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monolith
climber
state of being
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:14pm PT
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Jody likes to showcase his ignorance of science.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:32pm PT
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Nobody said, “bring out the gimp!”
Get back in your box.
And get a zyprexa prescription for your new world disorder.
And Jody you should just go back to eating donuts and cleaning toilets.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:45pm PT
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I'm to the right of you in that picture, Jody.
just sayin'
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:49pm PT
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we all die, at we can at least hope our friends will get together when it happens
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Jan 23, 2018 - 09:54pm PT
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Hope you enjoyed your moment with Ed—the closest you’ve ever gotten to intelligent.
maybe a day will come where those in denial will have their heads lopped off!
Is this what the voices are telling you now? Get on those meds boy; ask for olanzapine. This is what we call paranoid ideation.
Edit
An ER RN. When you present a danger to yourself or others I look forward to putting you in restraints and administering a B52.
v v v v v
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jan 24, 2018 - 07:45am PT
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I'm to the right of you in that picture, Jody.
just sayin'
Post of the year.
Thanks Ed.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Jan 28, 2018 - 03:19pm PT
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If climate change is a hoax, why was golf being played on my x-c ski course today?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Found under NOBODY CARES ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Just look at those hokey charts from Mr. ET. Ha, what a laugh.
If you really want to know what Bloomberg says, read their report from 2017:
https://about.bnef.com/clean-energy-investment/
Here's one quote:
World clean energy investment totaled $333.5 billion last year, up 3% from 2016 and the second highest annual figure ever, taking cumulative investment since 2010 to $2.5 trillion.
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Solar investment globally amounted to $160.8 billion in 2017, up 18% on the previous year despite these cost reductions.
Looks like this Bloomberg Report has the real graphs:
https://europa.eu/capacity4dev/unep/documents/global-trends-renewable-energy-investment-2017
From this:
Global Trends in Renewable Energy Investment 2017 finds that wind, solar, biomass and waste-to-energy, geothermal, small hydro and marine sources added 138.5 gigawatts to global power capacity in 2016, up 8 per cent from the 127.5 gigawatts added the year before. The added generating capacity roughly equals that of the world's 16 largest existing power producing facilities combined.
@EdwardT, from where do you get your fake news?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I guess my retard neighbor didn’t get the memo.
Pretty sure she’s part of ‘Jerry’s Gang’.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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EdwardT, can I ask you - Do you regularly watch Fox News? It's just a little survey that I need another data point for.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
Feb 7, 2018 - 05:35pm PT
Just look at those hokey charts from Mr. ET. Ha, what a laugh.
Hokey charts?
The first shows how insignificant wind and solar power are in the big picture. Two percent of the total. That's yuge!!! "Stop the presses!"
The second shows a significant steady increase in renewable energy from 2004 to 2011, then a relative flat-line in growth over the last six years.
You claim "Bloomberg Report has the real graphs" and ask about my fake news.
Are the graphs I posted incorrect?
How so?
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Feb 12, 2018 - 09:48pm PT
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Have you noticed this underlying sense of tense excitement amongst us as we discuss the end of the world as we know it?
All this earnest angst makes me feel like a thirteen year old on the cusp of his first solo orgasm.
Or it could just be a retro REM song -
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Do any of you really believe that "we" can fix this self-made mess?
The earth is just going to shake us off like a bad case of the fleas - your AI, VR and whatever be damned.
Nice violin there Nero.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Feb 13, 2018 - 08:27am PT
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Sea level rise is accelerating.
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2018/02/06/1717312115.full.pdf
Significance
Satellite altimetry has shown that global mean sea level has been rising at a rate of ∼3 ± 0.4 mm/y since 1993. Using the altimeter record coupled with careful consideration of interannual and decadal variability as well as potential instrument errors, we show that this rate is accelerating at 0.084 ± 0.025 mm/y2, which agrees well with climate model projections. If sea level continues to change at this rate and acceleration, sea-level rise by 2100 (∼65 cm) will be more than double the amount if the rate was constant at 3 mm/y.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Feb 13, 2018 - 11:33am PT
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"The earth is just going to shake us off like a bad case of the fleas"
That's right. The "earth" doesn't care about humans any more than it did about the passenger pigeon. The "earth" doesn't care about the earth. Eventually it will burn up in the supernova.
