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Studly

Trad climber
WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 11, 2016 - 09:17am PT
https://www.sott.net/article/330743-Bought-and-paid-for-California-judge-gives-Nestle-free-pass-to-keep-stealing-water-from-drought-stricken-national-forest
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Oct 11, 2016 - 10:16am PT
Of course. And it doesn't help that our water rights laws are 18th century AND our politicians are not good managers of one of our state's essential resources.

Fack Nestle and bottled (1 liter and smaller) water in general
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Oct 11, 2016 - 11:00am PT
Nothing else in California is as OUTRAGEOUS as the pensions and lifetime health insurance paid to state, county and city workers. (except maybe prop 13)
For instance,
the average pension of now retiring CHP officers is up to at least $115,000
plus lifetime health insurance.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/28/california-pensions-how-a-deal-went-wrong-and-cost-taxpayers-billions/

(Should say trillions if it were fully accurate on the whole story)
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 11, 2016 - 11:36am PT
^

Thank Gray Davis.

2016 est. cost CA taxpayers 5.4 billion$
couchmaster

climber
Oct 11, 2016 - 01:36pm PT

Straighten up and get in line and bow down to the mega corporations or: NO CHOCOLATE BARS FOR YOU!!!


pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Oct 11, 2016 - 01:58pm PT
Eco-mental cases abound.
Fuk the center for biological diversity and anything it promotes.
A bunch of lying pseudo hippy lawyers getting rich under the guise of protecting the environment.
Water is a renewable resource in case you forgot.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 11, 2016 - 07:40pm PT
Like this compares to the many years that Nestlé pushed poor African women to buy baby formula (instead of breast feeding) on the fallacious premise it was 'better' for their babies?
WBraun

climber
Oct 11, 2016 - 07:55pm PT
Thanks WTF very much .....
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Oct 14, 2016 - 12:48am PT
"So as a state worker myself who pays into a pension and who pays his own health insurance which has only gotten more expense and with less coverage and higher co pays and higher deductibles I say to you.
F*#k off. "
"+1,
Word! "

Spoken like truely entitled leeches.
Did you fail to ever hear the state RETROACTIVELY increased pensions PERMANENTLY in 2001 by 50% ? And then most cities & counties jumped on the gravytrain bandwagon and increased theirs?
The foxes guarding the henhouse proclaimed that the fund investments would always go up by as much as they did in the best years of the late 90s.
Did you attempt to read the article?
Do you not understand English?
or math?
or willfully ignorant?

How can you work for that system, which gives CHP a pension worth MILLIONS of dollars PER EMPLOYEE, and not be aware of how outrageous it is?

It is a simple fact that in Kali, most state/county/city workers are given Exhorbitant retirement benefits, far beyond what they paid in and far beyond what even good private companies pay.

What part of these facts did you miss, and why?
--Separately, the state pays for lifetime health insurance for retirees who worked at least 20 years. -Do you think other people get this giveaway?

--For those CHP who retired after 1999, the average pension was $96,270.
(This comes to about $115,000 for retirees in 2016)
The average retirement age for CHP officers is 54. Someone that age without a pension who wanted to buy an annuity to generate the same income for life would have to pay more than $2.6 million, according to Fidelity Investments. (This comes to more $3.1 million for retirees in 2016)"

More reading for you if you were still unable to comprehend the scope of this rip-off.
http://www.pe.com/articles/public-782630-california-pension.html
$241 BILLION unfunded as of 2014, likely $300 Billion now, plus another $150 Billion in unfunded retirement Health Benefits as of 3 yrs ago.
https://bythenumbers.sco.ca.gov/Retirement-Systems/Defined-Benefit-Systems-12-year-UAAL-Trend/6v84-2bv3
http://uscommonsense.org/research/surveying-californias-unfunded-retiree-healthcare-obligations/
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pension-crisis-davis-deal/
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/editorials/sdut-san-diego-deja-vu-pension-blues-2016sep10-story.html
http://californiapolicycenter.org/the-devastating-impact-of-retroactive-pension-increases-in-california/
http://californiapolicycenter.org/county-pension-burdens-vary-widely/
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogfeb11/public-pensions2-11.html

http://www.publicceo.com/2014/01/sonoma-countys-pension-crisis-analysis-and-recommendations/
http://californiapolicycenter.org/analyzing-sonoma-countys-pension-crisis/

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-controller-pension-website-20141114-story.html

DO I expect any of this to change?
NO, not as long as ignorant voters keep electing public employee fake "union" stooges. (Note- in a real union, the employees are battling a capitalist employer. In a public employee fake "union", the managers get the same benefits as the employees so they All favor increases, and no one protects the taxpayers.)
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2016 - 02:23pm PT
Its not just the US, The Canadians are loving selling off their water supply to Nestle.

http://yournewswire.com/nestle-swoops-in-outbids-canadian-town-for-control-of-local-water/

zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 18, 2016 - 07:34pm PT
My mom was in CalPERS, she didn't see anything like these post revolution benefits.

Must have been born under a bad sign.

My uncle and his son were cops in Detroit, likewise, nothing like what CHP get for twenty years of driving around in an air-conditioned automobile and they actually worked for a living and were in real danger.

CHP gets more than this guy and he was a star.





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