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altieboo
Social climber
Das Blase
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 31, 2016 - 08:34am PT
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Hadn't seen this posted here yet - it's making its rounds on social media.
Details from the GoFundMe site:
Early on Sunday, August 21, Kyle Dempster and Scott Adamson started up the North Face of the Ogre 2, just off the Choktoi Glacier in northern Pakistan. They planned on five days for the climb and descent. .On Monday evening, their Pakistani cook, Ghafoor Abdul, spotted their headlamps roughly halfway up the peak. The weather remained good until Tuesday afteroon (8/23/16), when a storm moved in. Snowfall and cloudy conditions have persisted in the region since then.
Kyle and Scott have not been seen since Monday, August 22, no surprise given the complexity and scale of the terrain and the vagaries of the weather. On Sunday, August 28, family and friends initiated a search and rescue effort, assisted by local authorities and another climbing team on the Choktoi.
Please help these boys. Death is eminent if we cannot help. With the initiation of the Search and Resuce we have also been required to transfer money for the helicopter rescue and porters on foot in search of Scott and Kyle. With the unreliable weather we are needing more money everyday. Please consider the urgency of this situation and how thankful we are for your help.
Help spread the word!
GoFundMe link: https://www.gofundme.com/2mjv38k
Secondary call to action if you can help more specifically: if you have contacts and/or resources that may be helpful, please contact Jonathan Thesenga, Jonathan.Thesenga@bdel.com.
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Aug 31, 2016 - 08:45am PT
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Just posted it up on the home page of mountain project dot com.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Aug 31, 2016 - 08:49am PT
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Ugh, what a rough place to be missing, and that's a long time.
My thoughts are with the families, friends, and rescuers, who will now be taking risks of their own.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 31, 2016 - 08:52am PT
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hey there say, altieboo... oh my... :O
thanks for the information, so folks can pray, and
know what is going on, with the friends and family...
prayers that all goes well...
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Aug 31, 2016 - 09:05am PT
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I went to one of Kyle's slide shows. Seems like an ok guy. Hoping for the best for he, and Scott.
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altieboo
Social climber
Das Blase
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2016 - 09:19am PT
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Just heard from Nathan Smith over at Liberty Mtn. that the Latok 1 crew (Donini, Lowe, Englebach, Huber's) are helping to coordinate the search from base camp.
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Aug 31, 2016 - 09:54am PT
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Thanks for keeping us posted, ALton. Hope this turns out well.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Aug 31, 2016 - 10:00am PT
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Serious men in a serious place. Best of luck and strength to all involved.
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altieboo
Social climber
Das Blase
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2016 - 10:13am PT
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No prob Gilroy - Not that I have any breaking info, just reposting what I'm seeing online and such.
According to the GFM page, there is a team of High Altitude Porters on their way to the other side of Ogre 2 where a possible secondary descent route may have been taken. They said its currently night there and they are hoping for an update in the morning.
Sounds like the weather hasn't let up and has held another team back from moving up the standard descent route. Helicopters have yet to be cleared for flight.
Again, this is all secondhand, I have no insider info. Just relaying it onto here.
These dudes are effing tough and Scott's personal mantra is NWS or, No Weak Sh#t, So, if there is anyone that could be sitting in a snow cave laughing hysterically about their situation it would be these two.
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Matt's
climber
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Aug 31, 2016 - 10:45am PT
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bump
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Aug 31, 2016 - 12:28pm PT
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Bump. Cmon supertopians buck up some$$ to help these folks
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Grippa
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Aug 31, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
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Donation bump. Nearing the goal quickly. Anything helps!
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Aug 31, 2016 - 02:15pm PT
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What makes you sure they want folks begging for donations online to fund their rescue?
I would not want that if I were in their situation.
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yosguns
climber
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Aug 31, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
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pud, that is a good point, but even if you didn't want the donations yourself and you were prepared to accept the consequences of bad weather or an accident in the mountains, you might reconsider when you realized how the donations could help your friends and family, especially if they were impoverishing themselves carrying out a SAR effort. My donation was just as much for the benefit of the loved ones as for Scott and Kyle. I would want the community to do the same for my loved ones if I were in a similar situation.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Aug 31, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
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Yosguns,
I personally would accept the consequences but, as you eloquently point out, I would want my loved ones to feel that everything possible was done to help.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Aug 31, 2016 - 03:34pm PT
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Crazy to see this. Bump for donations.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:16pm PT
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combined those two are a formidable team, i have man-crushes on both of them.
the amount raised will go a long way towards both of them and the swarm of locals and westerners rolling out the action. theres quite a few lives on the line as HAPs, heli crews and others get involved, some from communities well known for giving their lives for such causes.
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Slabby D
Trad climber
B'ham WA
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:26pm PT
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What sort of high altitude rescue services actually exist in Pakistan? Is a 100k purchasing a couple fly bys? Or does extraction capability actually exist? I hope these two guys really are just weathering a storm and will be able to retreat when conditions improve because it's hard to imagine anything truly useful could be done on their behalf. Insight anyone?
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:39pm PT
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in that area theres a huge military presence (war in kashmir) so bases all up the baltoro and heli access to surrounding glaciers.
helis come from the army, with an agreement for expeditions to use. they regularly do evacuations, but on mountain actual rescue alps/nepal style is much less doable.
for humans, the community of HAPs (high altitude porters) is well established, with many coming from Hunza as well as the Baltis.
re foreign potential, its peak season so there will be numerous serous climbers around lending a hand, as usually happens, coming down from camps for other peaks. this will include sherpas, and at this time people like Moro, Zangrelli etc may be out there who have real experience with this.
in a way this is not uncommon, and out there not special. every season usually has this sort of thing, and the process is established. the govt takes it quite seriously.
weather of course is the defining element and helis wont go and things will slow on the glacier (its still a week on foot from the nearest road - a terrible road too). but in the past theres been remarkable acts of heroism by all those groups to get people down.
edit: you also have groups like Global Rescue who do regular evacs from out there, providing an international interface.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:57pm PT
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^^^^^ Yes, they DO NOT do 'rescues'. They bring you home, one way or another.
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