There will be massive impacts on hundreds of millions of people, and everyone will be affected to some degree. This has already begun; however it will mostly occur gradually over the next 30-100 years. So let's all just stick our heads in the sand, and not worry about anyone else. Just like the federal debt. party on Galt!
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Feb 13, 2018 - 11:43am PT
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Do any of you really believe that "we" can fix this self-made mess?
My analogy is that climate change is like the early stages of emphysema.
Is the patient going to cold turkey quite smoking. Probably not. But any reduction in the number of cigarettes a day gives the patient a better future than business as usual.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Feb 13, 2018 - 12:41pm PT
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Actual facts about growth in renewables.
https://www.iea.org/publications/renewables2017/
The growth in renewable power will be twice as large as gas and coal combined over the next five years, the IEA said. While that will take renewables’ share of electricity generation from 24% last year to 30% in 2022, coal will still be the biggest source of power.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/04/solar-power-renewables-international-energy-agency
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2018/01/solar-grabs-half-of-global-renewables-investment-in-2017-reaching-161-billion.html
https://www.nationofchange.org/2017/10/05/china-showing-world-renewable-energy-dominance-looks-like-says-new-iea-report/
India targets
https://www.wri.org/sites/default/files/uploads/India_Energy_Map_v4-03.png
Even in the USA, from 2010 to 2016, in quadrillion BTUs,
solar went from .08 to .61
wind went from .88 to 2.14
These are massive percentage increases, especially considering most areas continue to be highly pro-fossil fuels in their policies.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/images/charts/energy_consumption_by_source_large.jpg
https://www.eia.gov/renewable/annual/preliminary/images/figure_1.jpg
https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/energy/energy_archive/energy_flow_2010/LLNLUSEnergy2010.pdf
https://www.llnl.gov/news/americans-used-more-clean-energy-2016
Of course, Actual growth in renewables will continue to lag behind where it should be wherever there is no proper carbon tax (revenue neutral).
Any stall in USA renewable energy growth is because the no-nothings are in charge in most areas. That says nothing about what could be done if the idiots were not running the circus. Additionally, since the cost of wind and solar has already dropped dramatically, some leveling off in dollars does not indicate any leveling off in kilowatt hours.
On 8 Jan 2018, the US federal energy regulatory commission rejected a plan by the Donald Trump-led US administration to provide subsidies for coal-fired and nuclear power plants. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/08/donald-trump-coal-industry-plan-rejected-rick-perry
California is an example of what is possible in renewable energy growth.
"California is on track to reach 50% of their renewable energy goal ten years ahead of schedule, according to the California Public Utilities Commission RPS (Renewable Portfolio Standard) report, released back in November. The state’s primary utilities have already met (or are about to exceed) their renewable energy target of 33% by 2020 and is on track to hit their 2030 goal of 50% by 2020, far surpassing any other state in the union.
The big three utilities- Pacific Gas and Electric Co. (PG&E), Southern California Edison (SCE), and San Diego Gas & Electric Co. (SDG&E), all surpassed the 25% requirement to meet the 2016 goal. The breakdown is as follows:
-PG&E accounted for 32.9% of renewable energy produced electricity.
-SCE accounted for 28.2% of renewable energy produced electricity.
-SDG&E accounted for the highest with 43.2% of renewable energy produced electricity.
According to the RPS, all three companies predict they will meet or exceed their 2020 compliance goals before the target date, which is impressive considering the RPS program has also reduced the cost of renewables with solar falling 77% (from 2008 to 2016) and wind dropping by 47% (from 2007 to 2015). The state began their endeavor to ‘go green,’ requiring energy utilities to increase their use of renewables back in 2002. Current Governor Brown and former Governator Schwarzenegger ramped-up the initiative for cleaner energy over time, which led to the RPS program, with Brown touting California’s ability to “boost renewable power and lower emissions while growing it’s economy,” according to a November article by San Francisco Chronicle.
That being said, California’s emissions have been declining since 2008 and are expected to continue over the next few decades before the state’s electrical production comes from 100% renewable energy by 2045.
https://www.element14.com/community/groups/power-management/blog/2018/02/13/california-on-track-to-meet-green-energy-goals-a-decade-early
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