Climate Change: Why aren't more people concerned about it?

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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 20, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
Humans have had a tremendous influence, almost all negative, on the natural world. Thankfully, that influence is transient and will disappear when we have exited the stage....hopefully sooner rather than later. The earth, 4.5 billion years old, will heal itself in a short time...geologically speaking.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jul 20, 2017 - 06:39pm PT
Born from elements blown off by super nova's, bombarded by debris largest enough to cast off the moon, hellishly hot for a billion years, totally frozen over for hundreds of million of years, up to 90% of species suddenly made extinct by asteroid impacts, huge shield volcanoes and perhaps a few gamma ray burst events. All this and your worried for Earth enough to wish for your species extinction because of minor release of trace atmospheric gases and small scale human terraforming? You guys live in a bubble of paranoia unable to appreciate cosmic scale. SAD.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 20, 2017 - 06:58pm PT
Wishing has as much of an effect on outcomes as praying....zero. The extinction of my species is inevitable. The earth has been here for 4.5 billion years and it is estimated to have about that amount of time remaining. Species will come and go....the dinosaurs 160,000,000 year reign will be hard to beat.
Who knows what life forms will follow us.....hopefully they will be better stewards.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 20, 2017 - 07:09pm PT
You guys live in a bubble of paranoia unable to appreciate cosmic scale. SAD.

you should tweet this... be right in line with the level of your understanding...
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jul 20, 2017 - 07:15pm PT
On the bright side, after every great mass extinction comes massive speciation.

All those new species in the future will thank us for the freed up niches :)
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Jul 20, 2017 - 07:33pm PT
What happened to the ozone hole and why aren't we all dead from that? I was told that in the 90s. If we didn't quit using spray cans and fridges with chemicals that make the ozone hole we were gone in 5 years.

Why isn't that issue added to the climate change narrative? Or is it no longer a threat?
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jul 20, 2017 - 07:47pm PT
Check out Title VI of the CAA if you are interested in ozone holes. Or you could just post ignorant sh#t on the internet.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Jul 20, 2017 - 08:29pm PT
If I wasn't ignorant about it I would not have asked questions. Thanks for being so nice about it.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 20, 2017 - 08:45pm PT
What happened to the ozone hole and why aren't we all dead from that? I was told that in the 90s. If we didn't quit using spray cans and fridges with chemicals that make the ozone hole we were gone in 5 years.


we quit doing that stuff and stablized the ozone...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jul 24, 2017 - 06:06am PT


The Keeling Curve, named after Charles Keeling who first alerted the world to the dangers of human-caused climate change, records the daily change in atmospheric carbon.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jul 24, 2017 - 07:28am PT
Tooth, I apologize for being snippy.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jul 24, 2017 - 01:35pm PT
The facts, research, and science behind the climate-change article that explored our planet’s worst-case scenarios.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans-annotated.html
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jul 24, 2017 - 03:12pm PT
when it comes to the challenge of climate change, public complacency is a far, far bigger problem than widespread fatalism — that many, many more people are not scared enough than are already “too scared.” In fact, I don’t even understand what “too scared” would mean. The science says climate change threatens nearly every aspect of human life on this planet, and that inaction will hasten the problems. In that context, I don’t think it’s a slur to call an article, or its writer, alarmist. I’ll accept that characterization. We should be alarmed.

ibid

The vast majority of people do not have an accurate understanding of how bad climate change has already gotten or how bad it is likely to get, much less how bad it could get if we keep electing crazy people.

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/7/11/15950966/climate-change-doom-journalism
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jul 24, 2017 - 05:39pm PT
Re. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-earth-too-hot-for-humans-annotated.html

Thank you for posting that, Malemute! Everyone on this forum should read it.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 24, 2017 - 06:03pm PT
Everyone on this forum should read it.

But not everyone should believe it. When I read lines like "the science says," I literally laugh out loud.

The list of failed predictions regarding climate change is already epic. "The science says:" it just doesn't know.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jul 24, 2017 - 08:32pm PT
Failed predictions like the ice caps melting...?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 24, 2017 - 10:04pm PT
The list of failed predictions regarding climate change is already epic.

however, the initial analysis by Arrhenius in 1896 turns out to be correct...
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Jul 25, 2017 - 10:50am PT
mb1: why do you hate the environment?
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 25, 2017 - 10:52am PT
mb1: why do you hate the environment?

Dumb ass question splatter, don't ya think?

I have one for you.

When did you stop beating little kids?

c wilmot

climber
Jul 25, 2017 - 10:57am PT
When did you stop beating little kids?

Spare the rod spoil the child....


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