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clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Nov 28, 2018 - 10:48am PT
The cyanobacteria have an extensive fossil record. The oldest known fossils, in fact, are cyanobacteria from Archaean rocks of western Australia, dated 3.5 billion years old. This may be somewhat surprising, since the oldest rocks are only a little older: 3.8 billion years old!
Fossil Record of the Cyanobacteria - UCMP Berkeley
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/bacteria/cyanofr.html

For the entire history of life on Earth there have been cyanobacteria photosynthesizing oxygen (O2). Even a small amount of O2 may have been enough to prevent much of the H2 from escaping to space.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Nov 28, 2018 - 01:14pm PT
Rising insurance costs may convince Americans that climate change risks are real

I used to have a lot of hope that insurance costs would drive better policy and it still might some.

But that was before I saw the state of Florida give homeowners guarantees for hurricane damage and CA pass laws to protect homeowners and PG&E from the cost of fires.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 30, 2018 - 06:22pm PT
Climate change is man made but not the result of auto emissions...It's caused by the giant wind turbines that generate electricity ... The blades generate drag slowing the earths rotation reducing the air flow that cools the earth's surface....Judge Judy is an alternate judge on the US Supreme Court...Many famous rulings...
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Dec 3, 2018 - 07:44am PT
Meanwhile, in France....

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Dec 3, 2018 - 09:51am PT
^^^you’re right there, aren’t you... ET, phone home
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Dec 3, 2018 - 10:05am PT
1 out of 10 thought that Judge Judy was a member of the Supreme Court.

Maybe 9 out of 10 were wrong.

New York's trial level courts are called the Supreme Court (every other state calls if Superior court) and the honorable judge was at one time a family court judge in Manhattan, so she was on the Supreme Court.

edit: disclaimer, I am in no way defending the intelligence of the American public
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Dec 3, 2018 - 10:21am PT
Moosedrule....Thanks for recognizing the genius i bring to supertopo...
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Dec 3, 2018 - 01:28pm PT
Collapse of Industrial Civilization

https://collapseofindustrialcivilization.com/tag/arctic-blue-ocean-event/

wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Dec 3, 2018 - 02:05pm PT
“Phone home”.

LOL
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Dec 4, 2018 - 08:10pm PT
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/12/04/671996313/fishermen-sue-big-oil-for-its-role-in-climate-change?

More and more lawsuits against the fossil fuel industry.
Despite anti-science support from the trumpeters, some fossil fuel companies are seeking refuge & hedging their bets, such as Exxon-Mobil ploy to promote carbon tax in return for release of all their liabilities for 40 years of Lies.

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/5/17519236/colorado-climate-change-lawsuit-exxon-suncor
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Dec 5, 2018 - 12:46pm PT
I don't know if this has been posted before, but Savory makes what appears to be an ironclad case for vastly increasing grazing herds around the world. This TED talk is absolutely worth your while, and aficionados of grass-fed beef will be cheered (sorry, vegans):

[Click to View YouTube Video]

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monolith

climber
state of being
Dec 5, 2018 - 02:00pm PT
^^ Allan Savory pseudo science, debunked below.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/04/allan-savorys-ted-talk-is-wrong-and-the-benefits-of-holistic-grazing-have-been-debunked.html

https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/2017-2-march-april/feature/allan-savory-says-more-cows-land-will-reverse-climate-change
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Dec 5, 2018 - 08:42pm PT
Bummer. I need to read some of the studies linked in those articles. So did Savory fabricate his reports in the talk? How do we explain the transformed landscapes that he presented using his techniques? Those were some very compelling images. Bogus?

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Edit: Read the Sierra Club piece. The guy seems like something of a crank, although his method probably has value in the right context. The idea, though, that flat-out desert can be greened by butt-loads of cattle is false, of course. No amount of "grazing" can turn the Mojave into a grassy paradise. But there was something going on when we had roughly 30 million head of bison roaring across the landscape pre-Euros.
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Dec 6, 2018 - 07:01am PT
Global carbon emissions to hit record levels in 2018, scientists warn

According to the report, global carbon emissions from fossil fuel and industry are expected to grow by 2.7 percent from 2017 to 2018, meaning that the world will spew some 40.9 billion tons of the substance this year, up from 39.8 billion tons in 2017.

