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Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Apr 16, 2018 - 03:39pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^



Nope.



RURP_Belay

Big Wall climber
Bitter end of a bad anchor
Apr 16, 2018 - 08:05pm PT
Ed posted the link, but all you really need is the one image:

Credit: RURP_Belay
shipoopoi

Big Wall climber
oakland
Apr 16, 2018 - 08:46pm PT
pete, you have NOT done sixty routes to the summit, stop claiming that right now. its gotta be more like 57 or 58 dood. ss
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 18, 2018 - 07:09am PT
I’m getting a glue on widows peak!

At least it’s good for plugging competing
Books....
WBraun

climber
Apr 18, 2018 - 08:01am PT
pete, you have NOT done sixty routes to the summit, stop claiming that right now.

I'd say way over 90% have never climbed to the summit of El Cap.

It's another 1000 feet of steep slab to the real summit ......
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 18, 2018 - 08:37am PT
Say what you want about Fabio but the dude abides, at least as measured by his car collection. LA Times car guy had a good time with him (the short video is entertaining):

L.A. Drives: Carving a Malibu canyon with Fabio

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-la-drives-fabio-latigo-canyon-20180315-story.html

Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Apr 18, 2018 - 08:41am PT
Sure, the forum has hit rock bottom, or close to it.
But there is some subjective, positivist irony here!

It's so cleaned out in terms of participation, that now when I go on many threads, a lot of the riffraff general public is absent, and once again, as in the heyday of 2006 through 2009/2011, the threads I read are populated primarily with people whom I well recognize, respect and enjoy. (We're just less active than we once were, so not generating as much TR type content. So it goes.)

Now that the forum has crashed, it seems only us diehards are left: and this is a good thing!

Also, the front page stays static for much longer, somewhat due to the fact that there is less junk: less junk in terms of topics, and less junk in terms of meaningless argumentation.
And as of late, (though of course it is cyclic as always), I see more climbing/outdoor oriented stuff on the front page than I have become accustomed to seeing over the last half dozen years.

Here's a sample of 32 topics on the front page from yesterday:
(It will enlarge to a readable size)

Front page 2018-04-17
Front page 2018-04-17
Credit: Tarbuster

Going for a loose count to include climbing and outdoor/nature related threads, I count 20 out of 32. So two thirds of the content is relevant: not bad at all.

And as in this thread right here, right now, I'm likely going to be very familiar with about the same ratio of those avatars who post up, if not more!

 We own it again!!!

(So we are the kings and queens of nothing, but hey, I like open space, and as hooblie noted: what is there to disparage about a blank page? ... Yes, that's where creativity happens)
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Apr 18, 2018 - 09:09am PT
Tarbuster: . . . it seems only us diehards are left: and this is a good thing!

I suspect the subjective experience of climbing has brought many people to this site, not only because it talks about the technical aspects of moving over rock, but because climbers like to hang-out with other climbers. They share some beliefs, some values, and some norms of behavior (i.e., they share a culture). I enjoy shucking and jiving with folks in all the communities I participate in, and I recognize that community members talk more much more than HOA, climbing, academic, spiritual, artistic, etc. matters (some of my communities). I’d suggest that at the base of every community are connections that coalesce from learning about each other socially—that is: what we believe, what we want, what we think, what we’ve experienced. Hearing how a man treats his children or a woman treats her employees, what he or she thinks about art, where they’ve been in their lives all help us to learn who or what we are talking with. Communities seem to be like language: organic; with lives all of their own. No one can appear to control them. They seem to be the result of a mutual agreement among members: people select in and out, and the community selects and deselects participants.

