sep 24, 2017 - 06:40am PT
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Well, apparently the highest priority after healthcare for our Demagogue in Chief is curtailing athletes' ability to express themselves.
Funny how he thinks that the mostly African American athletes doing so are sons of bitches, while there were many fine people among last month's white supremacist crowd marching in Charlottesville.
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Sep 24, 2017 - 07:38am PT
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Good Sunday morning. President Trump kicked off a beautiful game day for pro football by tweeting that fans should quit buying NFL tickets if protests take place:
"If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!"
"NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country. League should back U.S."
New Yorker's Ryan Lizza tweets: "Goes to sleep threatening nuclear war. Wakes up suggesting boycott of NFL."
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zBrown
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Sep 24, 2017 - 08:13am PT
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Must be hammer time
The winner wasn't H. Clinton and Tump apparently didn't get the message about what can and can't be touched - touché?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Sep 24, 2017 - 08:28am PT
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The inspiring , omnipotent , presidential Donald Trump. Patriotic outsourcer of American jobs, proud grabber of women genitalia , cracking down on disrespectful NFL SOB malcontents while being investigated for obstruction of justice and colluding with Vladimir to win the Presidential election.. Not good . Very bad..
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Sep 24, 2017 - 08:35am PT
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Why do they need to repeal ObamaCare?
Because the real Republican Party control comes down from the top, right wing billionaires that want more tax cuts...or MONEY
Koch network 'piggy banks' closed until Republicans pass health and tax reform
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/26/koch-network-piggy-banks-closed-republicans-healthcare-tax-reform
At a weekend donor retreat attended by at least 18 elected officials, the Koch brothers warned that time is running out to push their agenda, most notably healthcare and tax reform, through Congress.
One Texas-based donor warned Republican lawmakers that his “Dallas piggy bank” was now closed, until he saw legislative progress.
“Get Obamacare repealed and replaced, get tax reform passed,” said Doug Deason. “Get it done and we’ll open it back up.”
Repeal ObamaCare or else.....
people don't matter anymore, they will just steal the next election so don't worry about those pesky Democrats that believe in democracy
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Sep 24, 2017 - 08:38am PT
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And not one peep out of lyin' Ryan, or Zilch McConnell.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Sep 25, 2017 - 09:11am PT
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Republicans, Trapped by Their Own Lies
Paul Krugman SEPT. 25, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/opinion/columnists/republican-lies-krugman.html?mabReward=TS2&recid=7a05360c-7ace-4718-55de-67a85dcc8a90&recp=0&action=click&pgtype=Homepage®ion=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine
On Saturday pretty much the entire medical sector — groups representing doctors, hospitals, and insurers — released an extraordinary open letter condemning the Graham-Cassidy health bill. The letter was written in the style of Emile Zola’s “J’accuse”: a series of paragraphs, each beginning with the bolded words “We agree,” pointing out the bill’s many awful features, from the harm it would do to people with pre-existing conditions to the chaos it would cause in insurance markets.
It takes a truly terrible proposal to elicit such eloquent unanimity from organizations that are usually cautious to the point of stodginess. So how did Republicans come up with something that bad, and how did that bad thing get so close to becoming law? Indeed, it still has a chance of being enacted despite John McCain’s “no.”
The answer is that Republicans have spent years routinely lying for the sake of political advantage. And now — not just on health care, but across the board — they are trapped by their own lies, forced into trying to enact policies they know won’t work.
Reporting on why the G.O.P. plowed ahead with Graham-Cassidy makes it clear that many Republicans supporting it are well aware that it’s a bad bill, although they may not appreciate just how bad. “You know, I could maybe give you 10 reasons why this bill shouldn’t be considered,” said Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa. “But,” he continued, “Republicans have campaigned on this,” meaning repeal-and-replace, and had to fulfill their promise.
Carl Hulse of The New York Times adds more detail: one big factor behind the push for Graham-Cassidy was anger among big donors, who wanted to know why Republicans had broken their vows to kill Obamacare.
But repealing the Affordable Care Act wasn’t the only thing Republicans promised; they also promised to replace it with something better and cheaper, doing away with all the things people don’t like about Obamacare without creating any new problems. Remember, it was Bill Cassidy, not Jimmy Kimmel, who came up with the “Jimmy Kimmel test,” the pledge that nobody would be denied health care because of expense.
