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Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 10, 2018 - 07:46pm PT
If you have not seen any discussion of the latest alarming report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in the media you read, you need to start reading other media. The executive summary for policymakers is only 33 pages long, and worth perusing. It is the most disturbing description of humanity’s destruction of the planet while ignoramuses like Donald Trump and a disturbing percentage of society continue to downplay, dismissing it as scaremongering and refusing to do anything to avoid it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/enriquedans/2018/10/09/combatting-global-warming-means-adopting-technology-now/#622e75fcd461
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 10, 2018 - 07:53pm PT
https://thenarwhal.ca/out-in-the-great-lakes-an-alarm-is-sounding/
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 10, 2018 - 08:50pm PT

See the climate report that shreds Trump's science denials

http://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/see-the-climate-report-that-shreds-trump-s-science-denials-1340467267867?v=railb&
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 10, 2018 - 09:10pm PT
Caught part of an interview with this british lady on NPR about climate change...She said the brits accept the theory of climate change while the USA has politicized it...Sad...
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Oct 12, 2018 - 10:10am PT
It's interesting to read the comments on the youtube videos about Hurricane Michael (my only "television" is Netflix, so I checked out youtube to get an idea of the damage). Climate change is sometimes mentioned overtly but it seems to be a subtext in almost all the comments. The tone seems to range from "I told you so" to "Nothing new here: that kind of thing has been happening forever in Florida". Many posts disparagingly refer to the type of construction: homes need to be built like concrete bunkers and so on, which I guess is one way to "invest" in climate change. But it was interesting, to me, the tone. When the last big hurricane that hit Florida did less damage than expected, I didn't see any posts about the need to build more concrete bunkers, and the "fake news" posts resonated in the comments.

Edit to add: the last video I watched (that showcased the aftermath of destruction) had a surprising amount of comments about how God is pissed and the "end days" are near. With so many people thinking like that, maybe they're right: the "end days" are near.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Oct 12, 2018 - 01:14pm PT
Water temperature in the eastern Gulf of Mexico Oct 8 about 4-5 F above normal, which provides more energy for hurricanes.

https://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/egof.html
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2018/anoma.10.8.2018.gif
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 12, 2018 - 01:41pm PT
So why aren't the Russians concerned about it?

Because umpteen millions think they'll benefit from a climate change. A Siberia that's a couple degrees warmer? Отлично!

This shows the intricacies of the mess we're in.
Gunks Ray

Trad climber
Gunks
Oct 12, 2018 - 02:32pm PT
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What other country might think that rising temperatures might be good for them besides a very large very northern sparsely populated country that isn't Canada?

And because one of Russia's only sources of revenue is the sale of OIL and GAS products, so the attempt to slow down or stop global warming would stop the sale of the only viable product that Russia has to sell besides arms!
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 12, 2018 - 03:20pm PT
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 13, 2018 - 09:04pm PT

Billionaires Are the Leading Cause of Climate Change

https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 15, 2018 - 06:12am PT
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 15, 2018 - 06:54am PT
https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/who-is-we-causing-climate-change.html
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Oct 15, 2018 - 07:28am PT
Pretty apropos cartoon there, imo.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Oct 15, 2018 - 04:09pm PT
Some forms of insanity are beyond understanding. Especially those forms that in fact harm the believer.
Self delusion
Deny authority
Fake scepticism

Then you succumb to the myths
It's a commie plot
Scientists aren't to be believed
If it exists God will take care of it because we are his chosen people

Then you listen to the Capitalists who are only give a F--K about their own fortunes
Koch Bros
Trump


And ipso facto your conclusions:
Who gives a flying F--K about the Arctic anyway?
Drill baby drill!
It's a con job by Soros
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 15, 2018 - 07:28pm PT
the cartoon portrays homo sapiens (haha) response to a pending extinction event



the earth has survived several extinction events

plants & animals ... not so much

https://cosmosmagazine.com/palaeontology/big-five-extinctions

End Ordovician, 444 million years ago, 86% of species lost
Late Devonian, 375 million years ago, 75% of species lost
End Permian, 251 million years ago, 96% of species lost
End Triassic, 200 million years ago, 80% of species lost
End Cretaceous, 66 million years ago, 76% of all species lost
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 15, 2018 - 08:12pm PT
Is there any correlation between high CO2 & extinction events?