I got into climbing because I wanted to build and test my character. I volunteered for Viet Nam back in ’67 for the same reason. Both worked out pretty well for me, but not without a fair amount of difficulty and error (and fear).
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Apr 18, 2018 - 06:23pm PT
Yeah, most of those still harboring gross amounts of black, gunky cognitive dissonance in their shadows have gone elsewhere to continue the purge of their edgy discontent, self-selecting themselves for a protracted dip into another shallow party pool with a new batch of like-minded, reactionary miscreants, leaving only us self-actualized, gleaming old souls here to wallow around in the drunken promised land of our self-made punch bowl! Woo hoo & yeah baa-bee!
Timid TopRope

Social climber
the land of Pale Ale
Apr 18, 2018 - 06:32pm PT
I thought you were talkin' 'bout me until I read the self-actualized part.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Apr 18, 2018 - 06:32pm PT
Yeah, most of those still harboring gross amounts of black, gunky cognitive dissonance



#BULGEMELON!!!!

One Adam Bulgemelon
One Adam Bulgemelon
Credit: Cosmiccragsman

Credit: Cosmiccragsman
L

climber
A place where Blue is the new Black...
Apr 18, 2018 - 06:53pm PT
Tarbuster: ...leaving only us self-actualized, gleaming old souls here...

I was going to answer this assertion with a chipper "You called?"

...but then I remembered what a very wise Buddhist monk once told me:

Old Souls = Slow Learners
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Apr 18, 2018 - 07:03pm PT
L say:
Old Souls = Slow Learners
Ha ha, exactly!

And the corollary to that is: when we try to hang a garland on someone by calling them a survivor,
That's just signifying another one of us who's been caroming about on the skid plate of his/her ass.

 Ah, but it's the togetherness. That's what it be and where it's at!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 18, 2018 - 07:30pm PT
Tarburster! As one of the "Non-Yosemite" old-farts still hanging around this forum, I commend you, for not only all your wonderful earlier posts, but this recent thread.

Gud Work!

Fritz, summer 2017, already high & wondering whether or not to get hig...
Fritz, summer 2017, already high & wondering whether or not to get higher.
Credit: Fritz
L

climber
A place where Blue is the new Black...
Apr 18, 2018 - 07:40pm PT
Well truthfully Roy, I'd rather be an Old Soul/Slow Learner with the likes of you and Fritz here, than a quick study sitting on my enlightened arse in some ashram, bored outta my gourd.

Know what I mean?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Apr 18, 2018 - 07:58pm PT
Quick anecdote for you, Laura:

I've done my fair share of sitting, (code for: not nearly enough) and stumbled through plenty of reading in and around the genre, (just like a good Westerner, way more reading than sitting, ha ha), and beyond that, I've known a few Dharma Brats as well. (Rich kids whose parents send them to a Buddhist community instead of prep school).

So this German kid is doing his sitting in an ashram (oops Hindu), or some suitable room or meditation hall somewhere within the sangha or whatever, and one of the spiritual leaders, you know, the Rinpoche, one who remembers and all of that groovy (or not so groovy) stuff, asks the young man: "how's the meditation going?"

"Oh, not so good, struggling in fact, so, you know … Very good."

Okay ... how about this one:
I once asked a climber chick friend of mine what she thought about trying some meditation. Her answer: "I'd do it if I thought would help me, Roy, but that stuff's way too boring". (!)

 Hi Fritz!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 18, 2018 - 08:16pm PT
Hi Tar!

I stole this Christmas card photo of yours many years ago.

Still one of the best ever!

Anywhere!

Credit: Fritz
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Apr 18, 2018 - 08:18pm PT
Great Sand Dunes, Southern Colorado, Fritz.
Going hard at it.

 And actually, the woman whom I quoted just above (Sue Wint) took that picture!
MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Apr 19, 2018 - 09:39am PT
Tarbuster,

I may have written too much about communities. Sorry.

In my work, I saw that communities work because people come to know each other socially. In Japan and China, they'll take you out for a very late night with plenty of alcohol to see who they're really dealing with.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Apr 19, 2018 - 09:48am PT
Not by any stretch, Mike, did you write too much!
And I concur with all of it. (I tend to go all romper room on these topics, with a kind of jocular, tongue-in-cheek treatment throughout)

Have had some experience with Japanese businessmen!
They drink like fish!
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