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Vlad Pricker

Mountain climber
The cliffs of insanity, inconceivable
Sep 2, 2017 - 05:45am PT
drF, yeah, right.

Your posts also explain a lot about you.
Yury

Mountain climber
T.O.
Sep 2, 2017 - 06:46am PT
Vlad Pricker:
So I said I wasn't going to post for a while if again, certainly not politard stuff. But I just watched Pat Robertson and Kellyanne Conway discuss Trump's best trait, she said it was humility.

Humility? Trump? That has to be fake news.
Vlad, I am envious.
It's nice to be young and naive and 100% trust liberal media.

We know that MSM posts only bad stuff about Trump.
So Trump's humility etc. would never get shown by MSM.

To strengthen your biased view of Trump just watch more MSMs and ignore all other sources of information.
Vlad Pricker

Mountain climber
The cliffs of insanity, inconceivable
Sep 2, 2017 - 06:51am PT
Yury, and others, I sometimes wonder about my self-inflated purpose in life. Do you not often wonder about yourselves?

And to reply to your statement, the MSM as you call it gets it correct far more times than Trump does. Food for thought?

And Yury, I read a lot of different viewpoints, yes even Breitbart, but I draw the line at Drudge. And whether or not you believe me, I do not give a flying f*ck.

And drF, I am tempted to post the many articles I have written, on national newspapers, trade magazines, etc etc ad nauseam to prove that.... well, I am certainly a better and more experienced writer than you will ever be.

Now back to the topic.


EDIT

I have to laugh, you are having me on, right Yury?

So Trump's humility etc. would never get shown by MSM

Perhaps it is because Trump has never shown humility, so it would definitely be fake news to report his humility when he has never shown any. Does that answer your statement Yury?

EDIT (yet again)

Dianne Feinstein, who I have never been a big fan of, has received some flak for saying that Trump may still be a good president. Hmmm, she has since backtracked a bit (politicians, as bad as journalists and used car salespeople, not to mention real estate agents from New York, hah hah).

"Have patience", she said, he may still turn out to be a good president or words to that, uh uh, actually I am sort of at a loss for words.

Hmmm, yet again, hmmm. So now a prominent Democrat is saying that Trump may be good after all. Or did I get that wrong (not for the first time nor the last).

Wonders never cease.

I hear what she is trying to say, aside from any BS, if Trumpo can truly get his act together and be a leader, really show what America is about, with all of its diversity, really be the champion of the people (that he has shown not to be so far), and put aside his ego for the better of the nation, then I may show a bit of... not respect, not admiration, but perhaps appreciation if he can do this.

He is there, in the White House whether or not you like it, and I certainly do not like it, but we are stuck with him. What he decides can have ramifications for California as well as Ireland (where I live) and beyond, for climbing, for the environment, for a a heck of a lot, we all know that. Our fates, in some ways, are tied to this man.

The question is: well he become good, shed his ego and narcissism, use what little brain he has to realize, he has more than his base to answer to.

Wonders never cease.

Just to add, pushing people's buttons can be challenging, fun to some. I have some buttons of some posters I can push, but don't. As for me, my late sister Mary was the 'best' at pushing my buttons. She could wind me up like a clock.

Donald Trump is easy to wind up, he is so thin skinned. And that is probably one of his biggest faults.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Sep 2, 2017 - 09:11am PT
Vlad Pricker...Quit fiddle farting around with the dunce boys on supertopo and finish my autobiography " Me , Myself , and Them " .. RJ
Norton

Social climber
Sep 2, 2017 - 09:28am PT
Vlad, how come you switched from Patrick Stewart username?
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Sep 2, 2017 - 09:33am PT
The alliance of Neocons and Zionist Jews last decade was sinister yet made tactical sense- this American/Eastern European nationalist, redneck and oligarch love affair is just plain queerness.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 2, 2017 - 10:40am PT
Texas Republicans Pushed to Kill Safety Regulations for Arkema Chemical Plant Before Explosion

Why?

To save money. To save hassle of compliance.

This is the "free market" response to safety (see "Three Mile Island")

And it works, because now the taxpayers of the US are going to pick up the tab for this "oversight".

Perfect Republican ideology: The private sector gets to keep the money saved from regulation and safety, and the public sector gets to pay for the disasters.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2017 - 02:19pm PT
What we have is actually far from a free market in terms of making companies pay for the cost of their doing business. It is only free in the sense of "anything goes" including government manipulation. The most successful companies use their initial power in the marketplace to change the government environment to ensure that there is an unfair advantage for the largest players, typically to the detriment of millions and millions of people. This is what many people associated with the Republican party call "Free Market".


Here's another example:

1) America's food production is mostly controlled by a handful of companies. They want to increase profits by lowering costs - getting cheaper corn-based ingredients.