Republican senators spoke about their plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act last Tuesday. From left: Senators Roy Blunt, John Cornyn, John Barrasso, Lindsey Graham, Bill Cassidy and Mitch McConnell. Credit Shawn Thew/European Pressphoto Agency
Yet Republicans never had any idea how to fulfill that promise and meet that test, or indeed how to repeal the A.C.A. without taking insurance away from tens of millions. That is, they were lying about health care all along.
And the base, both the grass roots and the big money, believed the lies. Hence the trap in which Republicans find themselves.
The thing is, health care isn’t the only issue on which lies are coming back to bite the liars. The same story is playing out on other issues — in fact, on almost every substantive policy issue the U.S. faces.
The next big item on the G.O.P. agenda is taxes. Now, cutting taxes on corporations and the wealthy may be an easier political lift than taking health insurance away from 30 million Americans. But Republicans still have a problem, because they’ve spent years posing as the party of fiscal responsibility, and they have no idea how to cut taxes without blowing up the deficit.
As with health care, the party has masked its lack of good ideas with lies, claiming that it would offset lower tax rates and even reduce the deficit by eliminating unnamed loopholes and slashing unnamed wasteful spending. But as with health care, these lies will be revealed once actual legislation is unveiled. It’s telling that Republicans are already invoking voodoo economics to justify their as-yet-unspecified tax plans, insisting that tax cuts will pay for themselves by leading to higher economic growth.
At this point, however, few people believe them. The Bush tax cuts didn’t create a boom; neither did the Kansas tax-cut “experiment.” Conversely, the U.S. economy did fine after the 2013 Obama tax hike, as has the California economy since Jerry Brown raised state taxes. Party apparatchiks will no doubt engage in an orgy of Reaganolatry, but the broader public probably won’t be moved by (false) claims about the wondrous results of tax cuts 36 years ago.
So tax policy, like health care, will be hobbled by a legacy of lies.
Wait, there’s more.
Foreign policy isn’t usually a central concern for voters. Still, past lies have put the Trump administration in a box over things like the Iran nuclear deal: Canceling the deal would create huge problems, yet not canceling it would amount to an admission that the criticisms were dishonest.
And soon the G.O.P. may even start to pay a price for lying about climate change. As hurricanes get ever more severe — just as climate scientists predicted — climate denial is looking increasingly out of touch. Yet donors and the base would react with fury to any admission that the threat is real, after all.
The bottom line is that the bill for cynicism seems to be coming due. For years, flat-out lies about policy served Republicans well, helping them win back control of Congress and, eventually, the White House. But those same lies now leave them unable to govern.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Sep 25, 2017 - 10:20am PT
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The big donors bought them a giant tax cut, paid for it fair and square and they intend on collecting, damn the swamp, full corruption ahead.
http://crooksandliars.com/2017/06/big-donors-threaten-cut-gop-unless-they
Yahoo reports that a donor from Texas, Doug Deason, has "refused to host a fundraiser for two members of Congress and informed House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., his checkbook is closed as well"
Deason told GOP leaders: "Get Obamacare repealed and replaced, get tax reform passed. You control the Senate. You control the House. You have the presidency. There's no reason you can't get this done. Get it done and we'll open it back up."
Sounds like Deason really wants to see his taxes go down. My bet is he doesn't give a damn about the 15 million that will lose health insurance next year. Just that his bank account grows.
Also, the reports out of the fancy Koch Brothers' circle jerk meeting out of Colorado Springs were equally sad. Reports are they were "frustrated" by the President's inability to get anything done at all, even with a GOP Congress. Oh well.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 25, 2017 - 10:47am PT
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Brilliant rebuttal to the article, Cosmic.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 25, 2017 - 11:16am PT
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But pretty funny and well done!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 25, 2017 - 12:13pm PT
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Our man not near Havana.
Trump tweeted about sports 17 times between Saturday and Monday morning. He didn’t tweet once about Puerto Rico, where citizens have been largely without power, water or means of communication since Maria hit Wednesday as a Category 5 hurricane.
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Sep 25, 2017 - 01:03pm PT
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But pretty funny and well done!
