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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Jan 22, 2017 - 03:48pm PT
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Whether or not organizations that called themselves "pro life" were welcome at marches yesterday, a fair number of those who marched were probably both "pro life" and "pro choice". As with so many other issues that can be presented as divisively blue/red (i.e. purple), to some it's not so clear cut.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jan 22, 2017 - 04:31pm PT
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Edit- the solution is to not have invaded a sovereign nation while supporting the terrorist groups behind the chaos.
It's been a predictable disastor.
It's too bad so many are worried about Syrian refugees rather than our policy's that displaced them.
We didn't invade Syria.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jan 22, 2017 - 04:34pm PT
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Where did women's rights go that they have to be protesting? There has been a liberal in the WH for 8 years. Did HE bring down women's rights? Are you protesting Trump's treatment of women? If so, why weren't you hypocrites protesting Slick Willie? What a bunch of 'tards all of you are.
Philo, you have to pay attention.
There is a coordinated effort by the Right, to continue to attack abortion AND BIRTH CONTROL, state by state. Rowe is in the target zone, and is likely to fall. Trump has specifically stated that opposition to Rowe is a litmus test for his SC candidates.
Women, when told that they will be denied the right to obtain birth control, get pretty upset. Forcing them into unwanted pregnancies is roughly equivalent to being forced into slavery.
You may happily submit to slavery, most would not.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Jan 22, 2017 - 04:40pm PT
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Does your church welcome Planned Parenthood to its events? I don't know. My point was just that the organizers website has "diversity" and women's rights splashed all over it, which is great, but when I heard they booted New Wave Feminism it sounded more like deversity of everything except thought. The freedom to agree or be an outcast, if you will. No big deal, that's their right, I just don't agree so I didn't feel aligned with a main motivation for the march.
Whether or not organizations that called themselves "pro life" were welcome at marches yesterday, a fair number of those who marched were probably both "pro life" and "pro choice". As with so many other issues that can be presented as divisively blue/red (i.e. purple), to some it's not so clear cut. True, I had several friends who are pro-life march yesterday and I'm happy for them. I just did a fair amount of research first and decided not to.
Women, when told that they will be denied the right to obtain birth control, get pretty upset. Forcing them into unwanted pregnancies is roughly equivalent to being forced into slavery.
I am very opposed to abortions but don't have a problem with access to birth control, though the premise behind statements like this seems to assume that birth control is the only way to avoid getting pregnant.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Jan 22, 2017 - 05:14pm PT
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I don't judge, hope you're doing well. I have no way of knowing what it's like to make that decision. We disagree and we're talking about it, I like that we can do that.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jan 22, 2017 - 05:30pm PT
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Not to be an azz.
But what comes next after the pink hats, the nifty signs and the Facebook update?
I fear that like too many of the recent so called movements, this one too will fade with the next episode of Kardashians.
I hope the generation of 20 second attention spans doesn't let this issue become just another one Twitter wonder.
Too much is at stake.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 22, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
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Classy
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jan 22, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
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Like the NPR sound clip where a marcher described herself as an "activist lesbian social worker from Portland".
The extent of modern day Tribalism is astounding to me.
Little wonder the world is conflicted.
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c wilmot
climber
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Jan 22, 2017 - 06:00pm PT
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Causeheads. They find a world threatning issue and stick with it for about a week
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jan 22, 2017 - 06:05pm PT
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What's your cause, wilmot? Whatever it is it's not clear. Do you a stand on anything? Who's your president? I assume you're not a p***^y grabber. Who should lead the nation? I'm serious. Let's hear you sell a person. Who is it?
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 22, 2017 - 06:11pm PT
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...seems to assume that birth control is the only way to avoid getting pregnant
Well, there are infertile women who haven't got the funds or insurance to cover IVF, and lesbian sex, but other than that I can only think of abstinence. Please tell me that abstinence wasn't what you were alluding to.
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c wilmot
climber
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Jan 22, 2017 - 06:12pm PT
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As a student of PCU my cause is to humorously awaken people
That's not a protest. Its a cry for help
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Kelly Morgan, Whitefish MT
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Jan 22, 2017 - 06:21pm PT
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Not to be an azz.
Haha, is that why your comment is dripping with snarkiness and condescension?
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Norton
Social climber
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Jan 22, 2017 - 06:56pm PT
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jan 22, 2017 - 07:07pm PT
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Because Chewybacca I work in the industry that distracts and disarms the populace through the magic of flickering images on a screen.
The average attention span in this country is astounding in it's brevity.
If this movement is still on the first five pages of Google in a week would be a recent record.
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Omot
Trad climber
The here and now
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Jan 22, 2017 - 07:26pm PT
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I was at the SF march with my wife. Vibe was celebratory with a message of love...well, except those directed at Trump.
And for you Trump supporters, understand while policy differences are one thing, he comes across like he's going to shove these policies down our throats. He displays a complete disregard for removing conflicts of interest, has not released his taxes, he lies incessantly, and his disparaging remarks, directed at so many lower in power than he, is a real issue for many of us. He really can't help but be polarizing given this behavior. So while he's pandering to his base, he's also pissing people off. Pissing people off is not usually the best way to get people to buy into one's policies or vision. He's on a short fuse here, as these marches on his Day 1 indicate. My wife and I are busy with work and raising kids, never active before, but that's changed starting yesterday. The resistance has begun.
Tomo
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Jan 22, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
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Wow, just wow. It's amazing how far up your a*#es some of your heads are. Broads? 'Tards? This is the exact contempt and disrespect that millions of people around the world spoke out against yesterday. Maybe if you read (if you can, seeing as several of you can't even spell or use punctuation properly) some of the "mess" that was left behind in NY you'd understand what it's about, which is not just abortion rights. As Madonna said, wake the f*ck up.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 22, 2017 - 08:21pm PT
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Crusher go back to that rock you hide under..
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jan 23, 2017 - 05:50am PT
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Seems to me there's a lot of Trump voters commenting here. . .
sad.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jan 23, 2017 - 06:16am PT
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Sore winners.
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