End Ordovician, 444 million years ago, 86% of species lost
Late Devonian, 375 million years ago, 75% of species lost
End Permian, 251 million years ago, 96% of species lost
End Triassic, 200 million years ago, 80% of species lost
End Cretaceous, 66 million years ago, 76% of all species lost



http://www.johnenglander.net/co2-levels-and-mass-extinction-events/
https://climatecrocks.com/2011/01/31/graph-of-the-day-co2-and-extinction-events/
http://news.mit.edu/2017/mathematics-predicts-sixth-mass-extinction-0920
dgbryan

Mountain climber
Hong Kong
Oct 15, 2018 - 08:27pm PT
//End Ordovician, 444 million years ago, 86% of species lost
Late Devonian, 375 million years ago, 75% of species lost
End Permian, 251 million years ago, 96% of species lost
End Triassic, 200 million years ago, 80% of species lost
End Cretaceous, 66 million years ago, 76% of all species lost//

This has cheered me up, in an odd kind of way ...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 15, 2018 - 09:22pm PT
hah, species schmecies... it's about beer!

Decreases in global beer supply due to extreme drought and heat

Wei Xie, Wei Xiong, Jie Pan, Tariq Ali, Qi Cui, Dabo Guan, Jing Meng, Nathaniel D. Mueller, Erda Lin & Steven J. Davis

Nature Plants
(2018)
http://www.nature.com/articles/s41477-018-0263-1

Abstract
Beer is the most popular alcoholic beverage in the world by volume consumed, and yields of its
main ingredient, barley, decline sharply in periods of extreme drought and heat. Although the
frequency and severity of drought and heat extremes increase substantially in range of future
climate scenarios by five Earth System Models, the vulnerability of beer supply to such extremes
has never been assessed. We couple a process-based crop model (decision support system for
agrotechnology transfer) and a global economic model (Global Trade Analysis Project model) to
evaluate the effects of concurrent drought and heat extremes projected under a range of future
climate scenarios. We find that these extreme events may cause substantial decreases in barley
yields worldwide. Average yield losses range from 3% to 17% depending on the severity of the
conditions. Decreases in the global supply of barley lead to proportionally larger decreases in
barley used to make beer and ultimately result in dramatic regional decreases in beer
consumption (for example, −32% in Argentina) and increases in beer prices (for example,
+193% in Ireland). Although not the most concerning impact of future climate change, climate-
related weather extremes may threaten the availability and economic accessibility of beer.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Oct 15, 2018 - 11:05pm PT
can also allow the conditions that cause California to be pummeled by wet, winter storms to last longer."

the more likely prediction for california most years is:
1. the high pressure causing drought
2. warmer storms with rain instead of snow, causing less snowpack.
3. warmer temps causing faster melting, resulting in less water storage.

California is likely to have more and longer droughts.

But it would be a mistake to think that more droughts means floods are a thing of the past.
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Oct 16, 2018 - 05:25am PT
The release of highly poisonous hydrogen sulfide gas from anoxic ocean waters is beginning anew.

Although the end-Permian extinction happened over a quarter of a billion years ago, the events that triggered it have added significance in the light of current-day climate change. ‘Satellite remote sensing has clearly shown that massive fish mortality in the Namibian coastal waters are associated with sulfidic waters,’ says Shen. ‘As a matter of fact, due to human-induced eutrophication and global warming, the episodic occurrence of hydrogen sulfide has been reported in many coastal waters – such as those of the Gulf of Mexico, California and western India.’

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/ocean-chemistry-changes-triggered-earths-greatest-extinction-event/2500368.article
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