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Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 25, 2018 - 07:19am PT
how can you describe a radically changing climate and follow it up by pronouncing that its a hoax?

To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 25, 2018 - 07:31am PT
It was 80F in London the other day!
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Apr 25, 2018 - 08:01am PT
It ain't easy being green.

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 26, 2018 - 05:17am PT
Tabasco is concerned:
https://earther.com/tabasco-sauce-is-in-a-battle-for-its-very-survival-1825510123
When we walk out of the warehouse into the sun and breathable air, though, we come across one of the few conspicuous changes Avery Island has seen over the past century: a 17-foot levee that encircles 38 acres of the Tabasco operation. The company was forced to make this $5 million investment in 2005 after Hurricane Rita nearly flooded the facility.

Even though it’s only 152 feet above sea level at its peak, Avery Island is one the highest points in the Gulf Coast. A two hour drive west of New Orleans, it sits atop an enormous salt dome that bulges from the earth, elevating the land above the swamps and bayous that surround it. A generation ago, it was unthinkable that this natural fortress could be overcome by water. But Hurricane Rita’s threatening surges were a symptom of an immense shift in the Gulf Coast, the result of decades of harsh land use practices and climate change.

“The waters are rising,” Osborn says.

Now, the McIlhennys are fighting to save the island to which their family history and business are inextricably linked.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 26, 2018 - 08:39am PT
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Apr 26, 2018 - 11:00am PT
You can now expect Ford to argue for rules that favor SUVs, trucks, and CUVs, since they are dropping all vehicles that get good gas mileage.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/abandon-car-ford-dropping-all-passenger-car-models-except-mustang
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Apr 26, 2018 - 11:13am PT
The Delta is sinking faster than the waters are rising, a 1/3 inch per year. This due to corps of engineering "harnessing" the Mississippi, preventing spring floods and stopping or drastically slowing the recharge of sediments into the Delta. New Orleans is sinking, but so is the whole Delta coast, under it's own weight.

Atlantis in the making, and not strictly a child of climate change.

And it is also losing its coastline because of the lack of sediment, which means a storm surge comes further and further inland.

I don't see how it is going to be possible to give New Orleans reasonable flood protection over the next 100+ years. Same with southern Florida.

But I expect tax payers will pay hundreds of billions in a futile attempt.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
May 4, 2018 - 12:07pm PT
government policies matter.
More on Ford switch to SUVs & trucks - easy to pass CAFE rules.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-real-reason-ford-is-phasing-out-its-sedans/ar-AAwHSHJ?ocid=spartanntp
Lituya

Mountain climber
May 7, 2018 - 12:42pm PT
Interesting piece:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/tourism-nearly-a-tenth-of-global-co2-emissions/ar-AAwTrKu?OCID=ansmsnnews11
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
May 11, 2018 - 11:22pm PT
One of the creepier conclusions drawn by scientists studying the Anthropocene—the proposed epoch of Earth’s geologic history in which humankind’s activities dominate the globe—is how closely today’s industrially induced climate change resembles conditions seen in past periods of rapid temperature rise.

“If an industrial civilization had existed on Earth many millions of years prior to our own era, what traces would it have left and would they be detectable today?”

Finally, solid scientific PROOF that the Nephilim really existed!

And it's really a great relief, because the Nephilim caused comparable global warming back then, yet we're here today, so, well, you can draw the obvious conclusion for yourself.

I am thankful every day for the Nephilim. They show us the way.
WBraun

climber
May 14, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
Nothing has changed.

The world is still st00pid as hell .......
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
May 14, 2018 - 06:03pm PT
^^^ LOL, no doubt, my friend. No doubt.

Sadly, I must shake my head and admit that I'm no different. That's not "false humility." It's just an acknowledgement of the fact that I think that I live in the depths of a very deep, dank epistemic hole. Even my most closely-held beliefs are "it seems to me that...." I don't believe that human beings are capable of any better.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
May 17, 2018 - 04:55pm PT
Someone in east Asia has started new production of banned CFCs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/05/16/someone-somewhere-is-making-a-banned-chemical-that-destroys-the-ozone-layer-scientists-suspect/?utm_term=.42667e8424e3

Not that this is a reason for everyone else to ruin the world.
The cheaters will be caught.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
May 18, 2018 - 08:19pm PT
What will the duck eat when insects disappear...?
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Jun 1, 2018 - 12:51pm PT
NASA’s newest carbon-observing mission in orbit, launched in 2014, is the Orbiting Carbon Observatory-2

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-invested-in-cracking-earth-s-carbon-puzzle
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Jun 1, 2018 - 05:07pm PT
A greenhouse gas is billowing into the atmosphere...
Not exactly.
as I linked on May 17,
CFC-11 (Freon) main problem is to deplete ozone, which allows more UV radiation to reach the surface. Its direct effect as a GHG is a second problem.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180516162520.htm

still being sold in China
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/may-26-2018-cheating-on-the-ozone-treaty-nano-nutrients-for-crops-why-birds-almost-died-out-1.4675194/scientists-discover-secret-polluters-may-be-eroding-the-ozone-layer-1.4675211
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jun 5, 2018 - 04:44pm PT

This morning.
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Jun 6, 2018 - 06:58am PT
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201804

Arctic Ocean ice changes from 1984:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2018/05/Figure_4ad_correctedV2.png

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 6, 2018 - 09:18am PT
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6391/877

A 550,000-year record of East Asian monsoon rainfall from ¹⁰Be in loess

J. Warren Beck, Weijian Zhou, Cheng Li, Zhenkun Wu, Lara White, Feng Xian, Xianghui Kong, Zhisheng An

Abstract
Cosmogenic ¹⁰Be flux from the atmosphere is a proxy for rainfall. Using this proxy, we derived a 550,000-year-long record of East Asian summer monsoon (EASM) rainfall from Chinese loess. This record is forced at orbital precession frequencies, with higher rainfall observed during Northern Hemisphere summer insolation maxima, although this response is damped during cold interstadials. The ¹⁰Be monsoon rainfall proxy is also highly correlated with global ice-volume variations, which differs from Chinese cave δ¹⁸O, which is only weakly correlated. We argue that both EASM intensity and Chinese cave δ¹⁸O are not governed by high-northern-latitude insolation, as suggested by others, but rather by low-latitude interhemispheric insolation gradients, which may also strongly influence global ice volume via monsoon dynamics.
clifff

Mountain climber
golden, rollin hills of California
Jun 8, 2018 - 03:36pm PT


http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2018/05/Figure_4ad_correctedV2.png

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
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