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Rattlesnake Arch
Social climber
Home is where we park it
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Okay, these belong here.
Totally awesome......thanks for the post.
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Scott Thelen
Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
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So rad!!!
How do I get down lol
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jan 15, 2019 - 07:27am PT
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Effin' wow! I almost wanted to cry watching him pull all those tough pitches. Just astounding. Thanks, Sula for your comments.
Re. "greatest ever" on El Cap: It should be noted that Yuji did virtually the same kind of performance years ago--almost flashed the whole thing but for a couple of falls. These kids are just too good.
BAd
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jan 15, 2019 - 09:32am PT
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No much attention for something that ranks as probably the greatest climbing performance ever on El Cap.
You did mean by a human? Not AI(or AH).
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Jan 15, 2019 - 02:01pm PT
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I disagree, All those folks amazed the sh#t out of me but I never said "no way". I had to eat my words with Ondra. I mean Tommy is such a bad ass and has so much Elcap under his belt and how long did it take him??? Then Ondra just walks up to the base and does it. Most impressive to me.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jan 15, 2019 - 08:26pm PT
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Drove from SF Bay to LA this afternoon, and listened to a fun recent interview with Adam Ondra on Enormocast.
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Touque
Trad climber
Santacruzcalif
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Jan 17, 2019 - 12:14pm PT
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I think he will pull every climb he tries he's got some special climbing skills go get adam
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Milkman_photos
Trad climber
California, San Francisco
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Jan 18, 2019 - 07:36am PT
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He didn't send the salathe (any variation), he jugged out on the cameraman's fixed lines after a couple headwall tries, cause it was "getting dark".
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jan 18, 2019 - 11:48am PT
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If you look at Adam Ondra's body, seems to have a larger amount of tissue devoted to ligaments and tendons, compared to most people.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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Jan 18, 2019 - 03:49pm PT
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Naitch wrote: [Ondra] so far hasn't displayed the vision that Caldwell and Honnold have IMHO.
huh...
 first and only claimed 15d rp; to date unrepeated
first 15c rp; and with the first three of the four 15c's currently in existence all being ondra first ascents and with, to date, only one of his three being repeated by a single climber
over 1500 redpoints and onsights of routes graded 13b or harder
basically first and arguably the only person to consolidate the 5.15 grade by climbing over 60 [or a little over half of all] of the 5.15a's or harder that are currently in existence
first and to date only 15a flash
second 14d os
about 20 on sights of 14c or harder, including the mystique-surrounded just do it
and then just for kicks a 20ish day redpoint of the hardest long rock route currently in existence... a route that many of the yocal digerati prophesied wouldn’t get a repeat for five or ten or twenty years...
along with all of the rest of the more mundane things he's done... including [as Alexey mentioned below] eating up basically every rock climbing style for breakfast and so on sighting everything from 5.13 dean potter desert testpieces to runout 5.13 polished yos slabs along with all of the usual limestone sport routes in between...
due to the combination of the above i'd argue that the last climber, before ondra, who, on a global stage, was as visionary in terms of how far they pushed the bar out ahead of the time they climbed in [while also consolidating the bleeding edge left by previous climbers]...
was gullich.
and then before gullich i'd argue you'd have to go back to gill.
and before gill i'd argue you'd probably have to go all of the way back to oliver perry-smith... [although that one becomes a bit harder to have a super strong opinion on]
so... less vision, than caldwell or honnold?
while ondra's vision might be one that many people have had and so in that way it might be easy to consider it "less visionary", i'd argue exactly the opposite:
just about every climber who has ever pushed themselves to the edges of their potential has likely dreamt, relative to their time, of doing even half of what ondra has done...
yet, almost nobody, in a 100+ yr history has brought the perfect storm to the technical rock climbing table that ondra has.
having a vision is easy, sometimes even boring.
executing a vision on the other hand?
imesho, in the history of our game it has been very, very, very, very, very rare and with regards to pure rock climbing difficulty i'd argue that there have only been three to maybe at most five other climbers throughout our history who have pushed things as far as ondra already has, relative to their times...
and so in the process been as visionary.
cheers though, always good to have an excuse to throw down a h.o.... ha!
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Alexey
climber
San Jose, CA
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Jan 18, 2019 - 05:03pm PT
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good summary nah000! last coffin nail in " Valley Syndrome" lol . And he is only 25 years old! and he is willing to climb absolutely different stile of climbing
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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It is after all an all ADAM thread.
But
I left it for days,
thinking : it can't just be me, can it?
No one else pointed out the glaring omissions in Nahooo's tally
(Pushing 3 grades beyond the norm of the day?! For their respective times and the eras?)
The "H's" alone were glaring!
Lynn Hill
Hot Henry!
Hidetaka - yeah you didn't need to use his last name
that skinny piece of gristle Suzuki!
Hugh Herr
Yuji Hirayama
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that said
I'd venture to mention It;
to try to list them all is impossible.
I keep adding a list then taking it back out of this post
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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While watching Ondra's IGMAKed video, it struck me that his successes in the Valley were like Henry Barber's: walk to the base, climb to the top, rave about the climbing, compliment the locals, go somewhere else...repeat.
The first time Henry Barber visited, Bridwell took him on the test pieces of the day and was astounded by his effortless mastery. On "Butterballs" Jim just laughed and shook his head when Hot Henry said, "Really great climbing, and it is so neat that the hard part is right at the top."
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