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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Aug 25, 2016 - 07:12pm PT
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Because we have a vested interest in avoiding the recruitment of more ISIS terrorists.
Other than that false premise...
Curt
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 25, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
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“The climate is extremely tense in the region,” Francois Pinatel, a lawyer for Villeneuve-Loubet, told the court. He said the municipal order was a necessary preventive measure. “If things are going fine now, it’s because this order was passed,” he added.
Patrice Spinosi—a lawyer for the Human Rights League, one of the groups that filed the appeal—said there had been no trouble stemming from Islamic dress on the town’s beaches before or after the ban. The language of the ban, he said, could apply to a priest’s vestments or a nun’s habit.
Holy sheeit!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 26, 2016 - 07:53am PT
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Anyone get credit for time served. I wonder how long the suspension is for?
Mayors do not have the right to ban burkinis, France's highest administrative court ruled Friday.
The Council of State's ruling suspends a ban in the town of Villeneuve-Loubet, near Nice, and could affect cities around the country that have prohibited the full-length swimsuit.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 26, 2016 - 08:08am PT
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Y'all are sawing away like a bunch of Neros while France burns. Why do you think those
people in les banlieues are so pissed off? It ain't burkinis, bros, it's the lack of jobs. That
twit Hollande was all happy the other day cause the 'official' UE rate fell below 10 % for
the first time in umpteen years. Of course the actual rate is over 12% because the bolshies
don't count people who have given up looking. 1 out of 8 French citoyens don't have jobs!*
And after my recent visit I would say that the country would be better off if half the waiters
there joined the dole rolls - they might as well, they don't do anything in their restaurants
except dispense attitude.
*Of course, in les banlieues the UE rate is at least 25%.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 26, 2016 - 09:00am PT
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Back On topic, what do waiters wear in France?
I'll be doggone.
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Al Barkamps
Social climber
Red Stick
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Aug 26, 2016 - 11:23am PT
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It ain't burkinis, bros, it's the lack of jobs. That twit Hollande was all happy the other day cause the 'official' UE rate fell below 10 % for the first time in umpteen years. Of course the actual rate is over 12% because the bolshies don't count people who have given up looking.
They're always free to find work in Germany, who apparently, would have gladly welcomed them with employment. One of the perks of being in the EU was unimpeded cross-border movement for work and such. The muslim community preferred to stay home and stew, however. Not so the Syrians, though.
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deschamps
Gym climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Aug 26, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
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First off, the French don't guarantee the same rights that Americans do. They don't make any claim to and it is a bit self-centered to think the American approach should be universally adopted by all.
Bingo. Well said.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 27, 2016 - 08:59am PT
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The French clothing law is specifically a ban on full face covering in public, right?
Women expecting to wear a veil at their wedding ceremony better be prepared to wear cuffs!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 27, 2016 - 02:05pm PT
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The burkini ban is an act of a socially conscious, morally courageous and responsible government with extreme prudence and futuristic foresight.
Now, if we could only prevent nuns from wearing their habits in public to protect us from extremist, seventh-century beliefs that demean women.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Aug 27, 2016 - 04:15pm PT
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France is not the USA.
The French have a long tradition that embraces secularism, and any practice (like wearing a burkini) is a complete slap in the face to the French way of life.
Frankly, I am siding with the French. They are saying, "Your religious fervor is not welcome here."
Viva La France!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 27, 2016 - 08:53pm PT
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France is not the USA.
The French have a long tradition that embraces secularism, and any practice (like wearing a burkini) is a complete slap in the face to the French way of life.
Frankly, I am siding with the French. They are saying, "Your religious fervor is not welcome here."
Viva La France!
Well, we know what comes next. Those DAMN JEWS with their little hats that is a COMPLETE SLAP in the face to the French way of life!
It is one thing when a society makes a choice, but it is another, completely, when the gov't of that society chooses which religions it permits freedom of expression. When that happens, it is not secular, it has now chosen the national religion.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 27, 2016 - 08:59pm PT
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The French are easily offended. Very insecure people. It would be amusing if it was not so pathetic.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 27, 2016 - 09:45pm PT
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^^^^^^ Another patently condescending and ignorant declaration by someone
who hasn't a clue about France.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Aug 28, 2016 - 07:35am PT
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Well, we know what comes next. Those DAMN JEWS with their little hats that is a COMPLETE SLAP in the face to the French way of life!
Perhaps - but only if the Jews were constantly committing acts of terrorism across Europe and France in the name of their religion, like the Muslims are doing.
If that were the case, then I would support France if they told the Jews that "Your religious fervor is not welcome here."
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Al Barkamps
Social climber
Red Stick
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Aug 28, 2016 - 08:31am PT
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The French are easily offended. Very insecure people. It would be amusing if it was not so pathetic. You talk a lot of smack living in a country stolen by genocide and built on the backs of slaves.
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YvesD
Mountain climber
Paris (France)
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Aug 28, 2016 - 08:43am PT
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I am not that surprised by the cliches poured on this Forum although I had not been accustomed to that while I was working (10 years) in the US. I had always thought -- as climber mysefl-- climbers were not ready to provide the world with such weak press-like arguments ... Try hard and maybe you will understand what is going on in Europe but I could give you so many anecdotes about your inability to understand ... and remember that most of the troubles we have are not only coming from European history but also from what happened in Afghanistan et Irak, ana ask yourself why ... and how ...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 28, 2016 - 08:52am PT
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France has a big problem on their hands because of their immigration policies. So does Sweden, England, Germany, Italy, and the rest of Europe.
The immigrants not only don't want to assimilate, but they want to make parts of Europe their own. Culturally.
France is trying to quell this with their Burka ban, and now the burkini ban on beaches. But it's too late, they've let things get out of control. And now they appear to be mean and intolerant.
When if France...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 28, 2016 - 09:00am PT
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In light of all the recent events I was amazed by how few police and Army were at the son et
lumiere spectacle at Strasbourg cathedral last week. I trust there were more there than we saw.
While the ingress routes were well organized and policed I have to say the egress routes
were not and were a serious liability. I was also amazed by the lack of police at the gare -
not one in the big new glass foyer!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Aug 28, 2016 - 09:04am PT
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Thank you for your comments Yves
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