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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 16, 2017 - 06:02am PT
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After what transpired in Charlottesville Saturday, and in light of the president's comments yesterday, I am getting rid of my personally autographed portrait of Adolph Hitler that hangs in my living room, if anyone is interested in taking it...
(I'm sure that joke will backfire on me).
Trumps missed opportunity? Unveiling a new infrastructure project to chisel this crap off of Stone Mountain and restore it to its natural state.
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c wilmot
climber
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Aug 16, 2017 - 07:11am PT
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Leave the statues alone. If they are in a spot that's not appropriate- then move them to a park or other such space. It's a rememberance of a shared collective experience. People forget that the average soldier was not fighting for or against slavery. They we're doing what they had to do in order to survive.
Veterans of the war used to meet together to mourn the dead peacefully.
Why is it that we are making such a fuss over stone representations of solders today?
I really wonder what a union soldier who had spilled blood would think of the entitled kids who tore down that confederate statue.
I am doubtful he would agree that they were fighting oppression
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c wilmot
climber
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Aug 16, 2017 - 07:45am PT
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The increase in monuments at the turn of the century had to do with the use of pneumatic drills and other such moderzinations in the monument carving industry.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 16, 2017 - 07:59am PT
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After yesterday's debacle, I think we can now call it a failed presidency. Any gram of credibility or moral authority that he had as a leader is gone. God help us when we have a crisis.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 16, 2017 - 08:08am PT
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Like I pointed out above. What Trump said is questionable. Though his intent is clear even if he didn't say "us".
TRUMP: Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at [indiscernible] – excuse me – what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 16, 2017 - 08:11am PT
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All joking aside, if they haven't already, most Americans will regret that this person was not disqualified from running for office by the electorate at the outset. So many people in public office, news media, and political pundits expected that when this adolescent cloaked in ill gotten wealth became elected he would rise to the occasion and become presidential.
A human being so corroded at the core that the look in his eyes, the swaggering bullying demeanor, and the tone of his voice so alerted me to his façade of corrupt authoritarianism at the outset, and I have never trusted him to be more than the racist sexist greedy bigot that he has always been.
My crude attempts at humor fall short of masking my deep disgust at what has happened to our nation to allow things to to have degenerated this point. Unfortunately the nightmare of such a disgraceful presidency is still in its infancy and the predictable horrors of what might yet come have not dawned upon most people here in America.
I was recently in Canada and spoke with an older climber/family man in Banff about the problems with our falsely fearless leader (such as he is) when the stirrings of the current North Korea pissing match first began between Trump and Kim Jong Un.
The gentleman voiced his overall opinion of his countrymen, telling me that they believed Trump was mentally ill, that he was probably going to start World War III, and that Germany, France, and Canada we're now leading the world on the progressive front. I agreed with him wholeheartedly and assured him that there were still a few decent Americans left here.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Aug 16, 2017 - 08:21am PT
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After yesterday's debacle, I think we can now call it a failed presidency.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, behold this
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Aug 16, 2017 - 08:30am PT
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So leftist thugs fight right wing Nazis..... and some snotty reporter wishes to know who has the moral hi-ground????
How the F do you explain that one?
I still support My President... he is so much better than the politics "as usual".
The talking will start right after the screaming dies down... get a grip people.
And North Korea didn't sent 4 ICBMs at Guam... Gee wiz wonder why.
And Elvis died 40 years ago today.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Aug 16, 2017 - 08:35am PT
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The increase in monuments at the turn of the century had to do with the use of pneumatic drills and other such moderzinations in the monument carving industry.
Lol
I still support My President...
Lol
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 16, 2017 - 08:53am PT
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Let us not forget his abuses and public displays...
And now the man has gone beyond becoming a national disgrace. The infection of racism has been exacerbated by one person's quest to be right at all costs.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Aug 16, 2017 - 08:53am PT
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Denazification directive 30.
In Germany, we forced them to remove all monuments to the nazis, and made it a crime to have a swatzika or give a nazi salute or erect a statue glorifying their racist history or name a street after one of the racist oppressors. There are no statues glorifying "the boys who wore the swastikas."
But here in the US, we throw the Nazis a parade, and when the racists murder someone, they're only half to blame.
I would say "you be you," but I think that the sad truth is "we be we." Hello world, we're America.
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:04am PT
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I still support My President
of course you do, honey
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:15am PT
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N. Korea never was going to "sent" missiles to Guam.
Trump has nothing to do with it.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:18am PT
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That absurd display of a mob carrying torches was rife with racist connotations Not just connotations - they were chanting "Jews will not replace us."
That Friday night group was the group of racists that Trump identified as containing "some very fine people," as opposed to what he characterized as very, very violent alt-left folks who were half to blame for an anti-racist being murdered on Saturday.
It is what it is. It's not like we haven't known it all along. America is the same America today that it was yesterday. This guy is our leader.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:25am PT
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No trolling Fritz.
I've been here for a long time.
I love this site for climbing content and good human stoke. You PC hystericals are ruining this place.
What you loons say here is really outrageous and so short-sighted. Like the rest of the drooling masses that are perpetually plugged in.
You're narratives about people in other parts of the country who you perceive to be 'against' you are really bigoted. But you are clueless
You've allowed yourselves to be trolled by a TINY pocket of white-trash losers(with a dead message) and a heavy sucker punch of media brainwashing.
It's a Civil War...haha. You complete them
BTW Cali has the second most hate groups in the country per SLP group.
Time to man the f**k up and fight for what you spew about.
Go get'em girls
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:26am PT
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I still support My President...
That anyone would consider him 'their' president at this point defies belief. He's at base a traitorous and juvenile sociopath even without the racism, misogyny, homophobia, and xenophobia.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:28am PT
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Bushman:
I was recently in Canada and spoke with an older climber/family man in Banff about the problems with our falsely fearless leader (such as he is) when the stirrings of the current North Korea pissing match first began between Trump and Kim Jong Un.
The gentleman voiced his overall opinion of his countrymen, telling me that they believed Trump was mentally ill, that he was probably going to start World War III, and that Germany, France, and Canada we're now leading the world on the progressive front. Bushman, it's good that you do not use Canadian Mainstream Media as a source of information on how Canadians think and feel. Canadian MSM is overwhelmingly controlled by liberals and presents a distorted picture.
Talking to real Canadians is good, but you should not limit yourself just to one conversation.
Talk to more people and you may discover other opinions.
I know quite a few Canadians who regardless of all the shenanigans of the current US president still believe that he is a better choice than Obama or Hillary.
Support for Trump is especially strong in AB, MB and SK that are culturally closer to Western US states than to BC, ON, QC or Atlantic Provinces.
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:29am PT
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At a stunning press conference Tuesday, President Donald Trump essentially took back his delayed, tepid denunciation of neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klan members and other white nationalists who incited Saturday’s violence in Charlottesville, Virginia. He even described some as “very fine people.”
yes indeed, some of those Jew hating Klu Klux Klanners are "very fine people"
but yes, you should always support your President, no matter what he says or does
because one thing you should never ever do is admit that you were wrong
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Aug 16, 2017 - 09:37am PT
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As for anti-Korean rhetoric, we need to keep Military-Industrial complex in mind.
According to a pattern that was identified by Dwight Eisenhower, each American president need to start or significantly escalate at least one war to make Military-Industrial complex happy.
If you believe that North Korea is not a good target, what other options of starting a war can you suggest to Trump?
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