Has Supertopo "jumped the shark"?


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'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 7, 2017 - 04:38pm PT
When the internet was in its infancy, a guy started www.jumptheshark.com.
This website spoke of long-running TV series - in particular Happy Days with Ron Howard as Richie Cunningham and Henry Winkler as Fonzie - popular even iconic places that had outlasted their time.

"Jumping the shark" referred to an episode whereby the writers had used up all their ideas, and out of apparent desperation they resorted to having Fonzie jumping over a shark on waterskis. Unbelievably lame, yet true. Remember, this show was supposed to be about teens in the 1950s. After a dozen seasons, these "teens" were well into their 30's, and The Beatles were nowhere to be seen.

So "jumping the shark" refers to something long in the tooth, that was once "the place to be" but now limps along.

Has Supertopo "jumped the shark"?

Supertopo seems lame these days - sad but true.

1) Anyone got stats on the number of hits this forum receives now, compared to the past?

2) Anyone else like me find precious little climbing content here?

3) Anyone else like me visit rarely, and when you do visit, are disappointed?

4) Anyone else find this place populated by a bunch of old-fart hasbeens, who don't climb anymore, but have annoying and irrelevant opinions on everything? And find the real climbers absent, except for a few notable exceptsions? [God bless you Vitaliy for putting up with us dinosaurs]

5) Anyone else dream of finding a great climbing post here, but departs disappointed frequently? [I am rethinking my position regarding Patrick/Avery, for instance, as I have really loved his Mt. Alberta N. Face thread].

6) There is no sixth thing

I've been asking Chris Mac for years to separate this place into two sections - climbing stuff and non-climbing stuff - but it remains the same as ever, full of annoying political posts and so on.

Don't give me the horsesh|t that this is a climbers' forum and not a climbing forum, either.

I'm bored. Unhappy. I want to learn stuff, and share stuff. Maybe I should write a book?

Is it time to move on to another place? What are the alternatives? Do I need to "get a life"? Do I need to go climb some rocks? Is the virtual campfire a thing of the past? Am I missing out on something Better in Life? Am I LAME?? I like to think of myself as " bitchin' " but am I really just a relic?

Please help me denizens of Supertopo! Should we try to make this place great again, like a Merrica? Or should we pack up our pigs and go home?

Let's hear your thoughts. Are you an active climber? A hasbeen? A neverbeen? A punter like me? A Big Wall Gumby like me? Or maybe you are a Real Live Hardman? You might even be a woman ... there are actually one or two left here, heavens knows why all the others left?

Yours in disappointment,
Tom Patterson

Trad climber
Jan 7, 2017 - 04:44pm PT
PtPP - I'm the hardest of the hardmen out there. There's no one on this forum that climbs at the level I do, and in fact, 5.16 is only imagined...because of me.

Sorry...channeling my inner "Trump--the Climber"...

I don't know about stats, etc., but I do know that--like Las Vegas--every so often, the bells go off, the lights start flashing wildly, because someone begins a thread that can only be found here. It keeps me coming back, and I always find some amazing gems here. I think it's worth wading through the crap for them.

Also...maybe you should write a book. You've got a buttload of El Cap routes under your swami, and I, for one, would enjoy a narrative of your experiences through the years.

Edge of the Electric Ocean Beneath Red Rock
Jan 7, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
I bet this is going to be a productive and supportive discussion.

Or the same assclowns you reference (my term for them, you were far more polite) will step in to gurgle on why their tail-chasing nonsensical bullshit babble is pertinent to this forum and not a news site comments section on an article.


Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Jan 7, 2017 - 04:59pm PT
Anyone else find this place populated by a bunch of old-fart hasbeens, who don't climb anymore, but have annoying and irrelevant opinions on everything?

Watch your tongue, Junior!

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:02pm PT
Pass The Piton Phonz...

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:11pm PT
And then there is the phylogenetic scale of beens from top to bottom...

The bottom two can never reach the exalted state of hasbeens

Two hasbeens...Jay Smith and I are off to carry loads into San Lorenzo....thats in Patagonia for you neverbeens.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2017 - 05:13pm PT
Aren't you eating frijoles right now, Jim?

