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Rattlesnake Arch

Social climber
Home is where we park it
Dec 1, 2018 - 04:31pm PT
Okay, these belong here.

Totally awesome......thanks for the post.
Scott Thelen

Trad climber
Truckee, Ca
Dec 1, 2018 - 04:40pm PT
So rad!!!
How do I get down lol
T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Jan 14, 2019 - 11:46pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Jan 15, 2019 - 07:27am PT
Effin' wow! I almost wanted to cry watching him pull all those tough pitches. Just astounding. Thanks, Sula for your comments.

Re. "greatest ever" on El Cap: It should be noted that Yuji did virtually the same kind of performance years ago--almost flashed the whole thing but for a couple of falls. These kids are just too good.

BAd
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jan 15, 2019 - 09:32am PT
No much attention for something that ranks as probably the greatest climbing performance ever on El Cap.

You did mean by a human? Not AI(or AH).
Tork

climber
Yosemite
Jan 15, 2019 - 02:01pm PT
I disagree, All those folks amazed the sh#t out of me but I never said "no way". I had to eat my words with Ondra. I mean Tommy is such a bad ass and has so much Elcap under his belt and how long did it take him??? Then Ondra just walks up to the base and does it. Most impressive to me.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jan 15, 2019 - 08:26pm PT
Drove from SF Bay to LA this afternoon, and listened to a fun recent interview with Adam Ondra on Enormocast.
Touque

Trad climber
Santacruzcalif
Jan 17, 2019 - 12:14pm PT
I think he will pull every climb he tries he's got some special climbing skills go get adam
Milkman_photos

Trad climber
California, San Francisco
Jan 18, 2019 - 07:36am PT
He didn't send the salathe (any variation), he jugged out on the cameraman's fixed lines after a couple headwall tries, cause it was "getting dark".
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jan 18, 2019 - 11:48am PT
If you look at Adam Ondra's body, seems to have a larger amount of tissue devoted to ligaments and tendons, compared to most people.
nah000

climber
now/here
Jan 18, 2019 - 03:49pm PT
Naitch wrote: [Ondra] so far hasn't displayed the vision that Caldwell and Honnold have IMHO.

huh...

 first and only claimed 15d rp; to date unrepeated
 first 15c rp; and with the first three of the four 15c's currently in existence all being ondra first ascents and with, to date, only one of his three being repeated by a single climber
 over 1500 redpoints and onsights of routes graded 13b or harder
 basically first and arguably the only person to consolidate the 5.15 grade by climbing over 60 [or a little over half of all] of the 5.15a's or harder that are currently in existence
 first and to date only 15a flash
 second 14d os
 about 20 on sights of 14c or harder, including the mystique-surrounded just do it
 and then just for kicks a 20ish day redpoint of the hardest long rock route currently in existence... a route that many of the yocal digerati prophesied wouldnt get a repeat for five or ten or twenty years...
 along with all of the rest of the more mundane things he's done... including [as Alexey mentioned below] eating up basically every rock climbing style for breakfast and so on sighting everything from 5.13 dean potter desert testpieces to runout 5.13 polished yos slabs along with all of the usual limestone sport routes in between...



due to the combination of the above i'd argue that the last climber, before ondra, who, on a global stage, was as visionary in terms of how far they pushed the bar out ahead of the time they climbed in [while also consolidating the bleeding edge left by previous climbers]...

was gullich.

and then before gullich i'd argue you'd have to go back to gill.

and before gill i'd argue you'd probably have to go all of the way back to oliver perry-smith... [although that one becomes a bit harder to have a super strong opinion on]



so... less vision, than caldwell or honnold?

while ondra's vision might be one that many people have had and so in that way it might be easy to consider it "less visionary", i'd argue exactly the opposite:

just about every climber who has ever pushed themselves to the edges of their potential has likely dreamt, relative to their time, of doing even half of what ondra has done...

yet, almost nobody, in a 100+ yr history has brought the perfect storm to the technical rock climbing table that ondra has.



having a vision is easy, sometimes even boring.

executing a vision on the other hand?

imesho, in the history of our game it has been very, very, very, very, very rare and with regards to pure rock climbing difficulty i'd argue that there have only been three to maybe at most five other climbers throughout our history who have pushed things as far as ondra already has, relative to their times...

and so in the process been as visionary.



cheers though, always good to have an excuse to throw down a h.o.... ha!
Alexey

climber
San Jose, CA
Jan 18, 2019 - 05:03pm PT
good summary nah000! last coffin nail in " Valley Syndrome" lol . And he is only 25 years old! and he is willing to climb absolutely different stile of climbing
T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Feb 2, 2019 - 11:20pm PT
The latest vid --- from Chile [Click to View YouTube Video]
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 3, 2019 - 01:12am PT
It is after all an all ADAM thread.
But
I left it for days,
thinking : it can't just be me, can it?

No one else pointed out the glaring omissions in Nahooo's tally

(Pushing 3 grades beyond the norm of the day?! For their respective times and the eras?)


The "H's" alone were glaring!

Lynn Hill

Hot Henry!

Hidetaka - yeah you didn't need to use his last name
that skinny piece of gristle Suzuki!

Hugh Herr

Yuji Hirayama
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that said

I'd venture to mention It;
to try to list them all is impossible.

I keep adding a list then taking it back out of this post




Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Feb 3, 2019 - 05:59am PT
While watching Ondra's IGMAKed video, it struck me that his successes in the Valley were like Henry Barber's: walk to the base, climb to the top, rave about the climbing, compliment the locals, go somewhere else...repeat.

The first time Henry Barber visited, Bridwell took him on the test pieces of the day and was astounded by his effortless mastery. On "Butterballs" Jim just laughed and shook his head when Hot Henry said, "Really great climbing, and it is so neat that the hard part is right at the top."
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