2) Farmers can't produce corn as cheaply as the big food companies are willing to pay for it. If truly left to free market devices, the big companies wouldn't buy the corn or the corn growers would sell at a loss and instantly go out of business. The individual corn growers do not experience a free market- their business is typically with one major customer, and they are utterly dependent on the demands of that customer.

3) The big food companies lobby congress for corn subsidies, so the corn growers can sell to the big companies at a price below what it costs them! They stay in business because money is taken from every taxpayer in the USA and diverted to the corn growers so they can sell artificially lower to the handful of big food companies (Tyson, ConAgra, etc.) So really, this money is a diversion of USA taxpayer money to the handful of biggest food producers in the country.

4) In return for this favor of being subsidized by every taxpayer in the USA, these companies produce toxic food, in an environment with less and less oversight and accountability as time passes, and the increased profits from this system enable the companies to more deeply insinuate themselves into the political process.

Welcome to freedom in the 21st century. You are free to become as powerful as you are able to, and to do with that power what you will.

https://www.netflix.com/title/70108783
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Sep 2, 2017 - 02:53pm PT
OK, I'll play your game a little

The Main Stream Media - agreed that it is represented by ABC, NBC, CBS, right?
These are the three regular broadcast news outlets, much larger circulation than the cable ones like CNN or MSNBC

More Main Stream Media - I assume you must mean the biggest circulation newspapers
That would be the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times
and followed by the next series of biggest cities in the USA - Houston, Miami, etc etc

OK we now have the Main Stream Media identified, correct?

Now to your attempt to denigrate the above MSM, like you believe they maybe "lie"
or misinform people, and do this quite regularly, correct?

How so? What does the MSM "lie" about, and "regularly"

I will wait for your long list of regular lies, and then we will move and examine the oh so credible sources that "conservatives" get their news from and we will examine those sources for accuracy of daily reporting, things like "regular lies"

and then we can compare them for credible source reporting, and see who really are the regular liars and who really is not

go, make your case that the above MSM is regularly lying to the American people
WBraun

climber
Sep 2, 2017 - 03:34pm PT
The two most worst biased American brainwashed loons ^^^ above give American media analysis of what is and what isn't true ......
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Sep 3, 2017 - 08:09pm PT

drF

Trad climber
usa
Sep 3, 2017 - 08:49pm PT
That took ALL day for Crankloon to come up with.

What a gem he is. That's why he's Crankloon

Check-in on this thread once a week to see the moron's gnashing of the teeth.

The daily politards here can't even begin to fathom what a waste they are.

Everyday committed to this on-line stupidity.

Barely breathing corpses

Butt..carry-on. It's really interesting. So leprous

Tune-in next week

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Sep 3, 2017 - 09:13pm PT
drF... Thanks for the update on Crankloon.. I've been busy and missed his last post...Keep up the good work of keeping us in the loon... rj
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Sep 3, 2017 - 09:19pm PT
Covefe anyone?
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Sep 3, 2017 - 10:34pm PT
drf: I am so tired of your schist!

You stole Craig Fry's ST login.

Mostly, you post nothing, but negative schist.

Lately, you seem to think we should accept you.

Not a chance.

WBraun

climber
Sep 4, 2017 - 07:39am PT
There are two drF's. (drF & drf)

The one you are bitching about is drFantastic.

The one Fritz says was Craig Frys login is drfailed

Plus you can't have two identical logins by two different people.

So you are wrong again just as modern politics are always wrong again and again ....

(This has been a real st000pid public service announcement)
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 4, 2017 - 09:29am PT
President Trump said he’d ‘deal with DACA with heart.’ It was a lie.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 4, 2017 - 09:32am PT
You know, for Texas, there is a massive amount of rebuilding to be done.
This, in a country with a nationwide shortage of construction workers.

It might not be a particularly good idea to deport the large number of illegal aliens who work in the building trades, at this time.

If you're Texan.

But it seems that Trump will continue to do what he is so good at: screwing his base of support.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 4, 2017 - 09:37am PT
With a brutal September to-do list, GOP is already clashing over Harvey relief, debt limit

President Trump and congressional Republicans are under intense pressure this month to score some significant policy victories and to fulfill such basic duties as avoiding default and keeping the government open. But the path to success continues to look politically perilous.

Aside from the beating up of those who cannot defend themselves, this stuff has the potential to financially cripple the country, possibly for decades. You wonder how we respond to a nuclear attack, when the confusion of a government shutdown is happening?
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Sep 4, 2017 - 09:37am PT
Vlad posted
Our fates, in some ways, are tied to this man.

To put it into perspective, what you eat for breakfast has far more impact on your life.
The federal gov't is like a giant rock rolling downhill, with politicians running in front saying "follow me".
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