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pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Oct 12, 2016 - 07:03pm PT
Reintroduce polio as well.
Makes about as much sense.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 12, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
The ideal introduction ground would have been the RNC.

Sigh...opportunity lost.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Oct 12, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
ST could use some grizzer bears.

I'd be into it for Cali if they'd be introduced in the strip-mall, suburban hell, whitebread kinda spots mentioned above. But only if they were armored and furnished with lasers, high-potency cannabis, etc.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 12, 2016 - 07:20pm PT
Pardon me, but I'm still laughing at this ridiculous cause.

The height of folly, totally ludicrous, it serves no one.

Boondoggle is written all over it.

Grizzlies doing what they like best.

Eyore, beware.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 12, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
it serves no one.

False assumption - it serves whoever is pushing it. Lemme guess - the Center For Biological Perversity. Or maybe PETA.

There ain't no free lunch!
dirtbag

climber
Oct 12, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
Grizzlies?

Kalifornia?

Rokjox would sign it.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Oct 12, 2016 - 07:55pm PT
Probably the only place it would work is up in the Trinity Alps and Marbles. Maybe the Middle Eel Wilderness?? Modoc NF?? It would definitely spice things up for the illicit pot farmers!! No way in the Sierra.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Oct 12, 2016 - 08:14pm PT
This must be the greatest troll pulled off on Stupor Turgid, or as Werner would say--Stupid Americans!!!
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 12, 2016 - 08:25pm PT
GREAT IDEA WHAT NEXT MAKE A COUPLE VELOCIRAPTORS AND LET THEM LOOSE IN PRESCHOOLS????







BUILD THAT WALL!
BUILD THAT WALL!
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 12, 2016 - 09:48pm PT
pud, pud, pud!

Re your thought that reintroducing Polio would be better than Grizzlies.

You said:
Reintroduce polio as well.
Makes about as much sense.

That's just sick & negative on your part.

Polio killed & crippled many people.

However, when we, or as happened in Idaho, the U.S. Fish & Wildlife folks, reintroduce wolves (in your case Grizzlies (&/or wolves) to the Sierra, it will make for a much more aware & alert & in the long-run, more appreciative Sierra visitor base.

Folks will be appreciative, because they haven't been mauled or killed during their Sierra experience, just like those of us in East Idaho, NW Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, & Canada enjoy our Grizzly hikes & climbs.

And the U.S. Fish & Wildlife management folks will be very grateful for this expansion of their careers.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Oct 12, 2016 - 09:51pm PT
Fritz...All it takes to get malled in Mammoth is a 3 foot dump and the weekend warriors go shopping...
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 12, 2016 - 09:53pm PT
RJ? But what about the Mammoth assault rifle maulings?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Oct 12, 2016 - 09:55pm PT
Heard it was hit...? Poor guy left a wife and 2 kids behind...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 12, 2016 - 09:59pm PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 12, 2016 - 11:40pm PT
Best I can do for ya, Sprock.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Oct 13, 2016 - 07:15am PT
For the little time I've spent in the Sierra's I'm wondering what the park service thinks will support the caloric needs of 1,000+ pound bruins in that landscape...

Doesn't seem particularly lush to me. Anywhere.

Once they exhaust the obvious food sources arriving by bus with the puffy red faces and big bellies there's nothing else. Am I wrong? Garden of eden somewhere in the Sierra?
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Oct 13, 2016 - 07:43am PT
^^^In my neck of the woods in SoYo we do have free-range cattle and Hmong weed farmers. I suppose they count as food of a sort.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 13, 2016 - 08:12am PT
Well, it boils down to who runs faster, the cows or the Hmong?
The Hmong prolly climb trees better.

My best friend in Anchorage, when a cow moose thought he had longings for her calf,
found he was able to climb a tree better than he expected while wearing XC skis.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Oct 13, 2016 - 08:52am PT
Some problems with the idea. The habitat is now fragmented and is not as rich in natural food sources as it was when the CA griz thrived. They'd have to work a lot harder to eat. And a griz in a poor habitat tends to be a lot crankier than a well-fed one - witness the difference between coastal salmon-fed griz and the smaller inland ones.

There's a helluva lot more potential for human/bear reactions and conflicts now. And the griz is a lot more formidable camp raider than the already competent blacks. As well as being more likely to launch a defensive attack when you unexpectedly encounter one.

Also, hard to say exactly what the effects would be on existing fauna and flora. Will they dig out marmots, ground squirrels? What plants and roots will they dig out in the meadows? What wildlife will they affect?

And there are the inevitable conflicts with neighbouring agricultural activities, and they can really trash an unoccupied building - more thoroughly than a black. And there are the management problems.

Lots of questions that don't have good answers. Of course, it would probably reduce the number of people running the trails - which maybe wouldn't be a bad thing!
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Oct 13, 2016 - 09:28am PT
I say give them SUP's and reintroduce them to San Diego first.
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