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Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 29, 2016 - 08:43pm PT
jstan predicted the financial meltdown,

if he is right about this i declare him to be the new jeezus,
jstan

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2016 - 09:22pm PT
if he is right about this i declare him to be the new jeezus,

What's the "new" all about?
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Aug 29, 2016 - 09:25pm PT
briham89

Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
Aug 29, 2016 - 09:25pm PT
Wild stuff
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 29, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
"Working out the strength of the signal, the researchers say that if it came from an isotropic beacon, it would be of a power possible only for a Kardashev Type II civilisation.

A level II Kim Kardashian civilization scares the hell out of me!
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Aug 29, 2016 - 09:33pm PT
I'll wait for a second party confirmation before I get excited. But I'm pleased that they didn't rush a premature "OMGLOOKWHATWEFOUND" press release.
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Aug 29, 2016 - 09:37pm PT
The heck with your Kardashev scale - this is America in 2016 where what matters is the Kardashian Scale.

Once those Aliens get a gander at this earthly booty there will be no stopping those randy little bastards from streaming our way.

Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Aug 29, 2016 - 10:24pm PT
The message was actually a question in English with the answer in a mysterious alien script.

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 30, 2016 - 12:38am PT
http://www.seti.org/seti-institute/a-seti-signal
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Aug 30, 2016 - 01:35am PT
I'm confused.

A super intelligent alien race uses a bandwidth two hundred times broader than we do for tv?

I thought the intelligent thing to do was compress data into small bandwidths so you can send more data.

What do they have, one tv station? We had that in the thirties.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 30, 2016 - 02:49am PT
jack nickelson was right after all,

or the putinator is trying a war of the worlds prank just to stir sh#t up,

either way, this happened 94 years ago so hopefully their planet exploded making us once again king of the universe,
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Aug 30, 2016 - 06:24am PT
I'm confused.

A super intelligent alien race uses a bandwidth two hundred times broader than we do for tv?

I thought the intelligent thing to do was compress data into small bandwidths so you can send more data.

What do they have, one tv station? We had that in the thirties.

Their cell phones are probably huge and have been used to club others of their race to death in road rage incidents.
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Aug 30, 2016 - 08:14am PT
A superior race of beings with superior technology...what could possibly go wrong?
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Aug 30, 2016 - 08:47am PT
either way, this happened 94 years ago so hopefully their planet exploded making us once again king of the universe,

Alternatively, they are finding out that 94 years ago today the Phillies got 46 hits in a double header.

And now I know as much about 1922 as a super intelligent alien race.
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Aug 30, 2016 - 08:52am PT
I imagine they've taken the theory of topological vector spaces way beyond Grothendieck's work.
bchains

Trad climber
Bay Area, CA
Aug 30, 2016 - 09:31am PT
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Aug 30, 2016 - 09:43am PT
Klimmer would know, Lorenzo.

Oh, G_d...
jstan

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2016 - 06:18pm PT
http://www.space.com/33904-seti-mystery-signal-wow-alien-message-debate.html

Another article on the signal. I suspect the chance this is an important event is close to nil. It is interesting however and it should stimulate us to think about what is involved.

The very first possible radio emission from earth came about 1880 so were that an actual emission the wave can only have travelled about 140 light years. Were there a reply it could not have come from a distance greater than 70 light years, unless the physics involved here violates our current understanding.

As our technology improves and provided we do not destroy ourselves before we get an answer, the SETI will probably remain a popularly interesting question. Over the next several hundred years we might expect events, potentially all of them due to natural processes, to gradually increase in frequency of occurrence.

It will be a damn shame if we have been too undisciplined and have gone before there is an answer.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Aug 30, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
The very first possible radio emission from earth came about 1880 so were that an actual emission the wave can only have travelled about 140 light years. Were there a reply it could not have come from a distance greater than 70 light years, unless the physics involved here violates our current understanding.


Ok,

our transmissions into space that superior Aliens will hear first are Mickey Mouse, Amos and Andy, I Love Lucy, ( LuCY!!! Jou got some 'splainin to do!!), and now include Donald Trump.

If they didn't with Lucy, Trump is going to make them turn their receivers elsewhere.

( no intelligent life there....nope, no way).
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Aug 30, 2016 - 09:21pm PT
Hi John - this is an interesting signal, but as you have inferred, it is not likely from an alien society.

Frank Drake was a member of the faculty here at Santa Cruz for a number of years and after leaving has been the principal force behind SETI. He is a really wonderful fellow. Very smart and quite charismatic. Seth Shostak who is quoted in some of these articles is also a great guy. Smart, funny and a good spokesman for the program. Strangely enough, the other fellow quoted in one of the articles above, Nick Suntzeff is also a longtime friend and colleague.

20 years ago, SETI was not really mentioned in polite scientific circles although many of us secretly were happy those guys and gals were doing the radio search, then the optical (lasers) search. When it started to be clear that planets were very common in the Galaxy (probably there are billions of planets), SETI started to be taken much more seriously. When I was the Director of the UC Observatories, I directed funding and telescope time to the efforts that are based at Lick Observatory. The discovery of intelligent life on another planet in the Galaxy would be the most important discovery in the history of science and humankind.

But, this particular signal is interesting, but very energetic. As HFCS summarized above, if this is a signal sent out in all directions from the source (isotropic), the strength at the Earth would imply a civilization that had managed to harness the entire energy output of its parent star (Type II). The other option for intelligent life is that they have beamed the energy of the signal directly at our Solar System. Hard to understand how we would have been picked out for that attention. The explanation that this is a background source temporarily boosted in signal strength by gravitational focusing is plausible and testable.

Collecting a bunch of additional data at different wavelengths and times will be the way to sort this out and those activities are underway,

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