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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 15, 2017 - 10:49am PT
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Merck, Intel, Under Armour CEOs quit council over Trump’s initial response to rally
The decision shows how executives have struggled to balance their desire to engage the White House with growing expectations that they exercise a voice on social issues.
They've held their noses, and held their noses, now they cant stand the stench any longer........
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 15, 2017 - 10:54am PT
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How many statues of Washington were erected in England? How many stand today?
None I reckon, and what the heck does that have to do with anything? Respectfully.
We have been talking about the concept of erecting statues to traitors of the USA, and how puzzling it is that we should have considered that appropriate.
Geo Wa was, indeed, a traitor to England, and there is no celebration of him among the English.
Robt Lee was a traitor to America, and yet he is celebrated BECAUSE of his sedition with statues all over the place.
Why is it considered appropriate to celebrate a traitor to the country? Are we going to put up statues to American Taliban that have been killed???
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 15, 2017 - 10:55am PT
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Trump campaign emails show aide’s repeated efforts to set up Russia meetings
A new batch of communications turned over to congressional committees reveals concerns within the campaign about establishing contacts.
drip, drip, drip.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 15, 2017 - 10:57am PT
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Justice Department at odds with DEA on marijuana research, MS-13
Law enforcement officials say the DEA wants to act on more than two dozen requests to grow pot for research, one of a number of areas in which the anti-drug agency is at odds with the Trump administration.
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Vlad Pricker
Mountain climber
The cliffs of insanitty
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Aug 15, 2017 - 11:05am PT
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Ronaldo
Oh gosh, another egotistical narcissist. Make sure you get his hair correct in his wax figurine.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 15, 2017 - 11:10am PT
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Robert E. Lee, like Pocahontas, was a distant relative of mine...
But I have denounced his legacy at every turn.
Now Pocahontas, were she actually my relative, she would be a point of family pride.
But Henry Clay was, in fact, my 9th cousin.
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Vlad Pricker
Mountain climber
The cliffs of insanitty
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Aug 15, 2017 - 11:32am PT
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How many statues of Washington were erected in England? How many stand today?
I used to live in England. I saw no statues of George.
But there is a statue of John Barry, "co-founder/father" of the US Navy, in Wexford town (where he was born, actually Tacumshane, Co Wexford, not far from here).
Don't ask me what that has to do with this thread. Just thought I'd lighten things up.
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Now, if there was a statue of Ed Barry in Wexford, I'd wonder. However, Ed could do one-arm pull ups, I could never do those.
And Bruce Cook, in his 60s, he used to jam his fist in between the fork of a tree branches and do a one-arm pull-up, this is at Indian Rock in Berkeley. Amazing. But there is no statue of him in the pit.
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Bushman, only nine cousins? I have loads, many in WVA (Montani semper liberi, Mountaineers are always free, my mom was and proud of being a Mountaineer) and a lot in Washington state.
Lighten up people, let me be the serious one.
They say if you took West Virginia and flattened it out, it would be larger in area than Texas. I do not believe that. It is Fake News. Just ask Donald.
WVA seceded from Virginia, traitors. Are the any statues of Robert E Lee in WVA? Papa Casey (grandfather) has a statue in Pittsburgh, but he didn't fight in the War between the States. He just fought for the miners and steel workers.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Aug 15, 2017 - 12:12pm PT
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DMT... well put.
+1
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 15, 2017 - 12:51pm PT
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You still take as fact the "polls" ....
actually guyman, the polls have been quite accurate, and nothing to do with your vote
take for example the recent Presidential election where the polls projected the Hillary would win by some 2%, and in fact she did, almost three million more votes than the little moron
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Aug 15, 2017 - 01:11pm PT
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And to those who are all bent out of shape about the KKK having a rally...or a march.... It is their right to do so
just because they could does not mean they should.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Aug 15, 2017 - 01:12pm PT
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538 had trump to win the electoral college at around 30%. Not bad considering how close those three state results were.
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c wilmot
climber
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Aug 15, 2017 - 01:42pm PT
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This indeed was a turning point in American politics . I was willing to defend people who I previously felt were being mislabeled by the media. However after that tiki torch march I can no longer defend these people. "white nationalists" "alt right" - whatever the label- they have now owned these terms. They are racist- and open about it. Anyone associating with these people should be viewed as racists, there is no longer a grey area.
If the rebublican party wants to seperate themselves from these groups the time is now
That absurd display of a mob carrying torches was rife with racist connotations
It was indefensible on many levels
i hate to say it- but I was wrong to give these people the benifit of the doubt
I am all for free speech- but that racist display should have been shut down
It was a national embarrassment
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Aug 15, 2017 - 03:30pm PT
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Just when I thought trump couldn't be more of a dick, he takes an overdose of Viagra...
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 15, 2017 - 03:36pm PT
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Last week it was almost World War III, this week we have to fight World War II again. What a f*#king dick!!
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 15, 2017 - 04:46pm PT
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Good post c. wilmot.
I'm only now catching up on today's news, but that mealy mouthed what-ifism q and a might have been the all time worst press conference. What a disgrace.
Any president defending or equivocating about neo confderates and Nazis should resign. Now. Duh.
Unfit.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 15, 2017 - 04:48pm PT
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Just because a person is conservative and perhaps likes those statues doesn't mean they are racist.
Calling them racists for being conservative, frankly Ken M you did exactly that farther up this thread, further alienates them and actually breathes more life into racist organizations. I don't think that is a good approach though I certainly understand the sentiment, even if I disagree with it.
With all due respect, *I* did not identify conservatives as racists, I believe that Guyman did. I simply pointed out that considering an attack against racists being an attack against conservatives means that he considers them them same.
*I* don't consider them racists for being conservative, but when they embrace racists as their brothers upholding their beliefs........
As for the statues, it takes considerable gumption to pretent (not that you do), that those statues don't represent a very violent philosophy which is anti-American. That they were traitors is not controversial, they took up arms against America, the precise definition in the Constitution.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 15, 2017 - 05:08pm PT
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What a fuked up world you gross materialists are making .....
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Aug 15, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
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With all due respect, *I* did not identify conservatives as racists, I believe that Guyman did.
Where did I say that????
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