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Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Sep 29, 2017 - 08:25am PT
Ain't it great how all the white folk get so, uppity, when a Black Man with money speaks out against racism...df

Edit, See what I mean? Classic case, loser. . .ha! Loser deleted, can't even stand behind his words. . .
EdBannister

Mountain climber
13,000 feet
Sep 29, 2017 - 08:51am PT
Hmmm, how many of you think the workplace is the place to protest? The NFL turned down the request to honor fallen police officers in Texas, because it was political, why is this ok when that was not? oh wait, not a level playing field?


The Duck nailed it.. true.. and when he spells incorrectly it is on purpose.

and Mr. Bear, to a leftist results do not count, only accusations...

just a few fun facts:

Black population at the start and finish of Obama's 2 terms.
Lower rate of home ownership.
Lower employment rate.
Lower net worth.

and, if you check lifestyle among black population, where it is the worst i.e. black on black murder, unemployment, etc. those are all cities run by the left, for the last 50 years.. but no dots connected.

meanwhile i no longer watch or listen, to the NFL.. i do not work for an organization the hires felons, or Michael Vick after conviction, or endorses disrespect for the country.. yes still imperfect. yes prosecute convict, and i say execute any cop who kills anyone who is not a threat. but an unarmed black man is more likely to be hit by lightning, by a factor of two, than he is to be killed by a cop.

For those who require no documentation when it is an accusation of collusion, 300 people per year are killed in the USA by lightning strikes. Black population is ten percent so the likelihood is about 30 black victims. 2014 is the most recent FBI statistic year available, 16 unarmed blacks were killed by police, including those who posed a threat. So if you are black, you are twice as likely to be struck by lightning and killed, as you are to be killed by a cop when you have no weapon. all round numbers mind you, no 23.7 with implied accuracy of plus or minus one half of 1%.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Sep 29, 2017 - 10:06am PT
So Ed, you're saying that African Americans should [edit: not] be concerned about being murdered by a police officer during a routine traffic stop because it's more likely statistically that they'll be killed by lightening?

Also, remember the old Shakespeare quote, "the devil can quote Scripture for his purpose"?, any Republican can find a soundbite from an African American and rely on that as the left's failure to improve the lot of African Americans. That doesn't eliminate the reality that the right not only failed, but failed to even attempt to improve black communities. Also, the economics references by Ed are likely true as to all Americans. Home ownership has slipped out of reach for all Americans. Wages have lowered for all Americans, etc., etc. Convenient how Ed failed to apply those statistics to the other 87% of the population.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Sep 29, 2017 - 07:34pm PT
Ed Bannister...Repubs want more over-population for cheap labor to appease their corporate owners...The Repubs are the ones cutting planned parenthood and sex education acting all holy and spiritual....The pious Repubs are the ones telling the poor to f*#k off when they need help eating and paying rent ... In my book Ryan and McConnell and any of the other hypocrite millionaire republicans that use Jesus as a calling card should be prosecuted for fraud and imprisoned...
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 4, 2017 - 05:14pm PT
Well I watched the Anthems for both MLB wildcard games and no one on either team sat or kneeled in protest, what gives?

Is MLB classier than the NFL?

Does MLB have a code of conduct rule that prohibits acts of protest that
the NFL does not?

What gives,
discuss...
frostback

Social climber
great white north
Oct 4, 2017 - 05:50pm PT
Great to see the sycophants of donald have joined in 22 feet from stardom to defend the tweats of last week. No doubt these same sirens of solipsism would have been on the front lines of John Rockefeller's ludlow massacre shrieking about how politics, ie unionism, did not belong in the workplace.
The duck is right, punters the lot of yea....
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Oct 4, 2017 - 06:10pm PT
Ed Bannister...Repubs want more over-population for cheap labor to appease their corporate owners...The Repubs are the ones cutting planned parenthood and sex education acting all holy and spiritual....The pious Repubs are the ones telling the poor to f*#k off when they need help eating and paying rent ... In my book Ryan and McConnell and any of the other hypocrite millionaire republicans that use Jesus as a calling card should be prosecuted for fraud and imprisoned...