Reilly, I disagree, and anyway that meme has been overplayed already. And like statistics it could be used to show the opposite, if you get my drift.
But then you know my thoughts.
EDIT
I may be as impulsive as Trump. I have been telling myself to keep mum since I went back to Patrick Sawyer from Vlad (I vlad my reasons for the pricker). But since climbing has been slow lately (almost non-existent) and starting a business is time consuming and a bit weary, I need some relief.
So here goes...
And it just keeps coming, all the revelations and of course the tweets from Mr Trump, they are an avalanche too.
Blame the media. Blame the deep state. Blame Patrick. Blame the Taco Stand.
It seems a ‘good’ strategy, let the populace burn out and switch off with so many distractions and so much BS, change the subject when the need arises, and they will not care who is in charge.
So Kushner’s lawyer says Jared used a private email account to carry out official White House business. If I recall, so did Hillary.
And one thing about Trump, he may be an idiot, perhaps an idiot savant, but he knows his audience and how to play them, give him credit, he is a showman.
And he says (and it does not matter if they are his words or his puppet masters) what his base wants to hear. But they must be his words, who else could come up with such stupid rhetoric as he has.
I mean, come on, so many commentors and analysts have delved into this far more seriously than I have, but the guy just cannot help opening his mouth or letting his fingers do the talking.
Sometimes neither can I.
But for somebody with so much money and supposedely a first-class breeding, he is not very refined.
Let us be objective, whether one likes the guy or not, he has no class. In fact he is crass and an ass.
His words and actions show that.
I am both at the same time amazed and shocked that he could reach the position he has.
Okay ST (not as in St/saint) Trump supporters, I understand that you do not like liberals, and the liberal agenda that you believe has been driving America in the past few decades (has it? hmm, I wonder, worth taking a look at in depth).
I understand that you are are frustrated with the system (especially you know, the gerrymandering) and DC, and want change. I just think that you picked the wrong man and crew to carry about such change.
And really, a self-serving billionaire is your messiah?
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Sep 25, 2017 - 02:03pm PT
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Howdy XYZ, welcome to a newbie. Yes of course he won, but how? And more importantly, what has he to show for it? (EDIT) And why should I get over a gobshite who bullshitted his way into being POTUS? Why should I get over the fact that Trump is more concerned about his fragile ego than he is about Americans? Why should I get over the fact that he is one sick corrupt person who is leading our nation?
Hey the dude is in the West Wing, XYZ I acknowledge that, very begrudgingly, but does he deserve to be there? You seem a Trump supporter. If so, tell us why he is so great. I do listen and even follow links, even to Breitbart (I draw the line at Drudge and National Enquirer).
It is simple to post memes.
EDIT
Well, XYZ's post has been deleted. I have no problem with that, I have deleted several stupid posts on the Taco Stand.
But for those who did not see XYZ's very fleeting post, it was meme of a lady in a Trump shirt with a "He won, just get over it" meme.
Of course he won the election (how?), that is not in dispute (perhaps should be though), what is in dispute is his repute.
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Sep 25, 2017 - 02:32pm PT
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Cosmic, read, it was Pricker, but then you know that, you just ignore facts, don't you?
Oh, I get it, you are being facetious, trying to be insulting. Try again.
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thebravecowboy
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The Good Places
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Sep 25, 2017 - 03:05pm PT
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Patrick, he's not really a billionaire.
And Cosmic trolls you like a sucka, you softie. :-)
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Sep 25, 2017 - 05:40pm PT
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And Cosmic trolls you like a sucka, you softie. :-)
Yeah I know, but it is fun. I have too much to be truly concerned about than what Cosmic or others have to say, but it is a diversion (sort of what Trump does) from reality.
Does anybody really think I lose sleep over this forum? Well, maybe once or twice, hah hah.
Gosh I wish there was good rock in Wexford. Then I could spend more time wasting the cells in my fingertips than in my brain. If you get my meaning.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Sep 25, 2017 - 06:59pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 25, 2017 - 07:10pm PT
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Remember when Trump took the knee when it came time to go to his draft physical? Grabbing his own pussy.
Lock his punk-ass up.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 25, 2017 - 09:56pm PT
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“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Sep 25, 2017 - 11:18pm PT
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