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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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suggest we focus on demolishing the issues of the lackeys of the 1%, not the personalities, that goes nowhere imho
I thought my comment was rather innocuous.
You know, myself, and other people with left leaning opinions have been called all kinds of names by the conservatives on this site.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Cosmic... Where did you learn code...? rj
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Obama order unconstitutional ? (DACA)
Trump rescinding order likewise?
Aren't the courts the arbiters of these issues and not emperor QT(queegtrump)?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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As to the Trump supporters???...
hey, they are good. honest, hard working, tax paying citizens never accepting handouts just trying to get by
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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never accepting handouts Handouts is exactly what this is all about. The Nationalist want to isolate our trade and labor markets so I have to pay a drywaller $70 bucks an hour to sling mud. And it'll be f*#king great and so satisfying to my homeowner's because he'll be a white Christain dude listening to Rush on the radio....can't wait!
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c wilmot
climber
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If the construction industry was forced to hire legal workers at a reasonable wage it would bring back a lot of middle class jobs. I don't see a downside
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c wilmot
climber
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I am fine with paying more for ethically produced food. I don't feel it's right to exploit workers as a means of keeping food costs artificially low and unethical farmers artificially rich
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Tad.... only problem with the song..... It was Arab, Muslim, slave traders, and the practice of slavery continues to this very day!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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...and an onion costs you three bucks...
That onion already costs three bucks. The farm gets to pay its workers sh*t, but it's passing the real costs, social costs, of that labor on to the rest of us. The other thing is that cheap labor stifles innovation. If that farm's labor costs went up to market value you can bet your ass that they'd start finding ways to save $. And yes, that would certainly include automating a lot of what their peons do today.
Regarding the rescinding of the DACA, I think this could be a good thing. Here's why. The ball just got passed back to Congress, but with what a poison pill. This could end up being the time when Congress actually has to make decisions on immigration reform. What Trump's decision does is to put things back to where they were before President Obama's executive order, which did step outside of Constitutional boundaries. Congress has been complaining about this ever since. Now it's their turn.
Nothing about this is a done deal yet. For starters there are enough Republicans in Congress who don't want to have to defend this in their next election, so they will balance the scales. It's time to quit kicking the ball down the road. Trump wants to trade some sort of amnesty deal in exchange for sealing the border.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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I hope Melania enjoyed her time in the States.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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The Nationalist want to isolate our trade and labor markets so I have to pay a drywaller $70 bucks an hour to sling mud.
Rewarding hard work is downright anti-American. Wall Street paper shufflers and financial scammers, they deserve the money. Hard work is for saps.
Trump wants to trade some sort of amnesty deal in exchange for sealing the border.
And cut off the supply of cheap labor? No way the politicians allow that.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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She doesn't need to worry. High-end Eastern European escorts will always find safe harbor in in the good 'ole US of A.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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If the construction industry was forced to hire legal workers at a reasonable wage it would bring back a lot of middle class jobs. I don't see a downside
It wouldn't and what is a legal worker? A cop?
We've been all through that. Overpaid, underqualified, 49% thugs.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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The lack of understanding basic economics here is frightening.
Wages for low skill remedial jobs fall under minimum wage laws and fair labor practices which Republicans always fight anyways. The days of hiring illegals for the vast majority of small business owners are long gone.
The point here is to have real life incentive to be the drywall subcontractor and not the drywaller or to be the electrical subcontractor and not the electrician or own a produce market and not harvest the produce. These small businesses are the foundation of our economy and rely on affordable labor. Otherwise I'll have to pay Wade (the hypothetical white guy) $70 and hour to do a job that takes no special skills or no special tools. I should be paying Pepe $25 an hour to do that job so I can pass the savings to a middle-class family who may want to do an addition to their home so they have room for an elderly parent.
Wade is getting way too much attention these days! Wade should get off his ass and start doing something worth a damn and stop crying for handouts from Trump. And furthermore; who do you think will be coming after your white collar job someday- Wade's grandkids or Pepe's grandkids? This is about perspective, hunger and urgency (the fuel of a free society) and not what color you are or where you come from.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Arrogance, warmongering, and greed. That's all that borders are good for and all they'll ever represent. Fat assed authoritarian political bullshit is all this is (reversing DACA). You won't change anyone's minds or ever be un-enslaved by forcing your laws on the innocent at the barrel of a weapon, and don't expect not to be treated likewise when or if it becomes your turn to be turned out and disenfranchised. They should save all their blustering and threats, those police state nation morons.
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c wilmot
climber
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Otherwise I'll have to pay Wade (the hypothetical white guy) $70 and hour to do a job that takes no special skills or no special tools
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No special skills?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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no special skills needed, other than knowing how to climb a ladder
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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gee, that small business owner should be commended for thinking about that middle class family that is going to benefit because he is going to pass on the labor savings to them
in my 45 years of working and owning five companies I have never, ever, met a fellow small business owner who really honestly gave a damn enough to not personally pocket his own labor cost savings but instead to lower his profit and charge someone less money for the job
kind of like old and defeated by pesky facts income tax theory
theory says cut the taxes for the already rich and they will be so grateful that they will, instead of just pocking the tax cut money, go out and "create" jobs for all those other people they have been worried about
Kansas just find out, duh, that old man Conventional Wisdom is wrong again
Kansas hugely cut taxes and the Republican congress and governor promised the state that businesses would just flock, rush, to Kansas in gratitude for paying less tax, and therefore more jobs would be "created" and all jobs would result in more state income tax collected
only problem is, it did not work, period, instead everyone pocketed the tax cuts and of course did not rush out and create jobs for other people, and the state of Kansas is right now in such a terrible school closing crisis and exploding state budget that, yes, all those Republican congressmen just voted to, gasp, raise taxes. They were wrong.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Contractor is right! Rewarding hard work is bullsh#t.
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