Well said rj.


Well I watched the Anthems for both MLB wildcard games and no one on either team sat or kneeled in protest, what gives?

Is MLB classier than the NFL?

Thought you were better than this, Tad.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 4, 2017 - 06:58pm PT
^^^
Sorry to disappoint you 10b.

Personally I believe,
showing respect for the flag and anthem should be based on the freedoms and rights we enjoy as citizens that our forefathers fought, defended and died for.
Not a platform for protesting the many problems we have in our society.

Just my opinion and I'm sticking to it,
I appreciate and understand yours.

Peace!
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 4, 2017 - 09:30pm PT
I'm reminded of the old saying, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel". Justice Brennan, when discussing a flag burning case said that while one should respect the flag, he wouldn't wrap himself in it. People didn't die for the flag or the anthem. They died for what they stand for. If an African American rightfully wonders whether he or she will survive a routine traffic stop by a white cop, you have to wonder what the flag represents to them.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Oct 4, 2017 - 10:08pm PT
They died for what they stand for.

And that is why I stand,
to recognize the sacrifice they made.

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
Wilds of New Mexico
Oct 5, 2017 - 08:11am PT
Half the people at pro games are buying beer or pissing in a urinal during the anthem. Why is that ok but taking a knee to make an actual point is wrong? I don't care either way, It's just a song and a piece of fabric. The creepy jingoism and fake patriotism associated with it is weird-- I'd sit through it if I didn't think some cretin would beat me up.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Oct 5, 2017 - 08:15am PT
Did Kapernick ever get a job?

DMT
Mike Honcho

Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
Oct 5, 2017 - 08:38am PT
Did Kapernick ever get a job?

Nope, he's fully unemployed right now. Look folks, all this is about ratings, which have been and are down with the NFL. You can go on and on about patriotism and all that but the reason Kapernick is unemployed is because of how unpopular with fans he is.

Ratings are down, he's unemployed. It does seem like he's the fall guy for all this though. He's a way better quarterback than many starters right now.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Oct 5, 2017 - 10:19am PT
And that is why I stand,
to recognize the sacrifice they made.
Tad, I totally respect your decision. I stand (and sing along) when they play the Anthem at the Hollywood Bowl. You gotta do what works for you. However, I also agree ontheedge that many others (including those probably criticizing Kaepernick) are equally, if not more, disrespectful. In Kansas City, they scream 'home of the..."Chiefs!" instead of "brave". People run to the head or buy snacks, talk, etc., etc. Lots of disrespect to go around. Not that Kaepernick is even disrespecting the Anthem. He's just using it to make a conscious statement.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Oct 5, 2017 - 11:21am PT
Maybe Kapernic can get a gig doing nude photos of NFL stars pretending to play football, make em all artsy and sh#t. It may not pay him much but it will do wonders for his sanctimony.

DMT
Jody

climber
Occupied Territory
Nov 2, 2017 - 04:05pm PT
Ratings down and advertiser's pulling ads due to the protests.

One example: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2741923-papa-johns-pulls-nfl-associated-ads-citing-negative-consumer-sentiment

Crapernick's whole premise, that black men are routinely killed by police for no reason is flawed and just not true. In 2016, 16 unarmed black men were killed by police and the year before, 36(According to the Washington Post). This includes justified killings of unarmed suspects. Some of these shootings were by black officers.

Not exactly an epidemic...hope to see you on a street corner dancing with a pizza sign soon Colin. Nice career move...
xCon

Social climber
909
Nov 2, 2017 - 04:53pm PT
ratings were down long before kaepernick
and we already knew to avoid papa johns

is there a list of these other companies courting the racist consumer?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Nov 2, 2017 - 04:56pm PT
DMT... Nude NFL stars... ? That's pretty f*#ked up sh#t dude...! Film them playing in womens' lingerie...
dirtbag

climber
Nov 2, 2017 - 04:57pm PT
Yes, the Trump Organization.
sween345

climber
back east
Nov 2, 2017 - 06:37pm PT



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