The spike in emissions comes as almost no growth had been recorded for the past last three years.

Fossil fuel emissions are estimated to rise this year by 4.7 percent in China, the world’s biggest carbon emitter, 6.3 percent in India, and 2.5 percent in the United States. The European Union (EU), however, showed a decrease by 0.7 percent this year.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/12/06/582128/carbon-emissions-2018-record-levels

https://www.google.com/search?q=record+carbon+emissions&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
WBraun

climber
Dec 6, 2018 - 09:30am PT
As more water runs off the ice sheet, it drives sea level rise,

Yes all that water will go into the ocean and then sun will take it and make clouds, rain will fall everywhere and make crops grow everywhere and everyone will live happily ever after .....
TradMike

Trad climber
Cincinnati, Ohio
Dec 7, 2018 - 09:55am PT
I think the big thing that people are not seeing is the collapse of the oceans and what impact that would have. Once the ocean gets too acidic due to all the carbon we are dumping into it and add to it all fertilizer aka the nitrogen we are dumping into it and then add some more heat, you get a toxic mess. It will take the forms of red tides, algae, seaweed as the foreshadowing. Then everything collapses and all oxygen disappears. Anyone who has dabbled with a saltwater fish tanks knows the cycle and what happens when the nitrates build up too much. You can do a water change in a fish tank to reduce nitrates but who will do an Ocean water change before it collapses? Everyone thought the oceans were soo vast that it wouldn't happen but it is starting and this is what scares me the most. Forget about climate change, we won't be able to breath since most of our oxygen comes from the oceans. Global population is the blame. Whoever said that the Nitrogen cycle is the problem is correct. Carbon is just a side problem to our bigger problem.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141127212346.htm
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Dec 7, 2018 - 01:36pm PT
Abrupt Warming - How Much And How Fast?

How much could temperatures rise? As the image shows, a rise of more than 10°C (18°F) could take place, resulting in mass extinction of man...


http://arctic-news.blogspot.com
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Dec 7, 2018 - 11:15pm PT
No one is really talking about "killing the planet" or the end of the world.
The issue is changing it very significantly, enough to change society as we know it, in which case the impacts and costs of adapting are more than the cost of reducing GHGs in the first place.


Punitive action is a good term for those who spew lots of GHGs imposing huge impacts on other people who don't.
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Dec 8, 2018 - 09:07am PT
Awakening the Horrors of the Ancient Hothouse — Hydrogen Sulfide in the World’s Warming Oceans

“Dead Cthulu waits dreaming…” H.P. Lovecraft

In the 1930s, pulp horror writer H.P. Lovecraft penned tales of ancient monsters called Old Ones that, if awakened, would emerge to devour the world. One of these horrors, Cthulu, lay in death’s sleep in his house called R’lyeh at the bottom of the Baltic Sea (Charles Stross) awaiting some impetus to disturb him from necrotic slumber (ironically, the Baltic sea bed contains one of the world’s highest concentrations of the deadly hydrogen-sulfide producing bacteria that are a focus of this article).

https://robertscribbler.com/2014/01/21/awakening-the-horrors-of-the-ancient-hothouse-hydrogen-sulfide-in-the-worlds-warming-oceans/
Lituya

Mountain climber
Dec 9, 2018 - 11:23am PT
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who-pays-for-a-carbon-tax-no-one-knows-e2-80-94-thats-the-problem/ar-BBQI7FG

The popularity of carbon taxes on the green left is understandable, if naïve. Imposing a tax on the consumption of anything predictably reduces the quantity of the taxed thing that people are willing to consume. The trouble is that no one knows who will bear the burden of a carbon tax; what economists call tax "incidence."
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