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Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 21, 2016 - 07:04pm PT
University of Tennessee was throwing this in the dump! The museum didn't want it for lack of provenance. I got an F-350 and the largest trailer I could find and put it in my barn.

The canoe is 22.5 feet long, 31-32 inches at the beam. I am now searching on provenance. I am thinking South America or Asia.

Any thoughts?


Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 21, 2016 - 07:05pm PT
Excellent save!

What type of wood is it?
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 21, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
I am working with UT to determine that. But if the wood is from outside the states they may not be able to say much.
-Q-ball
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 21, 2016 - 07:12pm PT
It's from The Heart of Darkness. Good score!
The museum didn't care enough to tell you? Lame!
jonnyrig

climber
Sep 21, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
Doesn't count until you employ it to launch a deep-water solo FA.
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 21, 2016 - 08:00pm PT
Jonnyrig,
If you stop by to help move the canoe from the barn to the river! I got some unclimbed bluffs! It ain't very deep.
-Q-ball
jonnyrig

climber
Sep 21, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
Hmm... tempting. Where again are you?
Ah crap... other side o' the country. Next time, I guess...
All the same, pretty damn neat. Although, fyi- I put a set of wheels under my old aluminum Montgomery Ward unit. The toddlers like riding IN it on the way to the shoreline. YMMV
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 21, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
Jonnyrig,
Awesome boat! I need to make that contraption to save my back. Looks like the young 'uns are ready to float!

-Q-ball
JohnnyG

climber
Sep 22, 2016 - 06:05am PT
Provenance...could it be from the u.s.? did any native people here use that type of canoe (I'm in birch bark canoe territory, so I don't know about the south)
chill

climber
The fat part of the bell-curve
Sep 22, 2016 - 06:38am PT
native people

We call them "internet-challenged" now.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Sep 22, 2016 - 06:50am PT
In the second picture you're seeing the stern-correct?

The flat space on top is for standing and poling.
Space up front and center is for the goods + passengers.

At least from my experiences that is what I see.
The type is not really an unusual one.
Knowing the wood type is a big key to where it's from and who used it.

Cool you snagged it!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Sep 22, 2016 - 08:53am PT
Check out this USFS lab:

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/research/centers/woodanatomy/wood_idfactsheet.php
John M

climber
Sep 22, 2016 - 10:11am PT
why not North american?

dugout canoes or pirogues were used in Louisiana. Cyprus was the wood used. I believe.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 22, 2016 - 10:20am PT
why not North american?

You trolling? I'd like to see you maneuver that dugout through some bayou. :-)
John M

climber
Sep 22, 2016 - 10:25am PT
It is pretty long. haha..

My aunt pearl use to take us kids out in a pirogue in the Louisiana bayous. She would stand up pole it. I don't remember much about it. My dad says he grew up poling one. Not a dugout.



My parents in Venezuela

Not a dugout obviously. Just a sunday afternoon outing.

Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2016 - 03:46pm PT
I will be going to UT to have the wood analyzed. They are good with USA trees but not sure about foreign ones. Just happy it is safe now.

I was thinking from over seas or far south of USA because of the design. It resembles the eastern Honduras canoes I am very familiar with but is a bit more refined. I talked with the curator of a museum in Florida that has many Indigenous/Seminole Dugouts. She was not familiar with the design.

Delhi Dog, I measured all the dimensions and it is symmetrical with no obvious bow or stern. Both ends appear to have a slightly carved seat for comfort. No keel either.

Thanks for the thoughts! Q-ball
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Sep 23, 2016 - 04:20am PT
I will be going to UT to have the wood analyzed.
Hopefully that will help, keep us posted
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 27, 2016 - 12:03pm PT
U. Tenn. just called and said they need a bigger sample to ID the wood. One end of the boat is damaged, and the researcher said the sample will not be destroyed... so I guess I will take a loose hunk off the back of the boat! Then fit it back.

If it is tropical hardwood they will send it to colleagues with expertise in that area.

-Q-ball
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 3, 2016 - 07:34pm PT
I just dropped off a 5 pound hunk of wood from the damaged end of the dugout. The expert was thrilled and want's to send it to a colleague that is better with tropical hardwoods.

They will make a small cut and return the piece so I can put it back into the canoe.

edit- Dingus, I was thinking teak also, but who knows. It had been displayed outside for many years and the wood is obviously very rot resistant (like teak with very close grains and light).
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 3, 2016 - 09:26pm PT
I got a hun that says it isn't teak. That stuff is nasty to work with and
fairly heavy. Besides, teak doesn't grow in S America which is where
that rig is from. :-)
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