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Aaron Johnson
climber
Bear Valley, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 29, 2016 - 08:19am PT
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Any recent reports on the bees or wasps at Lake Lake? I'm planning to visit over Labor Day Weekend, camp on a sailboat and climb at 90ft. Wall.
Thanks!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 29, 2016 - 08:51am PT
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Go visit the North Slope of Alaska in June or July - you will gain a new perspective on bugs. :-)
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Aug 29, 2016 - 09:07am PT
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Tahoe is filthy with meat bees this year.
Last Monday I saw 3 people at 90' Wall get bit by meat bees.
Beware..
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Alpamayo
Trad climber
Davis, CA
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Aug 29, 2016 - 09:19am PT
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Lots of bees at the Leap this weekend, and they loved my yellow shoes!
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:09am PT
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A meat bee is not a bee at all, but a wasp from either the Vespula or Dolichovespula genus. Meat bees are also known as “yellowjackets,” especially in the United States. Outside North America, they are more commonly referred to as “wasps.” Humans and yellowjackets often have contentious relationships, because these wasps can be quite aggressive about defending their territory.
The term “meat bee” is a reference to the fact that these wasps feed primarily on other insects. In fact, they can be quite beneficial as neighbors, since they eat an assortment of insect pests. They will also scavenge if they find meat lying around, as many picnickers have learned. In the fall, when the wasps need to store up energy, they may also scavenge on sweet drinks and fruit for the sugar.
One of my most memorable onsights was some otherwise non-memorable 5.11 on the east side of Big Chief. Not because of the route but because the whole time, the yellowjackets were landing on me as I was climbing. I was freaking out but managed not to let go and jump off. Oddly, I have never been bothered by them on the west side of Big Chief, only on the east side.
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PolishClimber
Trad climber
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:29am PT
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I second the yellow jacket issue at the leap. Hanging around camp they were mostly fine, but when I fired up the stove to cook a few eggs they went crazy. Probably 15-20 swarming around at least. They don't go after you necessarily, but I was stung once when one of them got caught between my fingers as I brushed them aside from my breakfast. That might give you an idea of how numerous they are when cooking something with protein.
They did not bother me at all while climbing...
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jonnyrig
climber
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:34am PT
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Rampant meat bees at Sugarpine Point, just north of 90 ft wall this weekend.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:36am PT
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3 bites in the mouth while boating near West Shore last week.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:49am PT
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geeze flip-flop, taking it like a trooper
when I fired up the stove to cook a few eggs they went crazy. Probably 15-20 swarming around at least. They don't go after you necessarily, but I was stung once when one of them got caught between my fingers as I brushed them aside from my breakfast.
the exact same thing happened to me (stove, eggs, breakfast, 15-20, sting on finger) 2 weeks ago camping in eastern Washington
I'd say expect to be stung if you're out, especially at mealtime
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:56am PT
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Arse daggers are numerous near everywhere this year it seems.
Had one fly INTO my shorts and nail me near the yarbles a couple weeks ago.
Would NOT want that to happen while leading as it's damn near impossible not to start dancing and flailing!
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:57am PT
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I had a friend who lived in South Lake, he'd put out beer bottles with a little chunk of meat gristle and the bottle would end up like 1/3 full of meat bees. Then he'd pour a tablespoon of gas in it and light them up.
A couple years ago they made a nice home in a perfect jam on one of the climbs at Big Chief. Made the climb a bit more challenging.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Aug 29, 2016 - 02:12pm PT
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They clean all the dead bugs out of your grill and radiator after the drive...
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Aug 29, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
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Agree.
They are a bit of a pain right now. At the Leap yesterday and also around the BBQ in Auburn....
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Aug 29, 2016 - 08:17pm PT
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My brother,my daughter and I made this totem to appease them at our family camp on the N.fork of the Stanislaus this summer. Today my partner and I had some minor issues with them at 6000 ft.
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Byran
climber
Half Dome Village
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Aug 29, 2016 - 08:45pm PT
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On a sort of related note, does anyone know what species of wasp inhabits Yosemite Valley? I've heard people refer to them as "meat bees" "yellowjackets" and "paper wasps" interchangeably. Yellowjackets and "meat bees" are the common names for Vespula germanica, while paper wasps are Polistes dominula. I can't figure it out from just reading the wikipedia pages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespula_germanica
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polistes_dominula
Anyone know? Maybe we have both of them?
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John M
climber
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Aug 29, 2016 - 09:13pm PT
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Bryan, We have both..
this one..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespula_germanica
the yellow jacket or meat bee, is the aggressive one. They get aggressive around food. They build large nests in hollows in trees and in the ground. If you kill one they put out a sent that attracts others wasps. I stepped on a large nest in the ground as I was clearing brush. It was 3 feet across and about 2 feet deep. I knew immediately what it was and took off running. They followed me for 100 yards and it was only when I got in a vehicle that I got away from them. I was stung about 20 times.
the meat bee body is shorter and wider (.5 inches ) then the paper wasp ( up to an inch). The meat bee eats everything, and will take bites out of you or take bits out of your steak. The paper wasp tends to fly slower and languidly unless aggravated.
I found this on the web. It is a meat bee nest dug out of the ground.
The other one is a paper wasp and they build hanging nests, often under the eves of houses. They eat insects and are mostly not aggressive unless you mess with the nest. Their nest are usually pretty small, a few inches across, but can get big.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Aug 29, 2016 - 09:22pm PT
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the paper wasps have the long, dangling hind legs as well.
I watched one chase and capture a moth the other day. Epic 5 minute battle.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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The Wasp
The wasp is quite ubiquitous,
His sting is most iniquitous,
He stores his tanks of venom
Just abaft his duodenum.
Injects it with a spiculum
Behind his diverticulum.
The wasp invades your picnic bdasket -
Permission? He just doesn't ask it.
His air offensive is so strong
There's no way to resist it long.
How learned the wasp this strategy?
It's recently come clear to me.
To bees and ants he owes no thanks -
Methinks he learned it from the Yanks.
WM
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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A friend of a friend planned on camping at Emerald Bay last week, but the family left within a couple hours of arrival because of the bees. The state parks staff didn't have any problem refunding their money either because the bees are so bad.
My buddy in Tahoma also reports aggressive bees in big numbers.
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CathC
Social climber
Wyoming
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I was stung 5 times on my hand and 3 ankle stings, a few weeks ago near Homewood.
I must have disturbed the ground nest. Very aggressive !
Watch out, carry an epi pen if you have one.
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