LOCKER!! Laughing my ass off!!!!!1111

Yeah, who wants to hear from guys like John Ph*cking Gill and Jim Ph*cking Donini??? ;)

Show us a trick, John. Something current and gymnastic! A live selfie standing on your head or something. [be careful]
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:14pm PT
How'd you meet Anita?

'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 7, 2017 - 05:15pm PT
^^ Now THAT is a story, which you probably know...

So there I was, hanging out at McTopo, and this snarky email arrives in my inbox. I'm thinking, "This has to be Klaus, trolling me...."

But no, it appears to come from a legit person, Anita514. So I look up Anita on Facebook. How many Anitas from Montreal can there be? And I see this smokin' hot hottie with this Anita Look, taken from favourable camera angles, climbing all sorts of rocks.

And I'm like, Dang. I rather like the look of that girl. Most assuredly "my type". I would really like to get to know this Anita with the snarky email. So I "friend" her on Facebook, and she accepts. I peruse her profile, and I see ... [uh-oh] "In a relationship with Luc Monodoigt."

Qu'est-ce que tu le f*ck?

Now how can I compete with Luc Monodoigt? 'e is, 'ow you say? Ze great Franche climb-eur. 'e makes wit' da one-fingeur pullups on de monodoigt pockets, non? 'e is jeun, 'e is 'andsome, and all dat merde.

So I dismiss Anita as "out of my league", "too hot to handle" etc.

But I keep coming back to her profile, again and again .... You know, just because.

And then one day, lo and behold - a true life big wall miracle - her profile status reads, "Relationship status: single."

Single? SINGLE!!!!

So I go, "type type type type"....

And da rest is, 'ow you say? 'eestory, non?

New Zealand
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:25pm PT
What do you mean "rethink"?

My Alberta thread is back up and running.

I don't climb anymore (haven't for years) but I do try to put climbing content ahead of other things.

(PS: I'm not sure I should be posting this Pete. After-all it's not March/April yet. That's the time you said I'd be welcome to say hello)

Jan 7, 2017 - 05:25pm PT
1. Forum
2. Trip Reports
6. Really easily offended people. They're everywhere. Between them and the trolls, it's hard to keep a good thing going.

Big Wall climber
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:26pm PT
In 2003 the front page stayed the same for a few days total ghost town

Social climber
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:27pm PT
No way this forum rocks, I lurk here all the time waiting for the next lesson from the Bearbreeder, GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

Gym climber
Great White North
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:28pm PT

(I can't believe Reilly hasn't posted yet)

Jan 7, 2017 - 05:54pm PT
I may be wrong, but I think Susan's point may have been missed.


Mountain climber
Jan 7, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
I may be wrong, but I think Susan's point may have been missed.


Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jan 7, 2017 - 06:04pm PT
Jump the Shark?


Credit: Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Jan 7, 2017 - 06:07pm PT
Did the Happy Days shark jumping episode come before or after the episode where Fonzie battled an alien to pave way for the Robin Williams spin off?

Cuz you might have to ask if the Taco is "mind fvkking the Mork" instead.
the albatross

Gym climber
Jan 7, 2017 - 06:18pm PT
It seems like traffic has slowed down a bit in the last couple years.

I think a forum is what you make it and what you might expect to get out of it. I typically don't talk much about the climbing I've done though it's safe to say at least a third of the big wall aid and free routes in Arizona have my name attached as a tiny footnote (established 2002-2014). It's a personal thing for me, having had some rather nasty experiences in the past with climbers as a result of sharing. Plus most of those places I want to remain wild and maintain an aura of mystery.

Almost three years ago I watched a very close partner break his neck rope soloing which entailed a lengthy and complicated rescue, he recovered and has moved far out of state. Four months later my other closest adventure partner took his own life. Still get out climbing a bit here and there, mostly new crag routes.

PTPP you seem to enjoy sharing your climbing adventures on the Big Stone. I may have missed the TR, but if not it would be awesome to hear about that huge storm on El Cap last Fall.


Credit: the albatross
Crazy Bat

Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
Jan 7, 2017 - 06:19pm PT
I remember a cool thread about some dork being stuck and unable to find the route. It had fallen off. LOL
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